Crow is served, come and get it!

[Puckstuff]

Here's what i've questioned

1. Keefe as a coach: I do hold the belief Keefe was out coached for a good part of the series. His roster is far, far superior to Cooper. The Leafs really are more talented then Tampa this season imo.

2. I stated Rielly is a #2-3 OFD - I think he's playing like a #1 but he's somewhere in the range of a #2-3 most of the time. But no doubt his form looks like a #1. If he keeps it up for the whole playoffs, I'll be happy to say i'm wrong on this one.

3. Tavares as a winger - I still think he would be better off as a winger. He's a weapon offensively. Not sure about his defensive coverage moving forward against FLA/Boston. But if he starts at C with Marner it's not to big of a problem. It's more of a problem on the road when he plays with Nylander. But i'm glad Keefe fixed this.

I do think this team can win if given average coaching and the lines make sense i.e not playing Holl over Lilly and not putting Tavares-Nylander together and avoiding match ups that lead to Tavares getting torched vs the other teams top lines.

I think there's a medium between make fair criticisms and sin. But no doubt some takes on here are just out right slander.

 

[Buds17]

Since my prediction was Leafs in seven, they saved me a lot of angst by wrapping the series up in six games! I had my gripe here (Rielly-Schenn pairing) and there (ROR at 3C), but I think we can all agree that there's nothing wrong about the team we cheer for advancing to the next round for the first time in a long time!

 

[Morbo]

Can’t agree more with this. Apparently you can’t criticize a team you cheer for, but can create nonsense threads like this when they finally win 1 round, nothing more, the bar is low.

you can't have it both ways.

when they lose, oh they're doomed and totally unable to win a first round forever, oh my god they can't win a first round, LOL the Leafs are automatic losers of the first round

but when they finally win, it's oh it's only a first round, it means nothing

Look at the bright side.

Under this core, you've gone from being 0% accurate in your playoff series predictions to 16%. A slight improvement, right? Hold your head up high.

I feel a bit bad from dropping from 100% accurate playoff predictions to just a mere 84%. I guess I should eat crow.

At any rate, I predict a playoff series win against Panthers, and loss against Bruins.

playoff series predictions?

what are you talking about?

 

[therealkoho]

There were some premature takes floating around

There always is, it is after all LeaFland Salty!

In the first game of the year the Leafs lost the opening face off and that's when I heard the first " can't even win a f/o this team is going nowhere they suck" kind of comment.

What got me was the negativity going into the OT, I don't know if that was people trying to get their reverse jinx on or something, but they will probably say that it was.

Any way it was a great series and the fans on both sides sure got their money's worth. The Leafs while they didn't dominate, stood up to Tampas physical onslaught and handed out a lot of black and blue themselves.

 

[GoonieFace]

you can't have it both ways.

when they lose, oh they're doomed and totally unable to win a first round forever, oh my god they can't win a first round, LOL the Leafs are automatic losers of the first round

but when they finally win, it's oh it's only a first round, it means nothing

It absolutely means nothing. The failures have been so spectacular the past 6 years or so, there is an illusion that winning a round changes this. I doubt the players think they have accomplished anything significant at this point.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

you can't have it both ways.

when they lose, oh they're doomed and totally unable to win a first round forever, oh my god they can't win a first round, LOL the Leafs are automatic losers of the first round

but when they finally win, it's oh it's only a first round, it means nothing



playoff series predictions?

what are you talking about?

Many Oilers fans were critical of their gm for not being able to build a winner around McDrai.

Do you think their fans have (lol) eat crow threads after winning round ONE? We look so silly.

 

[MCR74]

Man, I'd hate to be this miserable in life.

 

[LeafChief]

Imagine bragging in an anonymous online forum about your 'playoff prediction percentage' because you're upset that the team you pretend to cheer for won a playoff series.

 

[MCR74]

Imagine bragging in an anonymous online forum about your 'playoff prediction percentage' because you're upset that the team you pretend to cheer for won a playoff series.

I stand by my reasoning that if the Leafs ever win a cup, plenty on HF will commit suicide, including a few on this forum.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Can I get just a single wing as takeout?

I might have been skeptical of Keefe once or twice....

I must admit, I've been sticking up for him most of the time but got kind of fed up with him myself recently. I think he deserves some props though, so many were ridiculing his lineups, especially the 7 Dmen lineups and wanted him to just pick his 6 Dmen and get them used to playing with each other and so on. But last night he went with 7 Dmen like I hoped he would, he played Gusty which was a brave move (and he played pretty good I thought) and I thought he handled the game pretty well. I don't think he's a great coach, but I think he's a lot better than some people give him credit for. And hey see that goalie Samsonov over there? That coach standing next to him is a good coach!

First of all, neither side is right; you’re supposed to constructively criticize and you’re also supposed to find positives while showing support. I have no doubt that there are posters here, alleged Leafs fans, who weren’t even happy to win last night, and this should be solely directed at them. That said, this thread comes across extremely self righteous — people who want the team to win or lose to prove a point are exactly the same person on different sides of the spectrum.

TLDR; I hate both sides of the extremes.

For what it’s worth, I like you as a poster, but after a huge win last night, this isn’t what I expected to see on here.

I can only assume that you can't even begin to imagine how often some of us have been insulted and ridiculed by people who have been insisting that this team has no chance whatsoever at winning a playoff series. There are even those who have said they are hoping we lose really badly just to ensure that Dubas and Keefe are gone next season.

Anyhow, take this thread in the spirit it's intended to be in. It's meant to be in good humor and I'm just saying to everyone that's said stupid things in the past that it's OK, no harm in saying you were wrong, consider this thread an olive branch, jump on the bandwagon and let's all be friends again. This is a day to be happy, and at the very least take a break from insulting people who's POV's are different than ours.

 

[therealkoho]

Can’t agree more with this. Apparently you can’t criticize a team you cheer for, but can create nonsense threads like this when they finally win 1 round, nothing more, the bar is low.

I don't read other teams threads a whole lot because who has the time really, but I can't see them as being the vitriol filled negativity as are any normal everyday Leafs threads. You want to know what nonsense is, just open up any thread, even what are supposed to be the feelgood threads aren't immune to some bs someone will bring up about something that has no relation or bearing on the subject matter. I'm not sure how people can't see how f***ibg tiring and old that gets, especially when it's coming from supposedly mature and reasoning adults, who turn into frightened needy children at the first signs of adversity.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

I stand by my reasoning that if the Leafs ever win a cup, plenty on HF will commit suicide, including a few on this forum.

No need for this.

 

[GoonieFace]

Imagine bragging in an anonymous online forum about your 'playoff prediction percentage' because you're upset that the team you pretend to cheer for won a playoff series.

Imagine being a fan of a team that has become a running joke and hasn’t won a playoff series in 19 years, and after winning one series, acting like they won the Stanley Cup

 

[MCR74]

Imagine being a fan of a team that has become a running joke and hasn’t won a playoff series in 19 years, and after winning one series, acting like they won the Stanley Cup

Now imagine whining about it.

 

[zoA]

I must admit, I've been sticking up for him most of the time but got kind of fed up with him myself recently. I think he deserves some props though, so many were ridiculing his lineups, especially the 7 Dmen lineups and wanted him to just pick his 6 Dmen and get them used to playing with each other and so on. But last night he went with 7 Dmen like I hoped he would, he played Gusty which was a brave move (and he played pretty good I thought) and I thought he handled the game pretty well. I don't think he's a great coach, but I think he's a lot better than some people give him credit for. And hey see that goalie Samsonov over there? That coach standing next to him is a good coach!


I can only assume that you can't even begin to imagine how often some of us have been insulted and ridiculed by people who have been insisting that this team has no chance whatsoever at winning a playoff series. There are even those who have said they are hoping we lose really badly just to ensure that Dubas and Keefe are gone next season.

Anyhow, take this thread in the spirit it's intended to be in. It's meant to be in good humor and I'm just saying to everyone that's said stupid things in the past that it's OK, no harm in saying you were wrong, consider this thread an olive branch, jump on the bandwagon and let's all be friends again. This is a day to be happy, and at the very least take a break from insulting people who's POV's are different than ours.

That’s fair, my apologies — I interpreted it the wrong way. Trust me, I understand everything from your side and it’s one of the major reasons I rarely post here and have so many people on ignore. Last night was incredible and I can’t wait to feel even better when we win the next round! Cheers.

 

[saltming]

There always is, it is after all LeaFland Salty!

In the first game of the year the Leafs lost the opening face off and that's when I heard the first " can't even win a f/o this team is going nowhere they suck" kind of comment.

What got me was the negativity going into the OT, I don't know if that was people trying to get their reverse jinx on or something, but they will probably say that it was.

Any way it was a great series and the fans on both sides sure got their money's worth. The Leafs while they didn't dominate, stood up to Tampas physical onslaught and handed out a lot of black and blue themselves.

Reading some of the posts it reminded me that there are lots of posters that were kids when the Leafs last won a series, so I'm more understanding of the defeatist attitude, but at the same time, speaking of the playoffs only, you could tell this team was different, at least I could. Doesn't mean they were gaurenteed victory, but it's not the definition of insanity. They were doing something different so I expected something different

 

[Guided by Veseys]

I’ve been really hard on Justin Holl but the leafs just won the series so I have to admit that he really is a great defenceman and I’ve been a bit harsh.

Also, I guess Zeke was always right about everything after all so I’ll eat crow for that too.

 

[Morbo]

It absolutely means nothing. The failures have been so spectacular the past 6 years or so, there is an illusion that winning a round changes this. I doubt the players think they have accomplished anything significant at this point.

what are you talking about.

they literally won a first round.

it's over.

there is no illusion.

 

[saltming]

The bar is embarrassingly low. The main boards are going to mock leaf fans thoroughly for this.

Other teams fans do eat crow threads after cup wins, not winning round one.

This thread is spicific for the fans saying the team wouldn't win the first round for whatever reason.
Pretty specific to this series only

 

[Morbo]

Many Oilers fans were critical of their gm for not being able to build a winner around McDrai.

Do you think their fans have (lol) eat crow threads after winning round ONE? We look so silly.

you're angry because people are happy about the reversal of the exact thing that was harped on and made a big deal about.

this makes no sense whatsoever.

some people look silly here, but it's not Leaf fans.

 

[Gary Nylund]

That’s fair, my apologies — I interpreted it the wrong way. Trust me, I understand everything from your side and it’s one of the major reasons I rarely post here and have so many people on ignore. Last night was incredible and I can’t wait to feel even better when we win the next round! Cheers.

No need to apologize.

 

[HockeyVirus]

No crow for me thanks. I spent all season arguing on these boards and the mains the Leafs are special and would get it done.

Remember when we had a bad 15 games to start the season and everyone had to be fired? Yeah that was laughable. Was trying to calm the fire on here saying we did it the year before and people were losing their shit.

Remember when we sucked post TDL and people said this team was not winning anything?

Hell remember after every loss it was proof we would lose in round 1?

Remember when we lost game 1?

Yeah, we may not win the cup but we certainly can. GLG

 

[TheGreenTBer]

The bar is embarrassingly low. The main boards are going to mock leaf fans thoroughly for this.

Other teams fans do eat crow threads after cup wins, not winning round one.

Just my opinion, but no one here should give the slightest f*** what anyone on the main boards thinks. Many of those people are going to hate you guys/girls/people whatever you do, don't waste energy trying to please them.

 

[therealkoho]

Many Oilers fans were critical of their gm for not being able to build a winner around McDrai.

Do you think their fans have (lol) eat crow threads after winning round ONE? We look so silly.

Critical? It goes far beyond the simple bounds of such a small word with that narrow of scope.

I think the crow pie is one that has been baking with all the love spread out over the last 25 internet seasons, all the ridiculous expressions of angst created and expressed over the very first signs of adversity.

It isn't just for one series. It's for all the "I told you so's" after Leafs losses, I mean truly, there are people here who take some kind of masochistic pleasure and some weird kind of schadenfreude in their own teams losses and failures.

Can you imagine if somebody in your own dressing room after a loss said "I knew we were going to lose," or even worse before puck drop was bigfooting around and saying "we stink there's no way we can win!" Holy old f*** man you'd toss the dude out the back door and you wouldn't allow them around the team ever again.

 

[Le Magnifique]

I said curses are real. I'm sorry. Pass the low sodium crow.