Cyberpunk 2077 - New RPG by CD PROJEKT RED

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

What a f***ing tirefire.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

Yeah I gotta say, Sony de-listing the game has not really made me excited to try and keep going. I might slow roll it and see what the newest update does on Monday, but I'm starting to think I might just be better off putting it out of mind and revisiting if I get a PS5 next year. I could try and see if Amazon would refund an opened game, but I doubt I'd have any luck and in any case, at least I effectively only pad $35 for it.

The de-listing is probably more of a war concerning the refund and specificlly Sony's stern refund policy (i.e., it gives them a way to do refunds while also not creating precedent for future games). Regardless of what people think of that policy, there's basically no interpretation of the CDPR statement about refunds that isn't just thm taking heat off themselves.

Consensus seems to be settling around these events and it's pretty difficult to imagine how they can salvage their reputation. The bare minimum is a playable experence on base consols ASAP. There's sort of one part of me that wants to just let it rip, bugs be damned, and make my way through a campaign, but the other part of me can't help but see all the PR spin and now news like this as giant red flags that say to just bag it with only a couple of hours in the tank and try again in a few months... if anyone with a PS4 slim has played further and feels like weighing in, I'd appreciate it.

 

[542365]

I requested a refund because I just don’t enjoy it. Haven’t experienced any bugs on my PS5, but just can’t get into it. They’ll probably deny my request because it’s PS5, but I’m not above lying to get a refund on a game I don’t enjoy.

 

[CBJx614]

Im running on a Xbox One X and I definitely had some glitches and crashes but nothing to make the game unplayable. I'm almost 50 hours into my first playthrough meanwhile my buddy is getting ready to order another copy for pc instead of his OG PS4 he originally ordered it on.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Its definitely past the point where rushing for the holiday release instead of delaying again was a big mistake.

 

[Tonneau]

I requested a refund because I just don’t enjoy it. Haven’t experienced any bugs on my PS5, but just can’t get into it. They’ll probably deny my request because it’s PS5, but I’m not above lying to get a refund on a game I don’t enjoy.

I don't see why they would reject your request for a refund as there is no PS5 version of Cyberpunk.

 

[The Merchant]

 

[Blitzkrug]

CDPR trying to pass the buck on to Sony might just be the dumbest card they've played during this whole fiasco.

It''s not Sony's fault your game is a buggy piece of shit on last gen consoles (and current gen but obv it performs better for the most part.) It's also not Sony's fault people are angry at you for releasing said buggy piece of shit. So going "oh well they let it through certification so ask them for a refund" is just a laughable attempt to deflect blame.

Sony doesn't give a shit if people buy buggy games but best believe CDPR doing what they did brought this removal on. Corporations are friends until they start to throw each other under the bus.

I'd kinda like to see Microsoft follow suit and really bend them over. I've enjoyed the game and have seen hardly any bugs as I've said, so I will not be needing a refund. but CDPR absolutely deserves to fry for how terribly they handled this.

 

[Warden of the North]

What I find most funny is that this is a game technically speaking designed for the PS4/Xbox One (in reference to consoles), yet CDPR claims they basically ignored those consoles in development and focused on the PS5/Xbox Series X

I dont think Ive ever seen a game studio crash and burn quite like this. Bioware might be close with the relatively close disasters it had with Anthem and Mass Effect Andromeda. Im not even sure Bethesda and the Fallout 76 launch quite match this, as Bethesda had a vocal contingent of detractors before that launch.

 

[Warden of the North]

Don't preorder anything ever.

In the days of digital, its seems entirely pointless, doesnt it?

 

[Frederick Stanley]

In the days of digital, its seems entirely pointless, doesnt it?

I pre ordered because of the Collector's Edition. But it's running pretty god on my PRO so, it's alright.

 

[Warden of the North]

I pre ordered because of the Collector's Edition. But it's running pretty god on my PRO so, it's alright.

Fair enough. I never really considered the collectors editions.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Glad I bought this for PC. I don't think I remember a game being so vastly superior on it compared to the console port. Not even trying to master race anything, it's legit a good game on PC. Yea there's some technical problems here and there, but nothing even close to last gen consoles. They really should've delayed it for those consoles and just released the PC version and the improved current gen patch versions.

 

[Phil McKraken]

Hyped for 7 years as basically the biggest revolution in gaming since Doom, and ends with refunds. So embarrassing.

I bought it on PS4 and I know I wouldn't enjoy it even if it ran perfectly. Fundamentally the game simply isn't very good. If you want roleplaying there's dozens of games that do it better, and the same goes for shooters and open worlds.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

Yeah, my hesitation in continuing in spite of the performance issues is also that I didn't immediately get grabbed by it, so on the whole it seems like my best option is to suck it up, ignore stuff about the game and do other things in order to try again later. My expectations have been shot to shit and I'll never really have interest in supporting this company again (I've never played W3, and ironically I should have just got a cheap version of that for kicks). At this point I'm hoping they salvage the experience with the two patches they are advertising. I'll probably give it a casual go this weekend and dick around the open world/side missions just to get a feel for things and then decide for sure.

I think it would also be hilarious if Microsoft doubles down on them like Sony, but from a cynical perspective it seems like Microsoft could try and leverage the situation to make CDPR closer to them or something. The game is already better on PC and has additional small features on the Xbox platforms. Maybe they try and play this into having the next game be Xbox/PC only or something, though at this point it's looking like there are many miles to go before anything "next" from CDPR is received with any hype.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I submitted my refund request this morning. Along with the bugs at this point I just really don't like this game. They did not deliver on so many of the massive things they promised on outside of bugs that I am just not willing to sit around and wait to see if they patch it. If they happen to salvage this train wreck in 2 or 3 years maybe I will give it another chance. I am also the farthest thing from a high maintenance gamer...generally not hard to please. By far the biggest disappointment I have had with gaming in as long as I can remember.

 

[Morbo]

$80 CDN for an alpha build. I can't even imagine the state of the game back on the original release date. On PC so not even talking about bugs here, but features.

I would probably go for a refund, but since I played more than 2 hours I can't.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Hyped for 7 years as basically the biggest revolution in gaming since Doom, and ends with refunds. So embarrassing.

I bought it on PS4 and I know I wouldn't enjoy it even if it ran perfectly. Fundamentally the game simply isn't very good. If you want roleplaying there's dozens of games that do it better, and the same goes for shooters and open worlds.

This is why you always under promise and over deliver.

The hype for this game was waaaaay too much. That also includes what they were promising us consumers. If this game came out to the same hype as let’s say...Outer Worlds it would be viewed far less of a disaster.

Im still only a few hours in haven’t felt like playing games lately, but strip away all the hype and I do like the game so far.

However, I wanted to make an old rugged man build with the Nomad story and....there is no option for white or silver hair? The character creation is actually really weak IMO.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

Man, it sucks. I’m now 23 hours in and I’ve loved it all, probably my game of the year, but the last gen nightmare is brutal.

Wasn’t their something about how the Polish government required this game to come out in 2020, because they helped fund it?

 

[Tonneau]

there is no option for white or silver hair?

There is, but the colours look wrong because there's a weird teal lighting in the character creator.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Man, this is why I avoid hype trains as much as possible. I've been intrigued by this game for as long as I've known of its existence, but I never dipped into learning more about it beyond the basics.

This is definitely the first time in my life where I decided to pick up the PC version of a game on a whim and was rewarded for it. It's still glitchy as hell, but all of my glitches have been minor (though plenty immersion-breaking) and I haven't had any issues with crashing and the game runs surprisingly well on my new-ish system (built for editing with a modest 1660 thrown in, so it doesn't look much better than the console versions, but it's relatively smooth and I crash-free).

Considering how little I knew about the game going in, I still feel like a lot of what I was expecting either isn't here or isn't nearly as impressive as hyped (the character creator was not nearly as impressive as I was expecting for one). I definitely understand the anger, especially for those playing on console. I "lucked out" with that last delay...I only went PC because I got a new monitor early for Christmas.

Two games that took forever to develop dead-set on being the 'game of the generation' released this year, neither of which are going to really be in the conversation for the title. How poorly this game runs on base PS4/Xbones is inexcusable for a game that set itself up to be the game of the generation since before the generation even began...I mean...what is the point of the wanted system if the cops have no pursuit AI? This has to be one of the most poorly-managed games I've come across in a long while...so much time spent on stupid details while elements that have been in games since the 90s are just absent. It's a bit like a movie set. Everything looks impressive until you take a step in a different direction and realize it's all a set held up by wood and nails. To say the least, the time spent on some superfluous details should have been spent actually making this work in-game.


Thing is...I'm still kinda enjoying it because I stayed away from the hype and wasn't expecting a 10/10 game. This game being an 8/10 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to me and that's what my experiences with it have been (I'm still very early and have spent more time dicking around than doing missions so far), but if I was all-in expecting a transformative experience, especially on the hardware not even out when this was originally announced...

 

[GreytWun]

Man, this is why I avoid hype trains as much as possible. I've been intrigued by this game for as long as I've known of its existence, but I never dipped into learning more about it beyond the basics.

This is definitely the first time in my life where I decided to pick up the PC version of a game on a whim and was rewarded for it. It's still glitchy as hell, but all of my glitches have been minor (though plenty immersion-breaking) and I haven't had any issues with crashing and the game runs surprisingly well on my new-ish system (built for editing with a modest 1660 thrown in, so it doesn't look much better than the console versions, but it's relatively smooth and I crash-free).

Considering how little I knew about the game going in, I still feel like a lot of what I was expecting either isn't here or isn't nearly as impressive as hyped (the character creator was not nearly as impressive as I was expecting for one). I definitely understand the anger, especially for those playing on console. I "lucked out" with that last delay...I only went PC because I got a new monitor early for Christmas.

Two games that took forever to develop dead-set on being the 'game of the generation' released this year, neither of which are going to really be in the conversation for the title. How poorly this game runs on base PS4/Xbones is inexcusable for a game that set itself up to be the game of the generation since before the generation even began...I mean...what is the point of the wanted system if the cops have no pursuit AI? This has to be one of the most poorly-managed games I've come across in a long while...so much time spent on stupid details while elements that have been in games since the 90s are just absent. It's a bit like a movie set. Everything looks impressive until you take a step in a different direction and realize it's all a set held up by wood and nails. To say the least, the time spent on some superfluous details should have been spent actually making this work in-game.


Thing is...I'm still kinda enjoying it because I stayed away from the hype and wasn't expecting a 10/10 game. This game being an 8/10 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to me and that's what my experiences with it have been (I'm still very early and have spent more time dicking around than doing missions so far), but if I was all-in expecting a transformative experience, especially on the hardware not even out when this was originally announced...

This is me too, I knew it was coming but never really followed it that closely so these issues don’t really matter to me directly because I had n0 expectations.

I downloaded it for PC but haven’t played it yet. Maybe during the holidays when I have some time I will give it a go.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

There is, but the colours look wrong because there's a weird teal lighting in the character creator.

So does that teal actually look white once you’re in game? I noticed like three different hair colors all looked similar light green in the creator and thought it was weird.

That’s kinda bad they couldn’t even get the color right in the creator.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

Cyberpunk Game Maker Faces Hostile Staff After Failed Launch

More inevitable shoes dropping.

Originally I sort of interpreted all of this as them just biting the bullet, knowing that they'd get hit for deceptive practices in terms of how the reviews were handled, but ultimately not mattering in terms of the sales happening. But between the situation with blanket refunds / Sony state of exception, and the stock price wiping out the entire year of growth, that seems pretty dumb. They probably would have got major flak if they did something like release only the PC version and delay the console versions until February, but you have to figure they would have avoided total disaster and creating such a mountain of shit for themselves that it's hard to see them digging out.

They've also hemmed themselves in now, because the consequences of not really fixing it on last-gen consoles will make things even worse. And I think so much of this is ultimately an "own goal" type of thing, in terms of how they handled the reviews and launch. Let's even play devil's advocate and imagine they would have allowed the fuller picture to get out, in terms of the poor performances on last-gen consoles. They'd have taken a hit and I think people would still be mad, but you have to think the situation would still be navigable for them in terms of having some control over the narrative.

 

[CartographerNo611]

Wasn’t their something about how the Polish government required this game to come out in 2020, because they helped fund it?

Yeah, they got a federal grant worth millions that stipulated 2020 release date a couple years back is what I read on other forums. Such a shame the release has gone down this way, there is a solid game hidden away that clearly had a ton of heart put into it. As of now, they should eat the loss, and just put this game into early access with refunds and remove it from Xbox One too, even on my PC version, its clearly not a finished game. I doubt the polish government would care since they just did it for PR anyways, and now its horrible PR.