Player Discussion Dakota Joshua | Shut up and give him his money!

[rypper]

Isnt the draft this summer the 23-24 draft or am I having a brain bork?

It's the 2024 draft, at the end of the 23/24 season. We're going in without a 1st, 2nd, and 5th round pick.

 

[Bankerguy]

i like Joshua but not at the cost of a mass overpay. let toronto do that.

if he was 23, then yes, you 1000% need to keep him and if its a slight overpay, that's okay.
But the guy is 30. lightly used...but still 30.

based on the updated information coming out i think the leafs or some other club might give him money in the range of high 3's or mid 4's

also, in real life, the guy is a cheap @SS. this is a 'take my word for it' type comment but i know for a fact he is a super cheapskate.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

i like Joshua but not at the cost of a mass overpay. let toronto do that.

if he was 23, then yes, you 1000% need to keep him and if its a slight overpay, that's okay.
But the guy is 30. lightly used...but still 30.

based on the updated information coming out i think the leafs or some other club might give him money in the range of high 3's or mid 4's

also, in real life, the guy is a cheap @SS. this is a 'take my word for it' type comment but i know for a fact he is a super cheapskate.

You can't just drop a juicy nugget like that and not give us any deets

 

[Nucker101]

You can't just drop a juicy nugget like that and not give us any deets

Probs didn’t tip enough at a restaurant and ate during happy hour

 

[Petey O]

i like Joshua but not at the cost of a mass overpay. let toronto do that.

if he was 23, then yes, you 1000% need to keep him and if its a slight overpay, that's okay.
But the guy is 30. lightly used...but still 30.

based on the updated information coming out i think the leafs or some other club might give him money in the range of high 3's or mid 4's

also, in real life, the guy is a cheap @SS. this is a 'take my word for it' type comment but i know for a fact he is a super cheapskate.

I'll take a team of cheapskates, thieves and brigands if it means a cup.

 

[F A N]

i like Joshua but not at the cost of a mass overpay. let toronto do that.

if he was 23, then yes, you 1000% need to keep him and if its a slight overpay, that's okay.
But the guy is 30. lightly used...but still 30.

He turned 28 last month.

based on the updated information coming out i think the leafs or some other club might give him money in the range of high 3's or mid 4's

Depending on term, somewhere between $3.5M to $4M is pretty reasonable. We were rumoured to have been interested in Jordan Greenway who makes $3M. Marcus Foligno makes $4M. Engvall makes $3M on a long term deal.

also, in real life, the guy is a cheap @SS. this is a 'take my word for it' type comment but i know for a fact he is a super cheapskate.

Ok... and? What's wrong with being a cheapskate? I mean you thought the guy was 30 and he probably has made less than $3M before tax in his career. It's a lot compared to the average joe but good for him if he's careful with his money.

Probs didn’t tip enough at a restaurant and ate during happy hour

Ya and the expectations of some servers are ridiculous these days. Like if you're a celebrity you are expected to tip 100% or leave a $100-$500 tip.

 

[MarkMM]

Considering some of the stories on the other end of the spectrum I'd respect him if he was a role model for fiscal responsibility.

 

[Jyrki]

Let me guess, the stories are about Joshua not tipping like people believe a celebrity "should"?

 

[Bgav]

i like Joshua but not at the cost of a mass overpay. let toronto do that.

if he was 23, then yes, you 1000% need to keep him and if its a slight overpay, that's okay.
But the guy is 30. lightly used...but still 30.

based on the updated information coming out i think the leafs or some other club might give him money in the range of high 3's or mid 4's

also, in real life, the guy is a cheap @SS. this is a 'take my word for it' type comment but i know for a fact he is a super cheapskate.

Why would any of us care if he's a cheapskate? lol

 

[F A N]

Considering some of the stories on the other end of the spectrum I'd respect him if he was a role model for fiscal responsibility.

Yep and Joshua even said this about Garland: "He’s been in the league a while and has the good setup with a beautiful home and me trying to aspire to get there."

 

[credulous]

joshua's career earnings are probably only really like ~400k usd after taxes, agents and escrow. i know that sounds like a lot but considering he's been doing this professionally for five years (or nearly a decade if you count ncaa) that's not really much. he's not exactly balling out

 

[Ita]

joshua's career earnings are probably only really like ~400k usd after taxes, agents and escrow. i know that sounds like a lot but considering he's been doing this professionally for five years (or nearly a decade if you count ncaa) that's not really much. he's not exactly balling out

His career earning is $1.6M. He’s pocketing more than 25% after taxes, fees and deductions..

 

[Nuckles]

joshua's career earnings are probably only really like ~400k usd after taxes, agents and escrow. i know that sounds like a lot but considering he's been doing this professionally for five years (or nearly a decade if you count ncaa) that's not really much. he's not exactly balling out

Capfriendly has it estimated to be $1,580,491 pre-taxes/agents/etc.

Using their income tax calculator to get a very rough idea of what it is after that, it would be around 735k USD

Edit: whoops, doesn't account for the money he made this season. Total would probably be around $1.0-1.15 mil after tax/fees/etc

 

[credulous]

Capfriendly has it estimated to be $1,580,491 pre-taxes/agents/etc.

Using their income tax calculator to get a very rough idea of what it is after that, it would be around 735k USD

escrow is like 18%, agents fees 3-5%. so maybe 550-600k total. still not living large

 

[Nuckles]

escrow is like 18%, agents fees 3-5%. so maybe 550-600k total. still not living large

From what I've read escrow was 6% this year and maybe last year as well, and he made almost all his money in that time.

But ultimately yeah, he hasn't made nearly as much as longer-term established NHLers. So I don't blame him in the slightest for looking for the biggest payout he can get, since this could very well be his last NHL contract.

 

[theguardianII]

From what I've read escrow was 6% this year and maybe last year as well, and he made almost all his money in that time.

But ultimately yeah, he hasn't made nearly as much as longer-term established NHLers.

The esgrow debt is supposed to be paid off. 1+ billion for teams to split.
The NHL announces next years cap soon don't they? So far all I can find are comments, no NHL releases about it, estimates and such.

Joshua should get a bump but not a crazy one. Maybe triple his cap hit for 2 years just to see if this is a one off.

He also gets playoff money which for him might be more than his contract.

 

[rea]

The esgrow debt is supposed to be paid off. 1+ billion for teams to split.
The NHL announces next years cap soon don't they? So far all I can find are comments, no NHL releases about it, estimates and such.

Joshua should get a bump but not a crazy one. Maybe triple his cap hit for 2 years just to see if this is a one off.

He also gets playoff money which for him might be more than his contract.

Don't think nhlers make money in playoffs.

 

[F A N]

Capfriendly has it estimated to be $1,580,491 pre-taxes/agents/etc.

Using their income tax calculator to get a very rough idea of what it is after that, it would be around 735k USD

That total can’t be up to date. The Canucks’ contract alone is $1.65M pre…

 

[Nuckles]

That total can’t be up to date. The Canucks’ contract alone is $1.65M pre…

Oh yep, good catch

 

[Cancuks]

Trade for Beck Malenstyn or Alexsey Toropchenko to replace Joshua. Also maybe sign Radim Zohorna as a UFA as a 13th forward/AHL callup as I see him having some upside given the right opportunity.

 

[Nopefully]

From what I've read escrow was 6% this year and maybe last year as well, and he made almost all his money in that time.

But ultimately yeah, he hasn't made nearly as much as longer-term established NHLers. So I don't blame him in the slightest for looking for the biggest payout he can get, since this could very well be his last NHL contract.

Not to mention our ludicrous costs of living in Vancouver. This sounds funny to say but $1 Milly isn't a lot of money in Canada.

 

[Nick Lang]

Why would any of us care if he's a cheapskate? lol

says @Bankerguy

 

[Ita]

Capfriendly has it estimated to be $1,580,491 pre-taxes/agents/etc.

Using their income tax calculator to get a very rough idea of what it is after that, it would be around 735k USD

Edit: whoops, doesn't account for the money he made this season. Total would probably be around $1.0-1.15 mil after tax/fees/etc

He paid less taxes than that because his income was quite low early in his career, so his effective tax rates in those years are significantly lower.

 

[ManVanFan]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799893852582498308

Someone going to pay for him and watch him turn into Tanner Jeannot.

I'd like him but not paying a guy that just shot 5% over his average. Bottom 6 and PK guy. That's what he was.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799893852582498308

Someone going to pay for him and watch him turn into Tanner Jeannot.

I'd like him but not paying a guy that just shot 5% over his average. Bottom 6 and PK guy. That's what he was.

I think he’s still finding his upside, but if he’s looking to cash in, we are going to have to do what Allvin said - find the next Dakota Joshua, rather than paying through the nose for Dakota himself.

I don’t want him to go, but if he indeed is chasing a bag of cash, we may have to let him.