WC: Czech Team 2022

[Czechboy]

Vrana just scores... A pure finisher that is misunderstood imo. We constantly complaint we have possession but never finish.. well, that's what vrana does. I totally agree he doesn't backcheck like a Zohorna or blumel but they can't score like him. Most can't. For the Czechs only Pastrnak is more prolific.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Will Jiricek play in the WC's?

 

[Voodoozz]

Will Jiricek play in the WC's?

It's practically certain at this point.

 

[Goodman68]

It's practically certain at this point.

I can't imagine that Jiříček was not in the team. It is not clear to me why Jordan is still in the team, it seems to me that he is no longer in a hurry and thanks to that he makes bad decisions during the game. Šulák was still to be on the team, as well as Budík played much better.

 

[Czechboy]

Dostal is now available! Yes I want him.

 

[Czechboy]

It's practically certain at this point.

Cutting him would be assinine! I think he's pretty set with Sklenicka as his partner.

 

[Czechboy]

Not World Championships but the draft looks to be the best one since 2018 (11 players).... last 3 years have been around 7 or 8 guys.

We look to have 2 first rounders - Jiricek and Kulich.
Then we have Hamara and Sapo that will probably be 2nd round.
We have 3 goalies rated in Europe and 1 in NA - so I'll guess at least 2 get taken

That has us at 6

We have overagers Gut, Ivan and Malik who I think might go as well as overagers putting us at 9

Then we have a few other players that seem likely to be drafted... Moravec, Cech and Plos in Europe.
David Spacek is also rated around 55 and should also be drafter.

That puts us at 13 with 2 first rounders. Best draft in years assumign it goes as conveniently as I described.lol

That also leaves out guys like Hujer, Bechar and Marcel.

Feel free to quote this and laugh at me in June. I also have no idea why Benes isn't even considered or mentioned (I don't think he is underage but maybe that is it).

Kulich může do prvního kola. Před skauty povýšili i Hamara, Špaček či Plos | Hokej.cz - web českého hokeje

Dva měsíce před draftem vydalo Oddělení centrálního skautingu NHL finální žebříček talentů, kteří vyhlížejí první zásadní moment svých kariér. Objevilo se v něm i 27 českých mladíků ročníků 2003 a 2004.

hokej.cz

 

[FourQuarters]

Not World Championships but the draft looks to be the best one since 2018 (11 players).... last 3 years have been around 7 or 8 guys.

We look to have 2 first rounders - Jiricek and Kulich.
Then we have Hamara and Sapo that will probably be 2nd round.
We have 3 goalies rated in Europe and 1 in NA - so I'll guess at least 2 get taken

That has us at 6

We have overagers Gut, Ivan and Malik who I think might go as well as overagers putting us at 9

Then we have a few other players that seem likely to be drafted... Moravec, Cech and Plos in Europe.
David Spacek is also rated around 55 and should also be drafter.

That puts us at 13 with 2 first rounders. Best draft in years assumign it goes as conveniently as I described.lol

That also leaves out guys like Hujer, Bechar and Marcel.

Feel free to quote this and laugh at me in June. I also have no idea why Benes isn't even considered or mentioned (I don't think he is underage but maybe that is it).

Kulich může do prvního kola. Před skauty povýšili i Hamara, Špaček či Plos | Hokej.cz - web českého hokeje

Dva měsíce před draftem vydalo Oddělení centrálního skautingu NHL finální žebříček talentů, kteří vyhlížejí první zásadní moment svých kariér. Objevilo se v něm i 27 českých mladíků ročníků 2003 a 2004.

hokej.cz

Are Gut and II in the final list? I don't think I saw their name.

 

[Czechboy]

Are Gut and II in the final list? I don't think I saw their name.

overagers. Not on list but I could see someone taking them the second time around (like Dominik Simon for instance). I could also be dead wrong. Last year was a weird draft and I think a lot of good players got missed.

 

[Czechboy]

Meaningless of course but wins are more fun than losses. Nice to see the NHL guys get some points right away. I consider Blumel and Smejkal musts for this team along with the NHL players, Jiricek, Cervenka/Krejci and Chlapik. Let's see how it turns out.

 

[Czechboy]

I think this means Francouz is out (not that I think Av's were losing).

I assume they are not considering Rittich (ftr.. I would want him here but I'm positive I'm the only one!).

So that leaves Dostal (available), Vanecek (scratched today) and Vladar (backup).

Vanecek would be our starter over Vejmelka and I would love that tandem! So I'll hold out hope for that one.

Then Vladar backing up Vejmelka (I actually think Vladar is better than Vanecek but hasn't got the chance yet)
Then Dostal backing up Vejmelka

Langhammer as 3.

2 years from now, I think Dostal is the best Czech goalie.

 

[Czechboy]

We won the Baier games!?

Nice win over Swiss. To my eye... team looks smooth and comes in waves. Very patient and waits to score.

Vejmelka has been lights out!

Stransky is a great player but he hasn't looked great for us this season.. not sure why.

The NHL guys join and the Extraliga guys score... Kundratek, Holik, Blumel all scored.

Vrana had a lot of shots and chances but couldn't bury it till the empty netter.

Jiricek with another assist. He has to be a lock!

I think I read Lukes is going home and Dostal is coming! I also read that Dostal, Langhamer and Vejmelka were a trio for Kometa a few years ago.

 

[Khokhlach86]

final roster

 

[Czechboy]

final roster

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I really like the team.. thrilled dostal is going. Only gripe is no chlapik but if we add a few NHL guys after round 1 I'm sure I'll get over it. Feel bad for krejcik.. he was there from day 1.

D core is what it is... Think they picked a nice combo of guys but this is our Achilles heel. Will be interesting to see her jiricek does! This is also a faster team than usual as we have some burners! Very different look from the disastrous Olympics.

Best thing is that we have our two best centres on the team! That should help a lot.

A year ago I would've scoffed at Vejmelka making team... Now I'm thrilled.

 

[Elias40]

The only thing that would interest me as a fan is whether this team does not mentally compete in QF, SF and medal matches. Only Cervenka and Krejci won something with NT. The rest of the players have medals and trophies only from the club, so no winning culture like in Finland. Scotka is a rather dubious name on the list, in the matches I saw, so Simek left no impression on me. The attackers will have to help a lot with returning to the defense, because defensively the list is average.

 

[Saablic]

It´s in the coach, definitely. We need to find our way again. Coach from Finland could help us, he knows our players, he wants to keep Czech creativity in our game, but he brought new aspects into our game, we missed the train in world hockey so we have to keep up again. I am looking forward to this WHC, we have a chance to bring a medal again. These last two tournaments were definitely a good step. Still preparation, don´t forget about this! Let´s go Czechia!!

 

[Mestaruus]

It´s in the coach, definitely. We need to find our way again. Coach from Finland could help us, he knows our players, he wants to keep Czech creativity in our game, but he brought new aspects into our game, we missed the train in world hockey so we have to keep up again. I am looking forward to this WHC, we have a chance to bring a medal again. These last two tournaments were definitely a good step. Still preparation, don´t forget about this! Let´s go Czechia!!

K.Jalonen said that in a Finnish interview as well that he doesn't want to loose that Czech style of fast and good skating mixed with good skill.

 

[Wooren]

K.Jalonen said that in a Finnish interview as well that he doesn't want to loose that Czech style of fast and good skating mixed with good skill.

You sure you are talking about Czech style?

 

[Mestaruus]

You sure you are talking about Czech style?

Me? I told you what K.Jalonen said. I'm not K.Jalonen or am I . He probably meant that he doesn't want to make it some over defensive Finnish style you know.

 

[Czechboy]

so no winning culture

I think only Voracek is left that is playing and has a Gold.lol 2010 was a long time ago! Technically Jagr/Klepis etc but they aren't on national team anymore. I could be wrong. Only guys we have with medals lately are from the 2014 U18 silver like Vrana, Vanecek, Pasta, Kase and Zadina.

 

[Elias40]

I think only Voracek is left that is playing and has a Gold.lol 2010 was a long time ago! Technically Jagr/Klepis etc but they aren't on national team anymore. I could be wrong. Only guys we have with medals lately are from the 2014 U18 silver like Vrana, Vanecek, Pasta, Kase and Zadina.

I know they have silver from 2014 and there are some good players from that team, the best of them got into the NHL. But it has been eight years since a youth team won a medal. So you can't build a winning culture out of nothing if you don't have a medal. And I see this as a problem no matter how good the team Jalonen is.

In Finland, I think it broke at WJC 2016, they played at home and managed to manage the pressure and win gold. A similar title from the youth would also help hockey in the Czech Republic a lot. It's not just about winning the medal itself, it's just a by-product of that success. There is a better chance of attracting children to hockey, it is a welcome boost for other youth players and in the end it can also help in the draft. When the tournament was now in Germany and specifically in Bavaria - Landshut and Kaufbeuren are cities in Bavaria, there were very few Czech youth coaches at the tournament. Germany is a neighboring country, Bavaria is a few hours by car..and the interest was very small. You may think this is a small thing and it won't help hockey as such to win, but it's pretty sad. And you can't rely on the federation to do a seminar and exit from the U18 World Cup.

Jan Kovar is an accurate reflection of contemporary Czech hockey. A good player, slightly above average on a European scale, has enough trophies or individual awards at the club level. But he never won anything in the national team and we can't write that he represented in a small number of tournaments. So we'll see if Jalonen overcomes this problem, brings the medal, and what I'm writing now will be a small and insignificant problem.

 

[Czechboy]

I know they have silver from 2014 and there are some good players from that team, the best of them got into the NHL. But it has been eight years since a youth team won a medal. So you can't build a winning culture out of nothing if you don't have a medal. And I see this as a problem no matter how good the team Jalonen is.

In Finland, I think it broke at WJC 2016, they played at home and managed to manage the pressure and win gold. A similar title from the youth would also help hockey in the Czech Republic a lot. It's not just about winning the medal itself, it's just a by-product of that success. There is a better chance of attracting children to hockey, it is a welcome boost for other youth players and in the end it can also help in the draft. When the tournament was now in Germany and specifically in Bavaria - Landshut and Kaufbeuren are cities in Bavaria, there were very few Czech youth coaches at the tournament. Germany is a neighboring country, Bavaria is a few hours by car..and the interest was very small. You may think this is a small thing and it won't help hockey as such to win, but it's pretty sad. And you can't rely on the federation to do a seminar and exit from the U18 World Cup.

Jan Kovar is an accurate reflection of contemporary Czech hockey. A good player, slightly above average on a European scale, has enough trophies or individual awards at the club level. But he never won anything in the national team and we can't write that he represented in a small number of tournaments. So we'll see if Jalonen overcomes this problem, brings the medal, and what I'm writing now will be a small and insignificant problem.

I wasn't arguing that we do have a winning culture.. I was agreeing and yes it's a problem.

I actually have a big Kovar fear!

Back in the day.. Plekanec ALWAYS came and was a tremendous captain. He skipped one year.. 2010 .. we won Gold on that one. I always felt bad for him as he deserved a gold.

Now Kovar is out so watch us win a Gold.lol

The empty stands for both the EHT and U18 were alarming!

 

[BigBadBoar]

I too think Czech hockey desperately needs a medal from this tournament. The hockey atmosphere here has been gloomy, especially after this year's Olympics. Players themselves seemed to be seriously frustrated, almost like "OK, now we know we are trash, we will never win anything, sorry for that". Any medal from this tournament may boost things at least a bit, from kids' interest in hockey to a motivation of our hockey association to actually do something.

 

[Elias40]

Platil píše o korupci v hokeji. Popsal Královy praktiky i výhružky

Bývalý reprezentační obránce Jan Platil (39) se rozhodl uveřejnit otevřený dopis popisující korupci v hokeji. Na konkrétních příkladech popisuje praktiky šéfa českého hokeje Tomáše Krále a apeluje na rodiče, trenéry a bývalé i současné hráče, aby ho sesadili. Píše i o tom, že mu Král vyhrožoval...

isport.blesk.cz

Good timing, now to keep Jalonen from translating the article..

 

[BigBadBoar]

Platil píše o korupci v hokeji. Popsal Královy praktiky i výhružky

Bývalý reprezentační obránce Jan Platil (39) se rozhodl uveřejnit otevřený dopis popisující korupci v hokeji. Na konkrétních příkladech popisuje praktiky šéfa českého hokeje Tomáše Krále a apeluje na rodiče, trenéry a bývalé i současné hráče, aby ho sesadili. Píše i o tom, že mu Král vyhrožoval...

isport.blesk.cz

Good timing, now to keep Jalonen from translating the article..

I don't like mr. Král at all but is Platil the right person to trust in such matter? He used to be, say, problematic person as a player, if I remember right.