D David Reinbacher - EHC Kloten, NL (2023, 5th, MTL)

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I only know about a birth defect (or kind of, I forgot about the name of it) that impacted him as a kid but I don't think he had knee injuries pre draft. To my knowledge they all came after the draft and I don't think they're related to the birth defect (or whatever it is) either. This is not something the Canadiens could have anticipated at the draft. It's either just bad luck or one of his previous knee injuries wasn't treated or cured the right way.

Ah yeah. I think that's what it is. I actually have something similar.

Anyway, that's not a "knee injury" and not something that would necessarily lead other knee injuries either. So I don't think you can blame the Habs. They couldn't possibly have anticipated Reichenbacher's knee problems. It's most certainly just bad luck.

Like I said. I forgot exactly what it was he had. I only know that he did have knee problems based on some kind of a birth defect. He didn't have a knee injury pre draft though. At least not that I know of. I don't pretend to know everything about his life but I don't think there were any concerns about his knees at the draft. Whatsoever.

No worries. I only responded to a post accusing the Habs of drafting a player with a history of knee injuries. I believe there was some kind of a knee condition (you may very well be right about it not being Osgood Schlatter) but I don't think it was anything that could have caused those injuries he had post draft and I don't think he had any knee injuries pre draft either.

“Reinbacher suffered an MCL injury against Sweden in the second game, forcing him to miss three games.

He’s still dealing with a bit of pain nearly a full month later”



Get your facts straight next time before spouting off.

I’m 95% sure he had knee issues/injuries even before the one above; I’ll see what I can find.

The Habs didn’t do their due diligence, considering he’s worn braces on his knees since before the draft. It appears he didn’t take the required time off for it to heal 100%, or he may have opted against a surgery he should’ve got back then.

It was only a matter of time before this happened, which is why him getting injured on a nothing play makes sense. If you look, he actually injured himself on the zone entry prior to any contact - he drags his left foot, bending his knee at an extremely awkward angle as he enters the zone. The hit, which was to his right side, was coincidental, and he falls because he was already injured.

The injury likely occurred due to instability or muscle weakness due to the braces he wears and the fact that his knee never healed properly.

This is on Habs’ management.
 
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“Reinbacher suffered an MCL injury against Sweden in the second game, forcing him to miss three games.

He’s still dealing with a bit of pain nearly a full month later”



Get your facts straight next time before spouting off.

I’m 95% sure he had knee issues/injuries even before the one above; I’ll see what I can find.

The Habs didn’t do their due diligence, considering he’s worn braces on his knees since before the draft. It appears he didn’t take the required time off for it to heal 100%, or he may have opted against a surgery he should’ve got back then.

It was only a matter of time before this happened, which is why him getting injured on a nothing play makes sense. If you look, he actually injured himself on the zone entry prior to any contact - he drags his left foot, bending his knee at an extremely awkward angle as he enters the zone. The hit, which was to his right side, was coincidental, and he falls because he was already injured.

The injury likely occurred due to instability or muscle weakness due to the braces he wears and the fact that his knee never healed properly.

This is on Habs’ management.
Yeah, that was pre draft but it looked worse than it was. Reinbacher returned to action at the same tournament, only missed three games to do tests, make sure everything was okay.
 

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Yeah, that was pre draft but it looked worse than it was. Reinbacher returned to action at the same tournament, only missed three games to do tests, make sure everything was okay.
Yet, he was still dealing with pain over a month later, has worn braces on his knees ever since, and here we are two years later after he injured himself, same knee, on a zone entry. Hmm…
 

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My newly adjusted expectations for his potential:

Low: bust/Noah Juulsen

Mid: Josh Gorges

High: Patrice Brisebois
 

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Like I said. I forgot exactly what it was he had. I only know that he did have knee problems based on some kind of a birth defect. He didn't have a knee injury pre draft though. At least not that I know of. I don't pretend to know everything about his life but I don't think there were any concerns about his knees at the draft. Whatsoever.

At the very least he got hurt prior to the draft, it was a hit that hurt his knee, it looked spectacular, I'm pretty positive about this.
 

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My newly adjusted expectations for his potential:

Low: bust/Noah Juulsen

Mid: Josh Gorges

High: Patrice Brisebois
3 very very different players. glad to see some of us are cup half full.

But yeah, looking at top 5 picks its about a 25% chance of a complete bust for a dman over the past 20 years.
 

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3 very very different players. glad to see some of us are cup half full.

But yeah, looking at top 5 picks its about a 25% chance of a complete bust for a dman over the past 20 years.
Different indeed - Brisebois was essentially twice the dman the other two are combined. Also, the comparison was in terms of impact, not necessarily stylistically. Although, there isn’t much difference between Gorges and Juulsen stylistically at the NHL level, other than Gorges just being a tier above. At this point, I’d be absolutely ecstatic if Reinbacher panned out into something similar to Brisebois, but there’s honestly a decent chance he never makes it there.
 

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Different indeed - Brisebois was essentially twice the dman the other two are combined. Also, the comparison was in terms of impact, not necessarily stylistically. Although, there isn’t much difference between Gorges and Juulsen stylistically at the NHL level, other than Gorges just being a tier above. At this point, I’d be absolutely ecstatic if Reinbacher panned out into something similar to Brisebois, but there’s honestly a decent chance he never makes it there.
What was brisebois at his peak? Offensive second pairing guy on a contender? Georges probably great bottom pairing guy on a contender.
 

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What was brisebois at his peak? Offensive second pairing guy on a contender? Georges probably great bottom pairing guy on a contender.
He was essentially a solid #2 dman, a first/second pairing tweener - top pairing on most teams, probably 2nd pairing as the #3 on top contenders in terms of ability. He was a two-way D, proficient, but not elite at both ends of the ice with an all-around skill set, more of a puck mover on offense/neutral zone and more positional and stick work on defense. His game/tendencies leaned a little more toward offense. Good in transition. He was mobile and a good skater, but lacked physicality and a big shot. He was a 20+ minute per night dman for probably 15 of his 18 NHL seasons - career average ice time 21:44.

The problem was that the Habs used him like you would a legit stud #1 (~24+ minutes per game, matched against top lines) during the dark years (roughly 1998-99 to 2002-03), and he got burned a few times highlight reel fashion as a result, so people remember him being far worse than he was (the Breeze By nickname, etc). He did very well for what he was under the circumstances and with the players around him, imo.
 
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It looks like a nothing play. That would concern me more than the injury itself.
Sucks for Reinbacher and for the Habs because this felt like a hugely important season in his development after a pretty rough d+1.
 

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