TheLegend
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Not any more a mess than BoH math.
CXLIII - UPDATED 6/3 - Coyotes arena deal takes next step after Tempe council votes to open negotiations
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Not any more a mess than BoH math.
We need to remember they have to set aside around 300-500 seats per game in all the arenas for VIPs, players' wives and families, scouts. Some of those seats are released to the public in the days or weeks leading up to the games based on how many are not being used.
It is like some people think all tickets in the arena are available for season ticket purchases. Every team in the league is required to have a certain number of tickets available even if that team has a waiting list for season tickets.
Digital Kid
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Setting aside 300-500 seats for VIPs, wives, girlfriends, families, scouts etc is a rounding error for all other teams.
Even if we use the minimum number here, 300, in this situation, that is over 6% of all potential tickets and close to 10% of the season ticket base.
Dealing with such a small denominator makes this whole issue more and more mathematically bizarre.
I hope this is just the dried up, rotten lettuce salad to what eventually becomes a filet mignon meal for the team.
Even if we use the minimum number here, 300, in this situation, that is over 6% of all potential tickets and close to 10% of the season ticket base.
Dealing with such a small denominator makes this whole issue more and more mathematically bizarre.
I hope this is just the dried up, rotten lettuce salad to what eventually becomes a filet mignon meal for the team.
Dirty Old Man
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I fully expect people here to crap on us for the next 3 years, no matter what the progress on the permanent arena may be. That's your identity - that's who you are.....so...
Have at it, a******s! You can bet your last buck it'll be your last licks! (and yes, i am aware that is a reference to a Canadian 80s band)
Have at it, a******s! You can bet your last buck it'll be your last licks! (and yes, i am aware that is a reference to a Canadian 80s band)
Chet Manley
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Stumbledore
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Shovelling ?
Just to be clear, are you referring to the 'shovels in the ground' cliche of a new building or to the noise of dirt being shovelled onto a coffin after it's been lowered into place?
Chet Manley
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I was referring to shovels in the ground without having to spell out the cliche. Graves are still filled in by hand?
BKIslandersFan
F*** off
See I never understood people like this so concerned over Coyotes situation.
Its not your money boss, mind your business.
TheLegend
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Re: Shovels in the ground.
One… it’s a landfill. Cleaning it out will require an alphabet soup of agencies to be involved. The soil has to go somewhere.
Two… it’s a landfill. Considering what they’re finding in the exposed bottom of Lake Mead lately who knows what’s buried in there?
One… it’s a landfill. Cleaning it out will require an alphabet soup of agencies to be involved. The soil has to go somewhere.
Two… it’s a landfill. Considering what they’re finding in the exposed bottom of Lake Mead lately who knows what’s buried in there?
TheGreenTBer
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I don't know if I want to know the answer to this question, but...what exactly ARE they finding at the bottom of Lake Mead?Re: Shovels in the ground.
One… it’s a landfill. Cleaning it out will require an alphabet soup of agencies to be involved. The soil has to go somewhere.
Two… it’s a landfill. Considering what they’re finding in the exposed bottom of Lake Mead lately who knows what’s buried in there?
TheLegend
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The usual things so far. Boat hulls, couple of cars, etc.
But also the remains of three people. Two of which were found inside barrels.
The biggest problem though would be if they found any toxic waste deposits. There was one in the west valley a few years ago that was found under an elementary school ground that forced the school to be closed, completely torn down and then rebuilt after the waste and contaminated soil was completely removed (mainly diesel fuel from an old farm refueling site).
That took nearly two years.
PCSPounder
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Excuse me for feeling the need to probably repeat something I’ve said before in regards to this, in honor of the 180° turn I’ve made from when I first logged onto this board a decade (?) ago kind of thinking Portland had a chance, but I’ll do it in one place name.
Bournemouth.
(Whether that’s a comment on how the NHL operates and this deserves this, or is a comment on how posters will want to adhere to “standards” that perhaps shouldn’t exist… eh, these aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.)
Bournemouth.
(Whether that’s a comment on how the NHL operates and this deserves this, or is a comment on how posters will want to adhere to “standards” that perhaps shouldn’t exist… eh, these aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.)
Stumbledore
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Yes, a beautiful part of Dorset. Well worth spending a few weeks there.
I haven't a clue what statement you're making in this forum, however. Either my senility is advancing faster than I realize or your inference went so far over my head that it was out of sight.
Love your avatar, by the way. The Hawks would be wise to grab onto this and adopt it for their future logo.
No, graves are filled in by guys with shovels. If they're lucky, most of the work can be done using a bobcat or backhoe, but a guy or two with a shovel is always needed at some point.
PCSPounder
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There are enough posters here who get my seemingly obscure references that sometimes I take this place for granted. Plus I wrote this in an agitated state and needed to finish before I lost my edge.
More specifically, AFC Bournemouth, good old football / soccer. Went into British bankruptcy around 2008, came out the other side making a run that brought them up a couple levels and into the Premier League in 2015. Instead of expanding their almost 12,000-seat stadium, they held firm. Stayed up for 5 seasons. Relegated for two. But are back starting this month, and if anything, they removed a few seats.
Point is, they’re viable in a smaller facility. I’ve grown tired of the arena rat race to a large degree. It’s a mood. I’d tend to be in support of a permanent move to the ASU facility out of principle, no matter how theoretically “unrealistic” that may be.
All would be fine for the coyotes to mimicking except that they operate in a salary era and revenue sharing this it’s not fair to the other clubs who have to pay into it if the coyotes are not maximizing their revenue streams.
AZ isn’t a market that needs the largest arena as I believe Montreal then Chicago rank too 2 in the nhl. Winnipeg is under 16k and that’s fine for them. Plus business wise it’s not about quantity of seats but what you make off them. Raiders have the 3rd lowest capacity but ranked first in gate revenue in the nfl.
TheLegend
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Looks can be deceiving. Unless you know the quantities involved then that chart doesn't mean much.
You could have one seat or a couple of hundred available in any of those categories. The 10-game packages just went up last week.
You can use this to kind of get an idea of what is left in each section and each ticket package. If you use the Buy Tickets pull down you can change the package you are viewing.
https://am.ticketmaster.com/coyotes/virtual-venue/MjNDRlM=
Meh... Regardless of personal opinion. The numbers are so-so. Now personal opinion, I don't see any issue with the arena being filled.
@Legend or someone in the more know, concessions etc.. (We know the basic breakdown)...is there a "concern" point on just AZ fans? ((I mean, we know the amount of "out of state/original team (state/province) who attend? Or is it a first come sort of thing?
Out of interest, how does the $110 for the lowest priced ticket compare to the lowest priced tickets in previous years? And vice versa, the $510 for the best seats?
The Premier League is different. There are big clubs (Liverpool, ManU, ManCity, Arsenal, Chelsea), clubs trying to be big (West Ham, Leichester, Leeds, etc) and then clubs that are just happy to be there (Fulham, Brentford, Nottingham, etc) Bournemouth is in that last category. You can't compare North American salary-capped leagues that are based on the premise that anyone should be able to build a winner if they are smart enough with European league.
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