WC: Czech Team 2022

[Elias40]

I don't like mr. Král at all but is Platil the right person to trust in such matter? He used to be, say, problematic person as a player, if I remember right.

Platil in Czech hockey moves for a long time, so certain information does not necessarily lie. Of course, there is corruption in hockey, somewhere bigger and somewhere smaller. I didn't mean to say that Platil was right about everything, it would be good to let Kral or Lener and Urban express their opinion. By the way, Urban is just a secretary, yet a man with a lot of influence behind the scenes, he knows a lot of problems, but he's a purely federal truth.

 

[BigBadBoar]

Platil in Czech hockey moves for a long time, so certain information does not necessarily lie. Of course, there is corruption in hockey, somewhere bigger and somewhere smaller. I didn't mean to say that Platil was right about everything, it would be good to let Kral or Lener and Urban express their opinion. By the way, Urban is just a secretary, yet a man with a lot of influence behind the scenes, he knows a lot of problems, but he's a purely federal truth.

We all know there has been a lot of corruption, fraud and mafia-esque manners in Czech hockey. I am just not sure if Platil is exactly the "good guy" fighting this all, or rather a notorious troublemaker hungry for some attention. I would better like to see somebody more credible leading an anti-corruption movement in Czech hockey.

But of course, corruption has been omnipresent here. It is reckless to me that a man like Vladimír Růžička, convicted of corruption in junior hockey - one of the most disgusting things thriving here - can still be seen as an authority by some people. OK, he used to be a top notch player, then a successful coach during certain period, but hell, he accepted a huge bribe from a young player's father. It's all documented, no rumours. How's that he wasn't banned from all activities in Czech hockey? How could this man even be the men's team coach at the WCH after this all came out? Until there are exemplary penalties to the most prominent figures engaged in all this dirt, nothing will change.

 

[Elias40]

We all know there has been a lot of corruption, fraud and mafia-esque manners in Czech hockey. I am just not sure if Platil is exactly the "good guy" fighting this all, or rather a notorious troublemaker hungry for some attention. I would better like to see somebody more credible leading an anti-corruption movement in Czech hockey.

But of course, corruption has been omnipresent here. It is reckless to me that a man like Vladimír Růžička, convicted of corruption in junior hockey - one of the most disgusting things thriving here - can still be seen as an authority by some people. OK, he used to be a top notch player, then a successful coach during certain period, but hell, he accepted a huge bribe from a young player's father. It's all documented, no rumours. How's that he wasn't banned from all activities in Czech hockey? How could this man even be the men's team coach at the WCH after this all came out? Until there are exemplary penalties to the most prominent figures engaged in all this dirt, nothing will change.

When the problem of Ruzicka vs Palascak began, Lener, a politician and former coach Bukac, spoke at one of the discussion meetings. When asked if there is corruption in Czech hockey, Lener first answered. According to him, not and if so, in small quantities and it is an individual. Bukac was the second to answer, saying that corruption exists, of course, and affects a large part of the club, coaches, parents ... just all the people involved in hockey. But why does one deny corruption and the other say it exists? Because Lener was a long-term employee of the federation, so he will deny that corruption existed, he even said he made an anti-corruption hotline where anyone could call ...

On the other side stood Bukac, who had no official job at the time, no one paid him, and could speak openly about the subject. And here you see who is answering an unpleasant topic. Bukac was completely independent of hockey, so he could describe the situation as it is without having to worry about his place or his reputation. Ruzicka was supposed to end up in hockey after the video with Palascak appeared in the media. If there were people in the union for whom corruption is like a red card and something that is unacceptable, Ruzicka would never have any role in hockey. Unfortunately, this man just withdrew from the extra league but still worked as a coach. And today he is a coach in the extralize ...

When hockey can no longer help itself, sponsors were to appear in the Ruzicka case and demand an end. And if corruption were to occur again, they would reduce financial support for hockey. But none of that happened, most people from that time continued to work in hockey, which is absurd. What signal is there when a coach takes bribes?

 

[Jablkon]

When the problem of Ruzicka vs Palascak began, Lener, a politician and former coach Bukac, spoke at one of the discussion meetings. When asked if there is corruption in Czech hockey, Lener first answered. According to him, not and if so, in small quantities and it is an individual. Bukac was the second to answer, saying that corruption exists, of course, and affects a large part of the club, coaches, parents ... just all the people involved in hockey. But why does one deny corruption and the other say it exists? Because Lener was a long-term employee of the federation, so he will deny that corruption existed, he even said he made an anti-corruption hotline where anyone could call ...

On the other side stood Bukac, who had no official job at the time, no one paid him, and could speak openly about the subject. And here you see who is answering an unpleasant topic. Bukac was completely independent of hockey, so he could describe the situation as it is without having to worry about his place or his reputation. Ruzicka was supposed to end up in hockey after the video with Palascak appeared in the media. If there were people in the union for whom corruption is like a red card and something that is unacceptable, Ruzicka would never have any role in hockey. Unfortunately, this man just withdrew from the extra league but still worked as a coach. And today he is a coach in the extralize ...

When hockey can no longer help itself, sponsors were to appear in the Ruzicka case and demand an end. And if corruption were to occur again, they would reduce financial support for hockey. But none of that happened, most people from that time continued to work in hockey, which is absurd. What signal is there when a coach takes bribes?

This was in “Mate slovo”. They covered Ruzicka and started to eliminate and isolate Bukac senior. Disgusting and disresoectful behaviour. What Platil is saying is two level higher. But I wouldn’t be surprised

 

[IceHockeyDude]

How do you guys see Jalonen as the headcoach? Has he brought something new to the strategy, style of playing or atmosphere to the team? Results at least point a bit to the direction that he has been a nice addition to the Czech team.

Söderholm has aswell gained a lot of trust among German players and fans.

 

[Czechboy]

How do you guys see Jalonen as the headcoach? Has he brought something new to the strategy, style of playing or atmosphere to the team? Results at least point a bit to the direction that he has been a nice addition to the Czech team.

Söderholm has aswell gained a lot of trust among German players and fans.

He's definitely a good coach and so far no real misteps. I was reading yesterday somewhere the Czech players aren't as professional and can be lazy and that he might be starting 7am arena arrival times and such to get everyone on same page.

He's also walking into a perfect storm... got our 1 and 2C from a best on best tourney, a NHL goalie, our best D and a few more NHLer's sprinkled in. Plus one of the big 5 missing. All the pieces are in place for success (which would be bronze). Plus 2 very important future stars in Dostal and Jiricek.

I think he'll do great. I won't change my opinion though that I'd rather see a good Czech coach doing all this but that is also his biggest advantage.. not corrupt... yet!

 

[IceHockeyDude]

He's definitely a good coach and so far no real misteps. I was reading yesterday somewhere the Czech players aren't as professional and can be lazy and that he might be starting 7am arena arrival times and such to get everyone on same page.

He's also walking into a perfect storm... got our 1 and 2C from a best on best tourney, a NHL goalie, our best D and a few more NHLer's sprinkled in. Plus one of the big 5 missing. All the pieces are in place for success (which would be bronze). Plus 2 very important future stars in Dostal and Jiricek.

I think he'll do great. I won't change my opinion though that I'd rather see a good Czech coach doing all this but that is also his biggest advantage.. not corrupt... yet!

Thanks for the update!

 

[BigBadBoar]

How do you guys see Jalonen as the headcoach? Has he brought something new to the strategy, style of playing or atmosphere to the team? Results at least point a bit to the direction that he has been a nice addition to the Czech team.

Söderholm has aswell gained a lot of trust among German players and fans.

His obvious advantage is that he had no previous connection with the Czech association, was not a part of all that dirty business and corruption.

As a coach - Definitely he is a competent, experienced coach. He has brought a bit of "Finnish" strategy to our team. All five players on the ice played as a bit more compact unit that they used before, trying to stay closer one to each other, so that they could outnumber their opponents 2-1, 3-2 in particular situations. Also, penalty killing seemed to improve, the defending four was looking better coordinated, compact. They were leaving less room for long cross passes than under Pešán. But only the main tournament will tell more.

 

[Elias40]

This was in “Mate slovo”. They covered Ruzicka and started to eliminate and isolate Bukac senior. Disgusting and disresoectful behaviour. What Platil is saying is two level higher. But I wouldn’t be surprised

Yes, it was on this show and I don't like that show. There, people are just arguing, interrupting or jumping into speech. But Bukac knew what he was saying, his answers were thoughtful, and he spoke to the point.

At that time, I fully understood from Lener's words how people in the union think. Any criticism strictly rejected, a person who dared to criticize someone or something was silenced in the hockey environment or was labeled a fool. And people often didn't even have the courage to get out of fear for their jobs. Therefore, Bukac's findings were such a benefit, because he was not dependent on anyone, he could afford to name the problems of hockey with absolute precision, but he writes about it in his book. That he wanted to prepare the concept of youth in detail for free ... but the chairman chose Prerost, an unknown but loyal man.

Unfortunately, Bukac is no longer with us, I think he would have something to say with Jalonen about Czech and Finnish hockey. Overall, society in the Czech Republic is very polarized in virtually every way, sports are no exception. I don't see too many people who are independent of the current or past union leadership. Hasek or Hnilicka are not good choices in my opinion. There was once an attempt with Kulhank. He was a man outside of hockey, I think he came to the union from Skodovka. He was not a bad person in terms of financial support for hockey, but he did not understand hockey at all and eventually surrounded himself with bad people.

Should the new union president be tied to a club or should he be someone who is not affiliated with any club? I don't know, it will be a difficult choice and it is quite possible that the current leadership will continue to have an impact on what is happening in Czech hockey now and will continue to do so in the future.

 

[Czechboy]

So I guess Rittich didn't get the call?lol

Looking at playoffs... pipe dreams but Pasta, Palat, Chytil and Rutta may all be out by tomorrow night. Vanecek will be nice and rested as well since he lost his job.

 

[SoundAndFury]

So I guess Rittich didn't get the call?lol

Not sure if serious, he was god-awful this year and his NHL career is probably over. I would easily take any of the better Czech EU goalies (Will, Kovar, Langhammer, Bartosak, Kvaca) over him at this point. Not to mention Dostal and Vejmelka who are with the team already.

Rutta is UFA and injured, Palat is UFA and probably looking for the last significant contract of his career, I think they aren't realistic options either.

 

[Czechboy]

Not sure if serious, he was god-awful this year and his NHL career is probably over. I would easily take any of the better Czech EU goalies (Will, Kovar, Langhammer, Bartosak, Kvaca) over him at this point. Not to mention Dostal and Vejmelka who are with the team already.

Rutta is UFA and injured, Palat is UFA and probably looking for the last significant contract of his career, I think they aren't realistic options either.

I didn't know Palat and Rutta were UFA.. thank you! Go bolts go in that case as Kampf would become available and he has a contract.lol

And yes, I'm a Rittich fan but may be the only member of his fan club.lol Agreed he's done in NHL.

 

[SoundAndFury]

At the risk of slightly highjacking the thread, I will say with the way KHL is going AHL/3rd goalie job will probably become much more of an option for guys like Rittich.

So many teams are forced to put their 3rd goalies in action these days, they have a lot of familiarity and name recognition in NA while also being a significant financial risk for the player on an obvious downslope for EU teams. So his NHL career might not be over quite yet, just his career as a legitimate NHL goalie probably is.

I actually became curious and started counting, there were 17 teams that started their 3rd/4th/5th/etc goalies for more than 5 games this season, not to mention you are being paid NHL salary on the bench as well. Being 3rd string goalie is basically a legitimate NHL job these days.

 

[Czechboy]

At the risk of slightly highjacking the thread, I will say with the way KHL is going AHL/3rd goalie job will probably become much more of an option for guys like Rittich.

So many teams are forced to put their 3rd goalies in action these days, they have a lot of familiarity and name recognition in NA while also being a significant financial risk for the player on an obvious downslope for EU teams. So his NHL career might not be over quite yet, just his career as a legitimate NHL goalie probably is.

I actually became curious and started counting, there were 17 teams that started their 3rd/4th/5th/etc goalies for more than 5 games this season, not to mention you are being paid NHL salary on the bench as well. Being 3rd string goalie is basically a legitimate NHL job these days.

His best bet at career resurrection was probably the KHL but I doubt that is an option now. Curious where he ends up! He went from all star and the 'stick flip' to journeyman goalie and going viral for all the wrong reasons inside of a few seasons. Shame. Hope he gets it back.

 

[Czechboy]

Great Britain Saturday and Sweden Sunday.

If it were me.. I'd play Dostal on Saturday against GB and a fresh Vlejmelka on Sunday against the powerhouse Swedes. Goalies tend to be worse on back to backs.

Obviously, coaches probably prefer Langhammer but I think Dostal is the way to go.

 

[Henkka]

Any clue about the lines?

Are they waiting for any NHLrs still ?

 

[Khokhlach86]

Any clue about the lines?

Are they waiting for any NHLrs still ?

yesterday practice

Smejkal - Hertl - Vrána
Červenka - Krejčí - Blümel
Simon - Špaček - Stránský
Flek - Černoch - Zohorna

Šimek - Hronek
Sklenička - Jiříček
Musil - Kundrátek
Jordán - Ščotka

 

[Czechboy]

So 3 spots open but they've registered all 3 goalies so no Vanecek if he falls out (unless I've read wrong).

Musil-Kodytek-Holik not on squad yet. Poor Musil. I know he's a throwback to the 80s but I like him!

 

[Torspo21]

David Pastrnak is going to join the Czech team, in case Boston doesn´t continue in the playoffs, per Sami Kapanen.

Sami Kapanen paljastaa: NHL-supertähti lupautunut Kari Jalosen luotsaamaan MM-joukkueeseen

Sami Kapanen pitää Tshekkiä yhtenä MM-kisojen kultamitalisuosikeista. Joukkue vahvistuu entisestään, jos Boston Bruins tippuu NHL:n pudotuspeleistä.

www.mtvuutiset.fi

 

[Eye of Ra]

In that case:

Vrana - Hertl - Pastrnak

best line in the whole tournament

 

[Goodman68]

David Pastrnak is going to join the Czech team, in case Boston doesn´t continue in the playoffs, per Sami Kapanen.

Sami Kapanen paljastaa: NHL-supertähti lupautunut Kari Jalosen luotsaamaan MM-joukkueeseen

Sami Kapanen pitää Tshekkiä yhtenä MM-kisojen kultamitalisuosikeista. Joukkue vahvistuu entisestään, jos Boston Bruins tippuu NHL:n pudotuspeleistä.

www.mtvuutiset.fi

I am surprised, in the Czech Republic it was written that he plays injured and will not come. That would be a great boost.

 

[kthx]

Imo Kapanen should not be taken as a reliable source.
But we'll see after G7.

 

[Czechboy]

I am surprised, in the Czech Republic it was written that he plays injured and will not come. That would be a great boost.

I read the same thing. He'd be a game changer for us obviously but I'll believe it when I see him in Finland.

I'm thinking Chytil might be our biggest reinforcement if I had to guess and then Necas or Nosek (depending who wins the game 7) which I'd be very happy with. Necas in Top 6 or Nosek as 3C. All these game 7's also leave a lot of people hurt.. Eg. Drai's ankle looked very bad last night and they may have to wheel him to the ice for Game 7. I doubt he would now come if my Oil get eliminated.

 

[Czechboy]

In that case:

Vrana - Hertl - Pastrnak

best line in the whole tournament

That's a World Cup first line in Prague if I am understanding the Czech tweet I just read.lol

 

[Voodoozz]

I read the same thing. He'd be a game changer for us obviously but I'll believe it when I see him in Finland.

I'm thinking Chytil might be our biggest reinforcement if I had to guess and then Necas or Nosek (depending who wins the game 7) which I'd be very happy with. Necas in Top 6 or Nosek as 3C. All these game 7's also leave a lot of people hurt.. Eg. Drai's ankle looked very bad last night and they may have to wheel him to the ice for Game 7. I doubt he would now come if my Oil get eliminated.

I'd love to get Necas. He'd bring the combination of skill, speed and edgework that nobody can offer on this Czech team. Barzal-lite. Heck I'd probably take him over Pasta at this moment. Go Bruins.

EDIT: No contract extension yet though, might not come over.