D David Reinbacher - EHC Kloten, NL (2023, 5th, MTL)

[snipes]

I said the same thing last year when the Habs passed on the future 1C in Shane Wright. There must have been something about the player that they didn't like, because on paper the Wright pick made sense as did the Michkov one.

Hopefully it works out well for both Montreal and Philly.

Time will tell as the adage goes.

Notwithstanding my thoughts on Michkov, I will add that Montreal has one heck of a D prospect pool and if we’re counting Guhle as a prospect still then it’s outstanding.

The Habs probably have the best D prospect pool or one of the best in the NHL with the addition of Reinbacher. They have size and skill throughout on both sides in the pipeline which teams who win generally have lots of big, mobile D men and some skill on the backend as well.

Most of what I had to say wasn’t necessarily a knock on Reinbacher as a prospect but more to do with how high of an upside I see with Michkov based on enough quality viewings of the player.

 

[Michoulicious]

She was not wrong.

 

[Legend123]

I think Reinbacher will be better than Guhle.

even better.

 

[Hinterland]

wonder why 6 teams passed on that

Again...I don't think any team doubts Michkov's upside. He fell all the way down to Philadelphia for different reasons.

 

[Michoulicious]

even better.

Top 5 pick? HAS to be.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

She was not wrong.

We'll, she might have been hoping for Zadina like many Habs fans at the time.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Again...I don't think any team doubts Michkov's upside. He fell all the way down to Philadelphia for different reasons.

and thats the reasons Habs passed on him so we can stop talking about not drafting him Canadiens didnt pick a russian last year and wont pick one this year sucks but they're playing politics

 

[Michoulicious]

We'll, she might have been hoping for Zadina like many Habs fans at the time.

Sure! Still KK was a reach.

 

[ottawa]

There is nothing wrong with this pick if you ignore Michkov was available. He deserved to be a top 5 pick from everything I've read. I like it a lot more than Slaf at 1st overall.

The problem is ignoring that little bit though.

Habs fans will ultimately rally behind Reinbacher, no doubt about that but there will always be a question of "what if" until Michkov comes into the league. If he kills it like Kaprizof then we'll never live this one down even if Reinbacher becomes a #1D. We're starved for offense, have been for decades.

 

[FlameChampion]

I think people are over reacting to this pick. I think hes going to be a very good player for Montreal.

 

[NiagaraKraken]

Kid has no chance in Montreal lol.

 

[Zorro]

So drafted for need and not BPA in the top 5? Not something a team should do let alone the GM admit. Yikes.

Not saying this is necessarily the case here, but It happens a lot and we don't need a GM to admit it when it's obvious. I mean just last year, NJ picked Nemec and that was clearly for need when you consider what was still available and did it for the #2 pick nonetheless.

 

[FlameChampion]

Yup! He is pretty much admitting he drafted for position and not BPA. No one has a crystal ball, but drafting for position is stupid strategy. I fear that HuGo will be worse the Bergevin when all is said and done.

Well GM's either lie about drafting BPA or everyone has a different opinion what BPA is. Both are probably true. Draft never goes like a BPA list. Time will only tell how good Michkov/Reinbacher turn out to be.

Hopefully the fans dont run the kid out of the building before hes even played a game. Reinbacher wasnt the one who picked himself.

 

[Favster]

I just love how people around here use BPA as if it's the same for everyone. We can't even all agree on who the top 10 BP's are for established NHL players. I mean, it's ridiculous. Anyways, Reinbacher is getting severely underrated on here.

 

[SENStastic]

Well GM's either lie about drafting BPA or everyone has a different opinion what BPA is. Both are probably true. Draft never goes like a BPA list. Time will only tell how good Michkov/Reinbacher turn out to be.

Hopefully the fans dont run the kid out of the building before hes even played a game. Reinbacher wasnt the one who picked himself.

Oh GMs absolutely lie about drafting BPA all the time, amongst many other lies they tell for public relations purposes. Dorion has been gaslighting our fanbase for years, he literally just proclaimed that he thinks this draft is weak and therefore its not a big deal we have no picks in the 1st round (or 2nd or 3rd either). Same when he went with the massive reach of Boucher at 10OA. We all know they're bsing us.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

We'll, she might have been hoping for Zadina like many Habs fans at the time.

That was Zadina’s billet I believe, so yeah - she was

 

[Canadienna]

Not saying this is necessarily the case here, but It happens a lot and we don't need a GM to admit it when it's obvious. I mean just last year, NJ picked Nemec and that was clearly for need when you consider what was still available and did it for the #2 pick nonetheless.

Except KH did admit to drafting for need by saying he would have cooled on Reinbacher if he shot the other way.

That was Zadina’s billet I believe, so yeah - she was

No that is an old rumour. This has been settled before. She was just a fan.

Edit: Found it, she was not anyone's billet.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

The overractions are hilarious. Probably because the NLA is a bit of an underrated league.

This guy is smart, mobile, strong and agressive. He's the complete package and already a key player for his team. His offensive tools are raw but very noticeable as well.

Reinbacher is not just a defensively-sound, safe pick. He has some great upside and could end up being a reliable top pairing D in 5-6 years.

 

[Tripledeke333]

Well GM's either lie about drafting BPA or everyone has a different opinion what BPA is. Both are probably true. Draft never goes like a BPA list. Time will only tell how good Michkov/Reinbacher turn out to be.

Hopefully the fans dont run the kid out of the building before hes even played a game. Reinbacher wasnt the one who picked himself.

Reinbecher is not the fans want to run out of the building. The fans want Hugo gone.

 

[Tripledeke333]

The overractions are hilarious. Probably because the NLA is a bit of an underrated league.

This guy is smart, mobile, strong and agressive. He's the complete package and already a key player for his team. His offensive tools are raw but very noticeable as well.

Reinbacher is not just a defensively-sound, safe pick. He has some great upside and could end up being a reliable top pairing D in 5-6 years.

So because HuGo did not want to wait 3 years for a franchise forward, they decided to 6 years for for a Dman?

 

[Frank Drebin]

So because HuGo did not want to wait 3 years for a franchise forward, they decided to 6 years for for a Dman?

Ducks, Jackets, Sharks, Habs and Coyotes didn't pass on Michkov because they didn't want to wait 3 years for him to come over.

Maybe it was political, but I think they all preferred other players to him.

We shall see how this all plays out.

 

[JRichard]

Like, I don't like the pick at all, with Leonard, Michkov and Dvorsky on board, I preferred all 3, even Benson in my case.

I started seeing it coming, Benson was gonna fall, so if I loved him at 5, I would have traded down to get him, same f***ing concept here, while I understand that the Coyotes wanted Reinbacher, taking him at 5 is bad asset management.

If you loved him, trade down, you missed on him? whatever, you got rewarded the extra assets, you could still have landed Leonard or Michkov at 7, even Dvorsky if you wanted a center.

And if the rumored Askarov, 15 (Wood or ASP) and 24 (Perreault) offer was fact and you said no for Reinbacher, holy shiiiiiit.

Imagine we took Philly's 7th and 22nd and ended up with Leonard and Perreault...

Reinbacher to me was an asset valued near the 10th pick.

Thats the thing with « imagining » things. Do you believe Philly offered 7, 22 + Foerster for 5??
its all nice in fantasy but reality is different.

Lots of reaching and some teams got value with Perrault (23), Benson (13), Barlow (18)

 

[Tripledeke333]

Ducks, Jackets, Sharks, Habs and Coyotes didn't pass on Michkov because they didn't want to wait 3 years for him to come over.

Maybe it was political, but I think they all preferred other players to him.

We shall see how this all plays out.

Ducks Jackets and Sharks got roughly equivalent talent IMO as all those players have a high floor and ceiling.

Arizona does not even have an NHL rink so I don’t think anyone should model actions off them.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Ducks Jackets and Sharks got roughly equivalent talent IMO as all those players have a high floor and ceiling.

Arizona does not even have an NHL rink so I don’t think anyone should model actions off them.

No use arguing what we predict as fact. As a habs fan I just hope this kid turns into a top ten d like a Pietrangelo or mcavoy

 

[ijuka]

The only player who's scored more as a u19 defenseman in NLA is Roman Josi.