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In the event of a reboot, Arizona/Phoenix should do everything in their power to try and dissociate from the Coyotes brand.
CXLVIII - Coyotes owner Alex Meruelo had 'productive' meeting with Phoenix mayor
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In the event of a reboot, Arizona/Phoenix should do everything in their power to try and dissociate from the Coyotes brand.
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Feels like a win, win:
- Salt Lake gets a team
- No more Mullett
- Coyotes get to return with a new roster, blessed with favorable expansion rules
Tawnos
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I understand the desire to reboot the team completely, but they have one of the best jerseys in the league so I wouldn't want them to change it.
sneakytitz
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Team isn't moving unless they lose the aunction any attempt for the NHL to interfere with the teams ability to bid/win that aunction would get the league sued.
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I posted this on the main board thread (and probably somewhere in this section too) but moving the Coyotes to SLC (I always thought it'd be Houston because of Fertitta's reluctance to pay an expansion fee) and then expanding to Arizona when they do have an arena ready makes perfect sense.
The NHL only has 28 big league markets because of WPG/CGY/EDM/OTT who have no buisness being big league cities if it weren't for hockey. The other big 3 leagues all have 30+. So it makes sense that the NHL wants to get SLC, HOU, and ATL, while keeping AZ, and then add one more for an even 36.
The NHL only has 28 big league markets because of WPG/CGY/EDM/OTT who have no buisness being big league cities if it weren't for hockey. The other big 3 leagues all have 30+. So it makes sense that the NHL wants to get SLC, HOU, and ATL, while keeping AZ, and then add one more for an even 36.
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sneakytitz
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That's purely speculation on the on the person that WROTE the article.
He's not wasting billions of dollars of his money for nothing.
Tawnos
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The land isn't going to cost billions of dollars and Meruelo can still build multi-use district there, with or without the arena. But the whole idea here would be that if he does manage to build an arena, he'd get a team back.
Although the exact details would not be the same, this idea is more like when the Cleveland Barons merged with the Minnesota North Stars and then were re-instated as the San Jose Sharks later on than it is like any of the other relocations that have happened in league history.
But some of those US markets, the NHL would never go into.
What they have that the NHL does not:
NFL - GB, NO, Indy, Jax, ATL, BAL, HOU, Cin, Cle, KC
NBA - Por, Sac, OKC, NO, Mem, Utah, Cha, ORL, ATL, Cle, Mil, Ind, SA, Hou
MLB - Oak, SD, Hou, Mil, Cle, Cin, KC, ATL, BAL, (extra Chi team),
NHL has teams in the same state, like in Carolina, StL, TB, Nash, Columbus for example vs in Charlotte, KC, Memphis, Orlando, Cleveland/Cincy. And I'm calling SJ equal to SF.
It's really ATL and Hou that are the big 2 glaring ones. And ATL had teams twice. Houston, had 3 bids during the late 90's expansion, but it was a mess in terms of the NHL wanted an arena plan from each bid, which would have required 3 separate plans with the city and the city wanted the NHL to pick one bid for them to work with. Rockets owner would be involved for sure, then it's a matter of whether it's just meeting with him or him and another party. If Houston got a clean bid in during the 90's, I think they get a team over Columbus. Then it may be that Hartford had an option to move to Columbus vs to Carolina.
If that happened, not sure if North Carolina is a market, given that the arena for the Canes was being built basketball specific for NC State and if that occurred, it's another Barclays/Footprint situation. And the Hornets arena is basketball specific as well in Charlotte.
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GKJ
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No, he’s trying to build an arena for a hockey team. Doesn’t have to be for this one.
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They would move to SLC, he wins auction, they build the new arena, then expansion down the road.
Seems like a good idea, then the players don’t have to play in a small rink for 3+ more years.
The thing is most of those cities are more valuable as a general TV market than the 4 Canadian NHL cities would be if it weren't hockey. Green Bay is about the only one on your list that falls in line with the 4 Canadian cities but obviously it's a special circumstance.
The NHL wants in to as many mid to big US TV markets as it can get
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Tawnos
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FWIW, the Hornets arena didn't break ground until 2003. The old Charlotte Coliseum held over 20k for hockey.
That being said, 25-30 years ago Charlotte really wasn't a big enough market to host both NBA and NHL. Today, it's close to that point.
Outside of ATL/Hou, most probably don't do much for the NHL. Utah, obviously in the mix now with their owner wanting a team.
But, even the NBA would rather be in SEA over OKC, Van over Memphis, not be in NO.
And also the reality is that most of the NBA only cities their arenas are built basketball specific. So, only aorund 13K or so of good seats for hockey.
Sounds like the players care as the NHLPA has stated on their behalf a few times now.
Rob
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This does makes sense. From everything I have read, even if the Coyotes win the land bid there is no guarantee that the arena will be built within the next three years. There is just too strong a possibility that the Coyotes end up playing at Mullet for years to come until the arena is built.
You would have to be naive at this point to think that the BOG is happy with that prospect. We already know that the players aren't.
You would have to be naive at this point to think that the BOG is happy with that prospect. We already know that the players aren't.
awfulwaffle
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Feel free to show me the economic report that the PA has done to show how much money they are losing by playing at Mullet, versus what they might be making in SLC. Otherwise, their arguments have no merit.
The only players I might be concerned about with their opinion is that of the home team themselves. Otherwise, they can go yell at the clouds.
sneakytitz
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You need an economic report to understand that you make more money when you have 14,000 tickets to sell per game instead of 4,000?
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