OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19): Part VII - READ THE OP

[sbjnyc]

When the virus first hit the country HARD, my wife was in her final few months of med school and basically got told to stay home just so the attendings/residents/nurses could work the pandemic, as they had no time to train students who were still doing rotations pre-matching.

My nephew was in med school at the time but Cuomo drafted med students in a state facility to work during the pandemic. I don't recall the details but there was a lawsuit over this which was resolved. That said he thinks he got a good match due to his experience.

 

[Synergy27]

I haven’t seen any published data on this, but what’s a cloth mask equivalent to? Like an N50? Probably higher? Well worth the “inconvenience” to wear, and certainly effective enough to warrant using.

I for one am happy that mask wearing has been normalized. Germaphobes unite.

 

[BBKers]

Politics suck… kinda like K-Mart does. Now ban me Please

 

[Peltz]

When the virus first hit the country HARD, my wife was in her final few months of med school and basically got told to stay home just so the attendings/residents/nurses could work the pandemic, as they had no time to train students who were still doing rotations pre-matching.

Her father, who was working in the ED at a hospital near where we lived, had to stop by our apartment to pick up our surplus mask storage (since we were both in lockdown) because every doctor at his hospital (in a main Queens hospital, mind you), had to FREAKIN' AUTOCLAVE their masks daily, and their beds were always backlogged.

This was my wife's experience too in her hospital in Northern NJ. Also my sister's at a major NYC hospital, and two other doctors I know at other hospital systems in NYC.

In Florida, a resident I know is g0ing through hell there too.

Sure, in Pennsylvania, I know a few residents who have not experienced this sort of thing. Some areas have been lucky, others have been devastated at various points. But I don't see any reason to downplay these things as anecdotes (not aimed at the guy I'm quoting) when it's all well covered in the news.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If you look at my posts, I said that we should all get the vax.
Let's be clear though, even in NYC, they were never in danger of running out of beds. There were overflow facilities that were barely used.

which facilities in particular are you talking about? Because I’m calling every flavor of bullshit on this.

 

[The S5]

which facilities in particular are you talking about? Because I’m calling every flavor of bullshit on this.

Javitz, Navy Ship, Old Westbury, Stony Brook. Maybe Cuomo should have sent the seniors to one of these facilities instead of back into the nursing homes.

 

[sbjnyc]

Javitz, Navy Ship, Old Westbury, Stony Brook. Maybe Cuomo should have sent the seniors to one of these facilities instead of back into the nursing homes.

The 1,000-Bed Comfort Was Supposed to Aid New York. It Has 20 Patients. (Published 2020)

 

[Gardner McKay]

FDA approval means little to those who've already dug in their heels. The agency has been politicized beyond point of return and enough distrust has been sowed.

For sure. I absolutely agree. Nothing is going to change their mind. I had a (brief) conversation with someone over the weekend who called those who took the vaccine lab rats. Yeah, if you are that kind of extreme than the FDA approval won't change your mind.

But again, that isn't how FDA approval will help IMO. Full FDA approval will mean that a significant number of companies, school systems, etc. will have their legal department give the green light for requiring the vaccine for employment. It is a step in making life difficult for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

 

[sbjnyc]

For sure. I absolutely agree. Nothing is going to change their mind. I had a (brief) conversation with someone over the weekend who called those who took the vaccine lab rats. Yeah, if you are that kind of extreme than the FDA approval won't change your mind.

But again, that isn't how FDA approval will help IMO. Full FDA approval will mean that a significant number of companies, school systems, etc. will have their legal department give the green light for requiring the vaccine for employment. It is a step in making life difficult for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

I think the supreme court already gave the green light, though perhaps it only impacts at will employees.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I think the supreme court already gave the green light, though perhaps it only impacts at will employees.

I don't remember the context of that decision tbh. But at an event recently, discussing strategy with other companies in our field, most are waiting for the official FDA approval before requiring it for employees. We could require it now with minimal risk from what I have been told but the risk essentially drops to zero after the full approval.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I have a question for those that are willing to share...

If you have had covid, at least 12 months ago, are you still struggling with any breathing issues?

I am and I feel like its just slowly getting worse, not better.

 

[will1066]

I have a question for those that are willing to share...

If you have had covid, at least 12 months ago, are you still struggling with any breathing issues?

I am and I feel like its just slowly getting worse, not better.

Sorry to hear you're dealing with this.

 

[duhmetreE]

I have a question for those that are willing to share...

If you have had covid, at least 12 months ago, are you still struggling with any breathing issues?

I am and I feel like its just slowly getting worse, not better.

you take any steroids?

 

[Gardner McKay]

you take any steroids?

Not for this specifically but, I had bronchitis about 6 months ago and they gave me steroids then. Unfortunately, didn't do much.

 

[eco's bones]

Carlos Sanchez the Director of Public Affairs in Hidalgo County Texas says that of the current hospitalized covid population in his county 125 out of 425 are 11 years old or younger. That’s right about 30% of the hospitalized. This covid Delta variant is attacking under 65’s a lot harder than any of the preceding variants.

 

[eco's bones]

I don't remember the context of that decision tbh. But at an event recently, discussing strategy with other companies in our field, most are waiting for the official FDA approval before requiring it for employees. We could require it now with minimal risk from what I have been told but the risk essentially drops to zero after the full approval.

That’s interesting and makes sense to why some companies are waiting.

 

[Bluto]

Carlos Sanchez the Director of Public Affairs in Hidalgo County Texas says that of the current hospitalized covid population in his county 125 out of 425 are 11 years old or younger. That’s right about 30% of the hospitalized. This covid Delta variant is attacking under 65’s a lot harder than any of the preceding variants.

Gotta assume a lot of those are migrants. and the numbers out of Israel and Iceland are real disconcerting when it comes to vaccinated getting extremely sick.
The only way forward is learning to live with the virus unfortunately. Its endemic now like the cold and flu. The vaccines will probably be annual like the flu vaccine and sometimes youll get it and sometimes you wont.

 

[eco's bones]

Javitz, Navy Ship, Old Westbury, Stony Brook. Maybe Cuomo should have sent the seniors to one of these facilities instead of back into the nursing homes.

You can subtract the Navy hospital ship Comfort from your list. It was not sent to NYC to treat covid patients. It was sent to take non-covid spillover patients when area hospitals were being overwhelmed with covid patients.

Part of the issue at the time was the Navy’s concern that covid thrived on metal surfaces and what a ship is constructed out of is steel and more steel, steel everywhere.

 

[Fireonk]

For sure. I absolutely agree. Nothing is going to change their mind. I had a (brief) conversation with someone over the weekend who called those who took the vaccine lab rats. Yeah, if you are that kind of extreme than the FDA approval won't change your mind.

But again, that isn't how FDA approval will help IMO. Full FDA approval will mean that a significant number of companies, school systems, etc. will have their legal department give the green light for requiring the vaccine for employment. It is a step in making life difficult for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

Yup, my wife's hospital sent out an email that basically said that as soon as it gets FDA approval it will be mandatory for all employees.

 

[NYR Viper]

Does anyone have any info on studies done as to how many people they actually project to have it or have had it over the last 6 months? I say this because we all know some people with it have no symptoms or mild symptoms and just care for themselves at home. I would venture a guess that somewhere has an approximate percentage of people in addition to what is being reported.

 

[duhmetreE]

Not for this specifically but, I had bronchitis about 6 months ago and they gave me steroids then. Unfortunately, didn't do much.

I have a family member staying with me currently. He was suffering from long covid. He has had difficulty breathing and inflammation.

He was prescribed a 'shock/bomb' of steroids. ( predisone ). He started with a LARGE daily dose, then went down 10mg daily until it runs out. FAIR WARNING, this amount of steroids will all but guarantee destroying your sleep. Even when it runs out there will counter effects. It's been roughly a 2week process.

He's finally feeling better. He's also been on an anti-inflammatory diet.

This is completely anecdotal. This isn't advice. Ask your doctor if it's something that can work.

 

[Taluss]

I have a question for those that are willing to share...

If you have had covid, at least 12 months ago, are you still struggling with any breathing issues?

I am and I feel like its just slowly getting worse, not better.

Breathing issues such as tightness in chest, sometimes not being able to breath in as much as you should be able to?
As a side question what about during physical activity, is your hr is higher than it should be and can you can feel your heart pounding in a weird way?

Regardless id just get it checked out especially since you said its getting worse. Its worth a day of your time even if they say its absolutely nothing. At least you will be sure.

I hope all gets better! Best of luck.

 

[BBKers]

I have a question for those that are willing to share...
If you have had covid, at least 12 months ago, are you still struggling with any breathing issues?
I am and I feel like its just slowly getting worse, not better.

I had it in September/October last year. Its effect on me was miraculously a milder variant. I had some problems after the first jab in May,nbut am generally pretty OK. My wife was not so fortunate. She was hospitalized in intensive care and still has all kinds of post CoVid symptoms including breathing difficulties. She was 39 at the time. My youngest daughter Aurora was 3 when she got infected together with us. She had it for 7 weeks. I am not going to talk about the effects on her because it both saddens and troubles me. Terrible disease.

 

[romba]

Gotta assume a lot of those are migrants. and the numbers out of Israel and Iceland are real disconcerting when it comes to vaccinated getting extremely sick.
The only way forward is learning to live with the virus unfortunately. Its endemic now like the cold and flu. The vaccines will probably be annual like the flu vaccine and sometimes youll get it and sometimes you wont.

Huh? Where'd you see that about breakthrough infections leading to high numbers of hospitalizations? More than alpha variant sure, but data from England and Israel suggests the vaccine is still roughly 95% effective at preventing hospitalizations, not great at preventing symptomatic infections though. Not the 99% that it was for the alpha variant, but still pretty damn good.

Here's Why Getting Vaccinated Wasn't a Waste, Despite Delta Variant, Breakthrough Cases

Kids who can't get the vaccine and immunocompromised are the primary concern. Also effectiveness seems to wane starting at 6 months. Ppl who opt not to get vaccinated have to lay in the bed they made, I feel bad for the folks who are treating them.

 

[eco's bones]

On the subject of having had covid and now having covid antibodies. That is an unknown area too and might vary from person to person. If you’re refusing to get a vaccine and depending on these antibodies to keep you safe you’re gambling on the unknown. Those antibodies may be with you a long while and they may not. The best and safest thing to do is to get vaccinated.