D David Reinbacher - EHC Kloten, NL (2023, 5th, MTL)

[Realgud]

Sneaky rise to top 5?

Wouldn't surprise me

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Sneaky rise to top 5?

depends on the team drafting at 5 but yes i do think he goes after the big 4 around 5/6/7

Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Michkov
Benson
Reinbacher
Smith

 

[Colezuki]

Sneaky rise to top 5?

I think everywhere I've been reading is that there's the top 4 and then another group between 5 and 12, some also have a second group between 5-6 and then 7-12, but it sounds like he's in the 7-12 group with the potential to fall into 5-6 if a team loves him

 

[Realgud]

I think everywhere I've been reading is that there's the top 4 and then another group between 5 and 12, some also have a second group between 5-6 and then 7-12, but it sounds like he's in the 7-12 group with the potential to fall into 5-6 if a team loves him

It's possible he goes top 4 imo. Michkov and the Russia situation, Benson's size, team's preference for drafting RD... it's possible. I don't expect Michkov to go out of the top 4 (would be a mistake in my eyes) but you never know...

 

[Lavar Ball]

It really depends on what happens with the lottery, but I think 7 is a likely spot for him

 

[RefsIdeas]

If he's considered the best D in the draft - found it interesting to note the last time the first defenseman was taken outside of the top 10 was 1983! In 1999 the first defenseman was taken right at the 10 spot. Those hoping he slips to the mid-teens might be disappointed.

 

[Colezuki]

It's possible he goes top 4 imo. Michkov and the Russia situation, Benson's size, team's preference for drafting RD... it's possible. I don't expect Michkov to go out of the top 4 (would be a mistake in my eyes) but you never know...

Yeah very fair, once we get to the draft teams always reach on the D, could see Montreal try and grab him if there in that 5-6 range and then pickup whosever left at F with there florida pick

 

[Mrb1p]

If he's considered the best D in the draft - found it interesting to note the last time the first defenseman was taken outside of the top 10 was 1983! In 1999 the first defenseman was taken right at the 10 spot. Those hoping he slips to the mid-teens might be disappointed.

He is not falling outside of the top 10. I have him at 5 right now. He was somewhat unknown from the season start because of where he played, but he's a known quality now. He is just flat out great. Compares to Jiricek, Nemec, Mintyukov, Hughes and Edvinsson.

 

[majormajor]

It does seem like there's a good chance that Vancouver or Montreal will scoop him up in the top ten.

 

[LuckyBoeser]

It does seem like there's a good chance that Vancouver or Montreal will scoop him up in the top ten.

Finger crossed for Vancouver

 

[RationalExpectations]

Finger crossed for Vancouver

Yep. Could finally build properly from the backend

 

[wetcoast]

It really depends on what happens with the lottery, but I think 7 is a likely spot for him

This is part of the reason why I think

If he's considered the best D in the draft - found it interesting to note the last time the first defenseman was taken outside of the top 10 was 1983! In 1999 the first defenseman was taken right at the 10 spot. Those hoping he slips to the mid-teens might be disappointed.

Also the RHD thing is kind of like lefty pitchers in baseball the scarcity maybe inflates their value a bit.

I really like his game and his floor is extremely high, there is a decent NHLer here but his ultimate upside probably isn't top 20 in this draft but of course not all those will meet expectations either.

 

[Kcoyote3]

Nice goal today.

 

[BCNate]

I think most have the top 4, followed by Smith and Benson. Most years have an unexpected pick, and a Dman climbs into the mix as well. I don't doubt that Reinbacher could get taken very high.

In terms of a prospect, how does he compare to recent top 10 D's : Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski, Power, L Hughes, Edvinsson, Clarke, Sanderson, Drysdale?

I'm hoping he is like Edvinsson just because he is big and could go higher than most expect.

 

[UrbanImpact]

I think most have the top 4, followed by Smith and Benson. Most years have an unexpected pick, and a Dman climbs into the mix as well. I don't doubt that Reinbacher could get taken very high.

In terms of a prospect, how does he compare to recent top 10 D's : Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski, Power, L Hughes, Edvinsson, Clarke, Sanderson, Drysdale?

I'm hoping he is like Edvinsson just because he is big and could go higher than most expect.

Id compare him to Seider, especially in terms of where he will be actually drafted.
Seider i believe was projected to go in the 15-20th spot.

Interesting enough, they actually have a lot of similarities in their game

 

[GermanSpitfire]

I think most have the top 4, followed by Smith and Benson. Most years have an unexpected pick, and a Dman climbs into the mix as well. I don't doubt that Reinbacher could get taken very high.

In terms of a prospect, how does he compare to recent top 10 D's : Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski, Power, L Hughes, Edvinsson, Clarke, Sanderson, Drysdale?

I'm hoping he is like Edvinsson just because he is big and could go higher than most expect.

I think I’d have him below Nemec, Jiricek, Power, Hughes, Sanderaon and Drysdale but above Clarke, Korchinski and Edvinsson.

 

[majormajor]

In terms of a prospect, how does he compare to recent top 10 D's : Nemec, Jiricek, Korchinski, Power, L Hughes, Edvinsson, Clarke, Sanderson, Drysdale?

I'm hoping he is like Edvinsson just because he is big and could go higher than most expect.

I personally would have had him in between Nemec and Jiricek: Jiricek > Reinbacher > Nemec. I can't remember how I ranked all of those D in their drafts though I definitely was higher on Power, Edvinsson, and Sanderson. And it seems like Reinbacher is a better safer pick than Korchinski and Clarke.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Power > Sanderson > Jiricek > Seider > Reinbacher > Nemec > Drysdale > Edvinsson > Clarke > L. Hughes > Korchinski

This is factoring in draft year and D+1. D+2 would be unreasonable to extrapolate for the younger guys above so not factored in.

Obviously thus far, Seider is far ahead terms of NHL success being 2-3 years older.

 

[mistaclick]

I would be very surprised if he is not the first dman off the board. If you value upside then you could maybe make the argument that Gulyayev should go first, but ASP isn’t even close to Reinbacher, he can’t defend. Simashev is OK, looks safe but I can’t justify using a lottery pick on him, whereas I can with Reinbacher/Gulyayev.

But then again it’s almost like scouts haven’t even heard of this guy. Many rankings that don’t even include him in the first round, and when they do include him they are totally off base (#10 on Central Scouting EU? Behind the two Finns, Stenberg, ASP?). Of course this is my own opinion and biased, but am I alone in thinking Reinbacher has been wildly underrated this whole season after what he’s been doing in NLA? Seems crazy to me what he’s done this year and nobody talks about him

 

[majormajor]

I would be very surprised if he is not the first dman off the board. If you value upside then you could maybe make the argument that Gulyayev should go first, but ASP isn’t even close to Reinbacher, he can’t defend. Simashev is OK, looks safe but I can’t justify using a lottery pick on him, whereas I can with Reinbacher/Gulyayev.

But then again it’s almost like scouts haven’t even heard of this guy. Many rankings that don’t even include him in the first round, and when they do include him they are totally off base (#10 on Central Scouting EU? Behind the two Finns, Stenberg, ASP?). Of course this is my own opinion and biased, but am I alone in thinking Reinbacher has been wildly underrated this whole season after what he’s been doing in NLA? Seems crazy to me what he’s done this year and nobody talks about him

Yeah I'm still trying to find out why some folks have ASP ahead of Reinbacher. I can't understand that.

 

[Hale The Villain]

He's a pretty safe bet to play in the NHL in some capacity but I don't see the offensive upside that a lot of people do, despite his impressive numbers.

His offensive skillset and tools are all decent but not high-end in any sense. Don't see a PP QB in him, and that's where most D rack up big point totals.

He's definitely not Moritz Seider. Could see him developing into a Larsson/Roy-type shutdown 2nd pairing D, which is a valuable player.

 

[malcb33]

I could certainly see him being a good fit for either Vancouver or Montreal.

 

[majormajor]

He's a pretty safe bet to play in the NHL in some capacity but I don't see the offensive upside that a lot of people do, despite his impressive numbers.

His offensive skillset and tools are all decent but not high-end in any sense. Don't see a PP QB in him, and that's where most D rack up big point totals.

He's definitely not Moritz Seider. Could see him developing into a Larsson/Roy-type shutdown 2nd pairing D, which is a valuable player.

Most clubs expect to have PPQB options. Think of Vancouver or Montreal. They'd get good value out of a Larsson/Roy type defender. And I don't think that is Reinbacher's ceiling. There are alot of things a D can do to provide value that would make them more valuable than that. Think of pushing play 5v5 like Weegar or shutting down like a Brodin or maybe Pelech. I don't know him well enough yet, but those are the attributes I'll be looking for when I watch Reinbacher.

 

[Colezuki]

I could certainly see him being a good fit for either Vancouver or Montreal.

GM was heading over to watch him play after the deadline, so definitely something to it

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Can‘t wait to see him play at the World Championship.