D David Reinbacher - EHC Kloten, NL (2023, 5th, MTL)

[Chainshot]

Seider part 2

I don't see the physical ignition that Seider had though. Not that Reinbacher is shy, but he's much more likely to pin a guy out than punish with a bodycheck. (Disclaimer - not a knock on Reinbacher at all, just not the style he plays with in the NLA games or the U20 games I've seen. Still a very good defenseman and should be in the conversation for 1st D taken in this upcoming draft.)

 

[RutherPlan]

The fact that so many people are praising him is because they secretly hope another team drafts him in the top 10. He's not a difference maker and those are the the type of players you should be targeting with a high draft pick.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

The fact that so many people are praising him is because they secretly hope another team drafts him in the top 10. He's not a difference maker and those are the the type of players you should be targeting with a high draft pick.

If you end up with a top-4 defender in the top-10 - you’re not really mad about that in my opinion. Look at Matt Dumba in 2012, do the Wild regret that pick? Definitely not, and he‘s nothing more than a top-4 guy through his career.

I personally think Reinbacher has top pairing upside in the future and I think he‘s a pretty safe bet to be a top-4, and relatively soon because the 2 years ye has spent playing against men on Switzerland.

 

[UrbanImpact]

The fact that so many people are praising him is because they secretly hope another team drafts him in the top 10. He's not a difference maker and those are the the type of players you should be targeting with a high draft pick.

I 100% see him as a difference maker.

His ceiling is really high and his physical tools are tantalizing.

He will probably play at around 6'3 - 210 lbs.

He skates well, he is physical, he has great puck skills.

If he hits his ceiling, i dont see why he wouldnt be considered a difference maker.

Its a coin flip for me between Benson , Smith, Reinbacher for the 5th spot.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

He’s gonna be around 8-10 I think for me. First defenseman off the board IMO.

That seems more like a prediction than an opinion.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

First defenseman off the board at the draft. Book it!

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

First defenseman off the board at the draft. Book it!

Bob's rankings are pretty out of date. I would guess very few still have Sandin as the top D in this class anymore, like he showed in his ranking last month.

 

[Chainshot]

If you end up with a top-4 defender in the top-10 - you’re not really mad about that in my opinion. Look at Matt Dumba in 2012, do the Wild regret that pick? Definitely not, and he‘s nothing more than a top-4 guy through his career.

I personally think Reinbacher has top pairing upside in the future and I think he‘s a pretty safe bet to be a top-4, and relatively soon because the 2 years ye has spent playing against men on Switzerland.

Looking at it for role, someone who can provide steady RD play for a dynamic LD partner on the top pair is so very much a skill that is hard to find and that makes it worth looking into.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Bob's rankings are pretty out of date. I would guess very few still have Sandin as the top D in this class anymore, like he showed in his ranking last month.

I would honestly be shocked if Sandin-Pelikka goes higher than Reinbacher. Whenever I've seen ASP I haven't come away as impressed as I hoped I would be. His game profiles like a #3/4 defender that plays sheltered minutes and mostly powerplays.

Reinbacher looks like a pretty safe bet to be at least a #3 guy in the NHL with #1 upside. Great skating, very good passing, decently physical, very smart in his own zone, and showing more confidence with the puck offensively lately. He will be a solid 2-way defender that can play all situations. I take a Pietrangelo over a Torey Krug or Tyson Barrie 10 times out of 10

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I take a Pietrangelo over a Torey Krug or Tyson Barrie 10 times out of 10

...and I take Shea Theodore over Brandon Montour, so the preference remains the same for either set of comparables

Personally, I like Simishev the best, but every time I see him I have a new comparable. Looks like he plays a bit differently in the KHL vs MHL, but always looks really good.

 

[Chainshot]

...and I take Shea Theodore over Brandon Montour, so the preference remains the same for either set of comparables

Personally, I like Simishev the best, but every time I see him I have a new comparable. Looks like he plays a bit differently in the KHL vs MHL, but always looks really good.

Simashev in the KHL is very focused on his own end and will not take any chances at all. MHL version, there is that moment where he'll take the ice available and look to be more involved offensively. As he grows, that MHL play should translate up as he becomes acclimatized to the pace of play and confident in his own tools. It's like watching Novikov with Dynamo as JUST a defensive guy at the KHL level and then he hops down to the MHL and dangles guys, only Simashev seems to have a better toolkit.

Edit- Reinbacher seems to be starting to understand he can do that at the NLA level. And with decent size and a good skating base, that's enticing.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

...and I take Shea Theodore over Brandon Montour, so the preference remains the same for either set of comparables

Personally, I like Simishev the best, but every time I see him I have a new comparable. Looks like he plays a bit differently in the KHL vs MHL, but always looks really good.

I'm just likening Reinbacher to a solid, responsible 2-way defender with good offensive chops. Those are the kinds of players that become the backbones of successful franchises. Guys like Krug and Barrie are specialists. You don't build around them.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I'm just likening Reinbacher to a solid, responsible 2-way defender with good offensive chops. Those are the kinds of players that become the backbones of successful franchises. Guys like Krug and Barrie are specialists. You don't build around them.

His only trait that really stands out is his transition ability, and I don't see many people calling those kind of players specialists. They're middle pairing guys who can look really good with the right situation, or just mediocre in other situations.

 

[Captain97]

hes my pick if we pick outside the top 5 Habs have a big need on the right

1-Bedard
2-Carlsson
3-Fantilli
4-Michkov
5-Smith
6-Reinbacher
7-Benson

This is my top 7 as well. I've been on the Habs for Reinbacher train for a while now

Edit: I have Fantilli and Carlsson flipped though

 

[UrbanImpact]

With the likely scenario that the Canucks are going to be picking somewhere in the range of 5-10th overall-

I dont see Reinbacher getting past them.

He just checks soo many boxes for the Canucks especially if they consider him BPA or in the tiers as the BPAs

- Right Shot Dman
- NHL ready in about 1-2 years which fits their " retool" timeline that management has set out.

If Reinbacher does drop a little bit, then the Canucks will also probably have NYI's 1st round pick which will be around 15th. They can take Reinbacher then.

Home-Run draft would be

1st.Bedard
15th. Reinbacher

I cant even let myself dream of it.

 

[Juxtaposer]

One assist through a period today so far. Nice outlet stretch pass to his teammates, who created a 2-on-1 and scored. Reinbacher will create a lot of offense in the NHL like Owen Power rather than by being overwhelmingly involved in the offensive zone.

 

[MNRube]

He’s this year’s Sanderson/Seider. A big D who plays a complete game who will continue to rise until draft day when amateurs will act like it’s a massive reach.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

This is a Quinn Hughes partner and a no brainer outside the top 5 for the Canucks unless Michkov falls. Simashev would be perfect with the Islanders pick as well and they would be the pieces needed to rebuild the defence. Both playing Hockey in a men’s league should make them NHL ready quicker.

 

[Captain97]

This is a Quinn Hughes partner and a no brainer outside the top 5 for the Canucks unless Michkov falls. Simashev would be perfect with the Islanders pick as well and they would be the pieces needed to rebuild the defence. Both playing Hockey in a men’s league should make them NHL ready quicker.

Thats why Habs fans want him too. Largely to play with Hutson who we are hoping to be our Hughes/Hughes lite.

So I agree the Nucks would make perfect sense.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

His only trait that really stands out is his transition ability, and I don't see many people calling those kind of players specialists. They're middle pairing guys who can look really good with the right situation, or just mediocre in other situations.

Are you talking about Reinbacher here? Transition ability as a standout skill for defensemen is one of THE MOST important to have.

Reinbacher defends well, competes all 200ft of ice and wins most of his battles, and can either use his skating ability or precise passing to transition up ice. That is a hallmark ability of pretty much every great NHL defender.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Are you talking about Reinbacher here? Transition ability as a standout skill for defensemen is one of THE MOST important to have.

Reinbacher defends well, competes all 200ft of ice and wins most of his battles, and can either use his skating ability or precise passing to transition up ice. That is a hallmark ability of pretty much every great NHL defender.

No, I thought it was obvious I was talking about the one you labeled a "specialist?" I don't consider ASP a specialist.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

No, I thought it was obvious I was talking about the one you labeled a "specialist?" I don't consider ASP a specialist.

Ooh, yeah. That guy. Nevermind.

 

[Ita]

Unless Canucks get a top 3 pick, this has them written all over.

Hughes and Reinbacher together would just be unfair.

Seems like a really bad idea to pass on Michkov and Smith if Canucks have the #4 pick.

How does Reinbacher compare to Dobson in the 2018 draft year? Did Dobson have a higher projected upside?

 

[Icebreakers]

Seems like a really bad idea to pass on Michkov and Smith if Canucks have the #4 pick.

How does Reinbacher compare to Dobson in the 2018 draft year? Did Dobson have a higher projected upside?

Dobson has the better shot and offensive awareness. Reinbacher wont pick up much points in the NHL with raw offensive skills. It will be mainly outlet passes and shot/rebounds imo.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Dobson has the better shot and offensive awareness. Reinbacher wont pick up much points in the NHL with raw offensive skills. It will be mainly outlet passes and shot/rebounds imo.

Wish Dobson showed a better shot and offensive awareness when playing the Habs. Was f***ing frustratingly stupid.. maybe the 8th 2 MPH shot on the ice will get through Savard who I haven't manipulated at all!