D David Reinbacher - EHC Kloten, NL (2023, 5th, MTL)

[Nico Cauzuki]

the way the fans are roasting him he should just hold out and go back into the draft and go somewhere he will be appreciated

10/20 people does not speak for the millions of Habs fans plus 90% of the messages were positive social media will always be toxic take any story or pic and you will see some hate comments

 

[DinosaurBones]

He was my 3rd guy as a Habs fan but I wasnt unhappy with any of the guys I had in my top 5... People arent taking away the fact that Montreals D is so unbelievable set for the future and could very easily be the best in the league. And for a long time. We have weapons. We have an incredible D system, and assests to move.
Sure I wanted Michkov and I even wanted Leonard before. But I am in no way mad at what this pick brings to the Habs moving forward. It will be MASSIVE for the organization having this strong of a D core.

 

[stevo61]

He was my 3rd guy as a Habs fan but I wasnt unhappy with any of the guys I had in my top 5... People arent taking away the fact that Montreals D is so unbelievable set for the future and could very easily be the best in the league. And for a long time. We have weapons. We have an incredible D system, and assests to move.
Sure I wanted Michkov and I even wanted Leonard before. But I am in no way mad at what this pick brings to the Habs moving forward. It will be MASSIVE for the organization having this strong of a D core.

I think best D in the league is more than ambitious but they did have a major hole that Reinbacher fits perfectly into. Now they can have Reinbacher and Guhle as the stabilizing partner on 2 seperate pairs

 

[DinosaurBones]

I think best D in the league is more than ambitious but they did have a major hole that Reinbacher fits perfectly into. Now they can have Reinbacher and Guhle as the stabilizing partner on 2 seperate pairs

I was thinking 6 years from now, and mostly meant best depth and just the projectory it could take. It wasnt a bad pick to set this D up to potentially be a top tier core

 

[montreal]

 

[SlafCaufield]

Grant McCagg mentioned that he spoke with people that confirmed that Reinbacher's growth plates still have room to grow

its very realistic that he grows to 6'4 or 6'5

y'all laughed at me when I mentioned it earlier but there's the proof

 

[montreal]

 

[Fatass]

Grant McCagg mentioned that he spoke with people that confirmed that Reinbacher's growth plates still have room to grow

its very realistic that he grows to 6'4 or 6'5

y'all laughed at me when I mentioned it earlier but there's the proof

If Reinbacher is growing like that, how long before he catches up to that growth and is an nhl quality contributor? Three years? Five years?

 

[SlafCaufield]

a lot of people were punking this pick and saying that he isnt big enough to play the style he plays,,

well NHL scout Grant McCagg has some information for you



its very realistic that he will grow another 2-3 inches and put on a lot of weight,, when we have our Chris Pronger im sure no one is going to be worrying about missing out on a bad teammate like Michkov who allegedly has kicked teammates and doesnt listen to veteran leaders

 

[SlafCaufield]

If Reinbacher is growing like that, how long before he catches up to that growth and is an nhl quality contributor? Three years? Five years?

very likely after next season

he has to go back to switzerland to finish school and his job this year (he is very smart) and will likely be on a paring with Guhle the next year

 

[GermanSpitfire]

All speculation at this point. He’s already plenty big enough to have an impact very soon in the NHL.

In situations like this, don’t go into it expecting a kid to grow, seems like fools gold to me.

 

[stevo61]

a lot of people were punking this pick and saying that he isnt big enough to play the style he plays,,

well NHL scout Grant McCagg has some information for you



its very realistic that he will grow another 2-3 inches and put on a lot of weight,, when we have our Chris Pronger im sure no one is going to be worrying about missing out on a bad teammate like Michkov who allegedly has kicked teammates and doesnt listen to veteran leaders

Hes plenty big for a teenager but like Jiricek has to put on some mass to hold up for an NHL schedule if they want to be physical. Going from 6'2" to 6'3" means next to nothing

 

[sansabri]

growth plates? really...

 

[montreal]

 

[Frank Drebin]

growth plates? really...

I guess it's a thing

check growth plates - Google Suche

www.google.com

 

[LemonSauceD]

a lot of people were punking this pick and saying that he isnt big enough to play the style he plays,,

well NHL scout Grant McCagg has some information for you



its very realistic that he will grow another 2-3 inches and put on a lot of weight,, when we have our Chris Pronger im sure no one is going to be worrying about missing out on a bad teammate like Michkov who allegedly has kicked teammates and doesnt listen to veteran leaders

You’re joking right? Chris Pronger..

Reinbacher could grow to 6’6 and he still wouldn’t be even close to Pronger type of player. Completely different styled defenseman.

Reinbacher is more like an Adam Larsson or Brett Pesce.

 

[majormajor]

Reinbacher already has a lot of upside you can look into without diving into the pseudoscience of growth plates. He can be a great player at 6'3, doesn't need to be 6'5.

You’re joking right? Chris Pronger..

Reinbacher could grow to 6’6 and he still wouldn’t be even close to Pronger type of player. Completely different styled defenseman.

Reinbacher is more like an Adam Larsson or Brett Pesce.

He's a better passer and transition player than those guys. But definitely not like Pronger.

 

[Frank Drebin]

You’re joking right? Chris Pronger..

Reinbacher could grow to 6’6 and he still wouldn’t be even close to Pronger type of player. Completely different styled defenseman.

Reinbacher is more like an Adam Larsson or Brett Pesce.

The pronger comparisons are silly, but Larsson is one of the more disappointing picks as far as top defensemen in the draft are concerned.

Both Larsson and peace both peaked (so far) as 30 point, second pairing guys. What is it about reinbacher that you feel that's his ceiling, when he scored at a .5ppg pace during his draft year?

 

[Hinterland]

I think the best case scenario is a Roman Josi type of player. Reinbacher is modelling his game after Josi as well. Reinbacher is probably a bit more physical than Josi (though not even close from Pronger or even Seider) and he's a better passer, too. He'll never have Josi's skating though. Reinbacher is a great skater in his own right but Josi is the most amazing skater you can imagine for his size. I also doubt Reinbacher will ever be as confident on the puck as Josi but we'll see. There are differences but all in all they're fairly close stylewise and ceilingwise. Reinbacher just has to get there. So far so good.

 

[Intangir]

I think the best case scenario is a Roman Josi type of player. Reinbacher is modelling his game after Josi as well. Reinbacher is probably a bit more physical than Josi (though not even close from Pronger or even Seider) and he's a better passer, too. He'll never have Josi's skating though. Reinbacher is a great skater in his own right but Josi is the most amazing skater you can imagine for his size. I also doubt Reinbacher will ever be as confident on the puck as Josi but we'll see. There are differences but all in all they're fairly close stylewise and ceilingwise. Reinbacher just has to get there. So far so good.

Reinbacher might be saying he models his game after Josi's but if you look at both of them on the ice, their playstyle is actually quite different so I don't see the direct parallels there aside from nationality.

Put simply, Josi is a modern offensive defenseman that has ++ skating, poise, good puck-possession skills, is amazing in transition, as well as owns great offensive skill carrying the puck and holding the blueline on the powerplay. And although Josi is far from a slouch defensively, he is also not anywhere near a shutdown defenseman.

Reinbacher on the other hand, is much more defense-first than Josi, slower, less skilled, less adept of a shooter, and much more raw in his puck carries, meaning that his offensive potential is much lesser than Josi's. Reinbacher's decisions with the puck, although fast and reasonably mistake-free, are also not nearly as creative offensively.

But Reinbacher is also a LOT better defensively, has better core stength, much tighter gap control, understands angles, positioning and passing lanes a lot better in his own zone, fares much better against the cycle, is a better battler for the puck along the boards or in front of the net, and just generally a lot more polished when it comes to defending than Josi was at the same age.

So again, I personally think Reinbacher's game is much more reminiscent of Jaccob Slavin than it is Roman Josi, no matter what he says/yearns for in interviews.

But hey, I'd love for Reinbacher to prove me wrong and actually go on a Roman Josi-esque development in the NHL. That would be amazing.

I just don't see it though.

 

[Hinterland]

Reinbacher might be saying he models his game after Josi's but if you look at both of them on the ice, their playstyle is actually quite different so I don't see the direct parallels there aside from nationality.

Put simply, Josi is a modern offensive defenseman that has ++ skating, poise, good puck-possession skills, is amazing in transition, as well as owns great offensive skill carrying the puck and holding the blueline on the powerplay. And although Josi is far from a slouch defensively, he is also not anywhere near a shutdown defenseman.

Reinbacher on the other hand, is much more defense-first than Josi, slower, less skilled, less adept of a shooter, and much more raw in his puck carries, meaning that his offensive potential is much lesser than Josi's. Reinbacher's decisions with the puck, although fast and reasonably mistake-free, are also not nearly as creative offensively.

But Reinbacher is also a LOT better defensively, has better core stength, much tighter gap control, understands angles, positioning and passing lanes a lot better in his own zone, fares much better against the cycle, is a better battler for the puck along the boards or in front of the net, and just generally a lot more polished when it comes to defending than Josi was at the same age.

So again, I personally think Reinbacher's game is much more reminiscent of Jaccob Slavin than it is Roman Josi, no matter what he says/yearns for in interviews.

But hey, I'd love for Reinbacher to prove me wrong and actually go on a Roman Josi-esque development in the NHL. That would be amazing.

I just don't see it though.

This is false, especially the bolded. Reinbacher is far from better than Josi defensively. He says himself he needs to work on defense a lot. Josi on the other hand is known for perfect positioning and very good stickwork against the puck. It's also false that Reinbacher isn't creative. For example, he's a master of stretch passes. He creates a ton of offense and he does create grade a chances. You don't score so many primary assists if you're not creative. Reinbacher is also a lot better than Josi was after his draft season so while it remains a tough ask, as of right now there's no reason to believe he won't be on Josi's level one day.

 

[Rolo Tomassi]

I guess it's a thing

check growth plates - Google Suche

www.google.com

It really is a thing. My 13 year old son broke his arm in a soccer game last June. When i took him for x-rays they pointed out how tall he was and that his growth plates were still open and that he was definitely going to grow more and probably pass me.

He was 5’11” at the time and I am just over 6’1”. He is now 14 and about an inch and half taller than me.

Side note: that little twerp now cant stop running his mouth about being bigger than me, haha.

 

[montreal]

 

[HuGo Sham]

All speculation at this point. He’s already plenty big enough to have an impact very soon in the NHL.

In situations like this, don’t go into it expecting a kid to grow, seems like fools gold to me.

yeah he's already 6'2. who cares?

 

[montreal]