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When these other fanbases have experienced what you all have, then they can talk.

Until then they can eat a healthy bowl of shut-the-f***-up, in my opinion.
There's that, and then theres the simple fact every hockey market is happy to win a series. Edmonton fans didnt give a nod and a handshake at their win last night, the broke down security gates to see it and cheer.

No doubt ours is a bigger deal given long and short term history, but every fanbase is happy and celebrates.
 
Not a fair thread concept IMO. Could anyone really be blamed for having doubt and anxiety given the last 19 years? No one should have to eat crow. Moving forward is different though.
 
Eat it then
Eat crow for what?

For our core players being 1-7 in playoff series? For being 1-11 in series-clinching games?

If THAT'S the metric for success around here, then I'm literally rendered speechless.

Good series win by the leafs. Nowhere NEAR crow eating. In fact, if the leafs lose in round 2 (and go 1-8 in playoff series), then it's the "optimists at all cost" crowd that will once again be eating crow.

Me personally? I'd love to eat crow when the leafs win a series in June. LOVE to.

This thread was premature.
 
I always wanted them to win, hoped they would win, I was not sure they actually would. Not sure I should apologize for doubting them. Just because I doubted them, doesn't make me much less of a fan.

I wasn't happy with them since they choked Montreal series away. I wasn't watching as much regular season games because I was mad. But I always cheered on them to win and get over the hump. Now I want them to go deep and maybe even win the whole thing.

My criticisms were based on the fact that I really want to see this team succeed.
 
Allow me to quote some suggestions I've read from people on HFBoards:

- Marner should have been exposed in the expansion draft and we should have gone after some combination of Max Domi, David Savard and one other guy to replace him.
- It was better to have kept Marleau for an additional year than it was to sign Tavares because had we not signed Tavares we would have not had to give up a 1st to dump Marleau. That first was Seth Jarvis btw. Basically the user is saying that 1 year of Marleau + Seth Jarvis> Tavares
- The Zaitsev contract was a steal by Lou
- Nylander should be traded x138382
- Nazem Kadri was better than Tavares.
- Dubas is the worst GM in the league
- Nick Paul was an elite bottom six guy who could score in the playoffs and Dubas was an idiot not to trade for him. Note that Nick Paul never played in the playoffs until last year.

Not to mention the endless amount of "Regular season doesn't matter" bitching after every win only to use every loss as a referendum on the team.

Y'all should be made to eat chocolate fudge directly out of Doug Ford's fat ass.
 
I said Tampa in 6 but that was more as a reverse jinx. I was happy with additions at the deadline and they have been great. Tampa was a very tough team to beat and now they can beat anyone. I was right about Holl and finally Keefe musta have read all our comments here. Lol.
 
If you look at Keefe and Dubas' celebrations, you'd think we won the SC compared to the Oil and Canes coaches. Huge money off their backs so go ahead and celebrate but everybody knows there is much more work to be done.

Everyone on the team said there is more work to be done, but pretending like this is just a normal series win is delusional (not saying you)
 
I always wanted them to win, hoped they would win, I was not sure they actually would. Not sure I should apologize for doubting them. Just because I doubted them, doesn't make me much less of a fan.

I wasn't happy with them since they choked Montreal series away. I wasn't watching as much regular season games because I was mad. But I always cheered on them to win and get over the hump. Now I want them to go deep and maybe even win the whole thing.

My criticisms were based on the fact that I really want to see this team succeed.
The team prior to the TDL additions wasn't beating anybody. Luckily Dubas and Co. realized it and addressed their needs. Now we wait to see if they have what it takes to get to the ECF.
 
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Eat crow for what?

For our core players being 1-7 in playoff series? For being 1-11 in series-clinching games?

If THAT'S the metric for success around here, then I'm literally rendered speechless.

Good series win by the leafs. Nowhere NEAR crow eating. In fact, if the leafs lose in round 2 (and go 1-8 in playoff series), then it's the "optimists at all cost" crowd that will once again be eating crow.

Me personally? I'd love to eat crow when the leafs win a series in June. LOVE to.

This thread was premature.
You have been a stone on everyone's shoe, shitting on the team for God knows how long. You incessant mewling about salary cap and the core has been grinding. You rarely had anything good to say about this team. You demanded people acknowledge your facts. You demanded consistency. You inferred this team stunk and now that they beat the 3 time eastern conference champs, you sit at the table as a so called fan and celebrate what? That a crap team with over paid players won?
I demanded consistency! Keep saying they suck and take no joy at the success of a team you obviously hate.
 
If you look at Keefe and Dubas' celebrations, you'd think we won the SC compared to the Oil and Canes coaches. Huge money off their backs so go ahead and celebrate but everybody knows there is much more work to be done.
I did like Matthews' comments though, but I think he screwed up on the "step 1 of 3" thing.

He did seem more relieved than giddy about the round 1 win, unlike quite a few posters here.

He gets it, and I respect that.
 
"first round doesn't matter" is the new "regular season doesn't matter".

I am really hoping this turns into "the Cup doesn't matter" by the end of the season.

No, playoffs absolutely matter. They always will. You're just being ridiculous. I want to see them succeed in the playoffs, I always did. Ultimately, legends are made in the playoffs not in the regular season.
 
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I did like Matthews' comments though, but I think he screwed up on the "step 1 of 3" thing.

He did seem more relieved than giddy about the round 1 win, unlike quite a few posters here.

He gets it, and I respect that.

This whole board wants a cup, some people just enjoy the weight of 20 years off their shoulders and the fact that every point ever made about anything can't be trumped with "get out of the first round".

Any discussion this year that was not after a huge blowout where they looked amazing, half this board would just say "playoffs"
 
I did like Matthews' comments though, but I think he screwed up on the "step 1 of 3" thing.

He did seem more relieved than giddy about the round 1 win, unlike quite a few posters here.

He gets it, and I respect that.

I was relieved, excited, happy, because we get to watch more Leafs hockey that actually matters and we don't have to stress about a game 7 tomorrow.
 
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Confession is good for the soul. Time for many of you to confess your sins, do some repenting and thereby be cleansed and join the crowd that thinks positively, stays optimistic and supports the team no matter what.

All you who said that the series is over before the playoffs even started, have a seat at the table.

All you who said that the series is over after losing game one, have a seat at the table.

All you who said that the series is over after losing game 5, have a seat at the table.

All you who said that this team would never have playoff success because signing Tavares "doomed the team", have a seat at the table.

All you who said this team would never win a round as long as Dubas is the GM, have a seat at the table.

All you who said that this team would never have playoff success with Keefe as the coach, have a seat at the table.

All you who said that Mitch Marner's game isn't suited for the playoffs, have a seat at the table.

All you who said that Morgan Rielly is a mediocre hockey player and our team is better without him, have a seat at the table.

All you who mocked those saying this team could have playoff success because "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results", have a seat at the table.

All you who ridiculed Dubas for how he addressed the goaltending situation last summer, have a seat at the table.

I could go on but that's a good start, you all know who you are and I'm confident you will agree that crow never tasted so good. Repent, be cleansed of your sins, all will be forgiven and you can join the rest of us on the bandwagon. :)
Great thread Gary.

I've done my share of shitting on the team but it's out of frustration. When you've been ride or die with this team for this long this team really pushed your sanity to the limits.

I think all of the criticisms you brought up did have a degree of validity to them though - and there was nothing wrong with having simple discussion about them. It's when folks who care more about their agenda than the team's success get involved in these discussions is where they turn toxic.

That being said I'm more than happy to put all that bullshit aside.

I wonder why most people hate Leaf fans
And I wonder why you concern yourself with it so much.
 
I don't read other teams threads a whole lot because who has the time really, but I can't see them as being the vitriol filled negativity as are any normal everyday Leafs threads. You want to know what nonsense is, just open up any thread, even what are supposed to be the feelgood threads aren't immune to some bs someone will bring up about something that has no relation or bearing on the subject matter. I'm not sure how people can't see how f***ibg tiring and old that gets, especially when it's coming from supposedly mature and reasoning adults, who turn into frightened needy children at the first signs of adversity.
With some of them it got to the point of just looking at the user name and knowing exactly what their post was, topic be damned. Why they find it necessary or entertaining to post basically the exact same shit literally hundreds of times is a mystery to me. So you just recognize the poster and scroll past it knowing you didn't miss anything.
 
If you've been talking trash about the team up until last night's win, you're going to have to take it a bit on the chin today....

Yes it's fair to say that the jobs not over, and it's technically only one round, but literally not a single fan should care about that on today of all days lol
 
Can’t agree more with this. Apparently you can’t criticize a team you cheer for, but can create nonsense threads like this when they finally win 1 round, nothing more, the bar is low.

No shit the bar is low. I find fans that expect this team to magically be able to win the cup to be the most irrational of the group. The odds of any team winning the cup is already statistically low.

Then you add on we haven’t even won a playoff series in 19 years. You can’t go from never winning a series to setting the bar at a cup. You need to establish a pattern of round wins as the bar. I’d love for the leafs to make a final but I’d be happy with 2 round wins because we know how difficult that is.

There is nothing wrong with celebrating the small victories. As a fanbase we deserve it, we have gone through hell the last 20 years.
 
I did like Matthews' comments though, but I think he screwed up on the "step 1 of 3" thing.

He did seem more relieved than giddy about the round 1 win, unlike quite a few posters here.

He gets it, and I respect that.
You should watch the clip with his dad after the game. It said it all.
Then you look at the Simmonds clip in the press box where he literally put his head down and probably cried when the others were heading down to celebrate with the team.
Then the AM and Muz clip where they hugged.
It is more a relief for them than anything and from the press conf., they all know this is only a first step.
 
No shit the bar is low. I find fans that expect this team to magically be able to win the cup to be the most irrational of the group. The odds of any team winning the cup is already statistically low.

Then you add on we haven’t even won a playoff series in 19 years. You can’t go from never winning a series to setting the bar at a cup. You need to establish a pattern of round wins as the bar. I’d love for the leafs to make a final but I’d be happy with 2 round wins because we know how difficult that is.

There is nothing wrong with celebrating the small victories. As a fanbase we deserve it, we have gone through hell the last 20 years.
This year is really the first year that all the doom and gloom really annoyed me. Esp since the TDL additions, I said it then that this is probably the best Leafs team we will ever see in our life time and should just enjoy it.
Then after Game 1, it was we will get swept to Game 5, where they will choke and lose on Monday…. Just keep all those negative comments after the playoffs.
Nothing wrong with being happy bc they won a round bc it sure hell better than losing in the first round.
 
Eat crow for what?

For our core players being 1-7 in playoff series? For being 1-11 in series-clinching games?

If THAT'S the metric for success around here, then I'm literally rendered speechless.

Good series win by the leafs. Nowhere NEAR crow eating. In fact, if the leafs lose in round 2 (and go 1-8 in playoff series), then it's the "optimists at all cost" crowd that will once again be eating crow.

Me personally? I'd love to eat crow when the leafs win a series in June. LOVE to.

This thread was premature.
Man, what a sourpuss. Just how many freezer loads of waffles did you actually buy?
 
Great thread Gary.

I've done my share of shitting on the team but it's out of frustration. When you've been ride or die with this team for this long this team really pushed your sanity to the limits.

I think all of the criticisms you brought up did have a degree of validity to them though - and there was nothing wrong with having simple discussion about them. It's when folks who care more about their agenda than the team's success get involved in these discussions is where they turn toxic.

That being said I'm more than happy to put all that bullshit aside.
Thanks! Toxic is indeed the word, there's been so much toxic nonsense here over the last few years. Time to put it all aside, seems like most people are taking this thread in the spirit it was intended and most of us can put our differences aside and support the team as one unit. GLG!!

If you've been talking trash about the team up until last night's win, you're going to have to take it a bit on the chin today....

Yes it's fair to say that the jobs not over, and it's technically only one round, but literally not a single fan should care about that on today of all days lol
Yup. Take it on the chin but in a positive way. All in good fun. :)

Nothing's over, we're just getting started but winning a series is always worth celebrating and today is certainly the day to just enjoy the moment.

What a beautiful day it is! Anyone planning on catching the Florida game later? ;)
 
No shit the bar is low. I find fans that expect this team to magically be able to win the cup to be the most irrational of the group. The odds of any team winning the cup is already statistically low.

Then you add on we haven’t even won a playoff series in 19 years. You can’t go from never winning a series to setting the bar at a cup. You need to establish a pattern of round wins as the bar. I’d love for the leafs to make a final but I’d be happy with 2 round wins because we know how difficult that is.

There is nothing wrong with celebrating the small victories. As a fanbase we deserve it, we have gone through hell the last 20 years.
And this is the reason why this thread is ridiculous. I’ve been a Leaf fan since the 80’s, seen good and bad. This version is by far the most frustrating. The point is, it shouldn’t have taken this long to win a round. I’m elated that they did, but I also get why people are cautious about this team. There is no eating crow in my opinion.
 
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