OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19): Part V

[Machinehead]

Can you give an example of job titles of these individuals? Maybe I can forget my business and do what they do lol. I would like to twiddle my thumbs and make 6 figures the easy way

Their actual titles include:

-Chancellor
-Provost
-Vice Chancellor
-Executive Vice Chancellor
-General Council (wow this one sounds super important!)
-Senior Vice Chancellor
-Interim Vice Chancellor (yes, we have all four)
-Senior Advisor to the chancellor
-Vice Chancellor and CFO (oh boy, another one of these guys!)
-Chief of Staff
-Secretary of the Board

Their duties include:

-Laying people off
-Signing emails they didn't write
-Complaining
-Delegating duties

 

[Barnaby]

I see some people are realizing it may not be so great to keep the whole Country closed down long term. People's lives and families will be destroyed.

I’m glad I’m not making the decisions here. Eventually difficult decisions will have to made and it will cost lives one way or the other. Some parts of the country should be opened, but a place like NY is tough. If you open things up then it’s likely to blow up again. However, you can’t just close NYC for 2 years. I don’t think Cuomo or Trump want to make that decision. Things aren’t going to go perfectly and they stand to take a ton of heat.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I hope your comment has nothing to do with mine above. The average person(s) can not effect what I was referring to.

Nope, it wasn't.

 

[Ola]

Their actual titles include:

-Chancellor
-Provost
-Vice Chancellor
-Executive Vice Chancellor
-General Council (wow this one sounds super important!)
-Senior Vice Chancellor
-Interim Vice Chancellor (yes, we have all four)
-Senior Advisor to the chancellor
-Vice Chancellor and CFO (oh boy, another one of these guys!)
-Chief of Staff
-Secretary of the Board

Their duties include:

-Laying people off
-Signing emails they didn't write
-Complaining
-Delegating duties

Provost would definitely pass as both a first or second name of a Czech hockey player.

 

[Ola]

Their actual titles include:

-Chancellor
-Provost
-Vice Chancellor
-Executive Vice Chancellor
-General Council (wow this one sounds super important!)
-Senior Vice Chancellor
-Interim Vice Chancellor (yes, we have all four)
-Senior Advisor to the chancellor
-Vice Chancellor and CFO (oh boy, another one of these guys!)
-Chief of Staff
-Secretary of the Board

Their duties include:

-Laying people off
-Signing emails they didn't write
-Complaining
-Delegating duties

Seriously though, financial research has made some fantastic work the last decades solving real issues. But on my short list of fields they should put their teeth into — “institutions“ comes high up lol (or like handling the problems at institutions).

A clear No 1 on the same short list is buyer and seller (external investor/current shareholders) agreeing on the price of a company during recession. It’s half absurd how big impact turmoil has. If times are good people look at the profits of a company, puts a multiplier on it, and agree on a price and make a deal.

In bad times the seller looks at the current value and say that ‘it is of course a bit low, can only go up’ and the buyer looks at the current value and say ‘nobody else are buying right now so we want a good discount’ and you get no deals. None.

Any economic students out there? How hard can it be, fix if!

 

[IronBloodedLion]

I’m very curious to see what the world is going to look like as we start to roll back some of these restrictions. I have so many questions that really only time is going to tell.

Whats going to happen to the restaurant industry? What are they going to do to limit their capacity? And whose really going to want to go out to a restaurant or bar right now?

What’s going to happen with offices? Are companies going to just keep people working from home?

What’s going to happen to real estate as businesses close for good, there are empty offices, and city dwellers decide maybe they’d rather flock to the comfort and safety of the suburbs?

Are some of these lost jobs just never coming back? Aside from losing their pay, suddenly people are also losing their health insurance when they’re in a time where they need it the most. Not to get political, but could suddenly UBI and Single Payer Healthcare become more of a reality as we look for solutions?

How will testing people handled going forward? Testing, contact tracing, and isolation are incredibly important towards getting the country up and moving again, and with some people being asymptomatic carriers, will periodic testing possible become a normal going forward?

 

[eco's bones]

I’m very curious to see what the world is going to look like as we start to roll back some of these restrictions. I have so many questions that really only time is going to tell.

Whats going to happen to the restaurant industry? What are they going to do to limit their capacity? And whose really going to want to go out to a restaurant or bar right now?

What’s going to happen with offices? Are companies going to just keep people working from home?

What’s going to happen to real estate as businesses close for good, there are empty offices, and city dwellers decide maybe they’d rather flock to the comfort and safety of the suburbs?

Are some of these lost jobs just never coming back? Aside from losing their pay, suddenly people are also losing their health insurance when they’re in a time where they need it the most. Not to get political, but could suddenly UBI and Single Payer Healthcare become more of a reality as we look for solutions?

How will testing people handled going forward? Testing, contact tracing, and isolation are incredibly important towards getting the country up and moving again, and with some people being asymptomatic carriers, will periodic testing possible become a normal going forward?

It is going to be interesting--revenues to the federal, state and local governments are going to be down for a while. Millions of jobs are going to be lost. People unable to pay their rent, mortgages, student debt--you can't throw millions all out on the street with no roof over their head and no food to eat. From an apartment building landlord's perspective evicting someone for nonpayment of rent but then he has to find someone in an absolutely depressed economy where millions are all of a sudden out of work to replace the one he's evicted. If there's millions without wherewithal that's he ends up with a half empty building and meanwhile the homeless population explodes and meanwhile to keep from emptying his building that landlord is going to have to work with others. So yeah ideas like UBI should be explored as well as debt forgiveness.

Cuomo made the comment yesterday that Covid-19 got on a plane and flew here--he's speaking to future pandemics and the movement patterns of global citizenry. That these things will be in the future almost unavoidable which also speaks to a need for single payer health care that covers every citizen. You can't have large %'s of the population without health care and unable to afford and/or unwilling to get medical help when they need it. We can't have price gouging pharmaceutical multinationals or hospital systems either.

 

[Synergy27]

This is not defending Trump. This a presumption that depsite all of the ill will towards him, I would ass-u-me that a person appointed for any position would be vetted. That is just common sense to any position anywhere.

My example of a CEO was to show that their purpose may be. In my experience, business CEOs understand what needs to get done and how to do it better than most politicians.

One other thought about this. I agree with you that there is a lot of ill will towards Trump. I disagree with you that it’s all, or mostly, unwarranted. Most of the ill will originated from the fact that he has broken so many norms. The vetting of key officials is one of the norms he has repeatedly broken. I won’t bother posting the laundry list of other things.

So, basically, you can’t have it both ways. Most of the people that support Trump do so because they like the fact that he breaks norms. “He says what’s on his mind”, etc. I am allowed to be concerned when a norm that I find important is broken. You can’t turn around and claim that norm breaker in chief is actually doing things the normal way to begin with, but everyone is just too deranged to realize it. He’s not. That’s why his supporters like him.

 

[eco's bones]

On Wikipedia today---under the heading of List of disasters in NYC by death toll--Covid 19 is currently at No. 2 with 15,432 deaths behind the 1918 Spanish flu which killed 20,403 people. I expect Covid-19 is going to easily surpass that number before this is all over. Not that far away now and with over 14000 still hospitalized (though that is a state number).

 

[eco's bones]

One other thought about this. I agree with you that there is a lot of ill will towards Trump. I disagree with you that it’s all, or mostly, unwarranted. Most of the ill will originated from the fact that he has broken so many norms. The vetting of key officials is one of the norms he has repeatedly broken. I won’t bother posting the laundry list of other things.

So, basically, you can’t have it both ways. Most of the people that support Trump do so because they like the fact that he breaks norms. “He says what’s on his mind”, etc. I am allowed to be concerned when a norm that I find important is broken. You can’t turn around and claim that norm breaker in chief is actually doing things the normal way to begin with, but everyone is just too deranged to realize it. He’s not. That’s why his supporters like him.

An excellent excellent post.

 

[Synergy27]

On Wikipedia today---under the heading of List of disasters in NYC by death toll--Covid 19 is currently at No. 2 with 15,432 deaths behind the 1918 Spanish flu which killed 20,403 people. I expect Covid-19 is going to easily surpass that number before this is all over. Not that far away now and with over 14000 still hospitalized (though that is a state number).

Very interesting, scary, and awful. Curious though, do we know how it ranks in terms of population percentage?

 

[Leetch3]

not good news for those hoping to end this asap

https://nypost.com/2020/04/25/no-evidence-recovered-coronavirus-patients-are-immune-who/

No evidence exists that people who have recovered from the coronavirus are protected from reinfection, even if they have antibodies, the World Health Organization said Saturday.
The warning from the U.N.’s health arm runs counter to what many survivors thought could be their ticket to freedom from COVID-19 lockdowns.

“Some governments have suggested that the detection of antibodies … could serve as the basis for an ‘immunity passport’ or ‘risk-free certificate,'” the WHO said.

“There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection.”

of course no evidence doesn't mean its not true there is just no proof with it that would let officials open up purely based on test results.

 

[Off Sides]

Captain obvious speaking,

The internet is going to play a huge part in how life changes. It already has since it's inception, yet I can not see how it does not become way more ingrained.

There is something to be said for face to face meetings, there is some value there which may not be totally replaceable in some circumstances, yet I think people/companies/etc are adapting and will continue to do so more towards something like, let's get this done, can we do it online somehow?

Of course that will not work for many industries. However I could also foresee "robots, artificial intelligence" taking on a much greater role.

China: the most promising industries after the coronavirus outbreak 2020 | Statista

 

[eco's bones]

Very interesting, scary, and awful. Curious though, do we know how it ranks in terms of population percentage?

The population in 1910 was 4,776,83 and in 1920 was 5,620,048--so a guess would be between 5.3 and 5.4 million.

New York, New York and the 1918-1919 Influenza Epidemic | The American Influenza Epidemic of 1918: A Digital Encyclopedia

Look at all the photos of people wearing masks. An interesting story to read too. It's almost deja vu arguments going on here right now.

Effective doses from panoramic radiography and CBCT (cone beam CT) using dose area product (DAP) in dentistry

 

[MyLoveIsBlue]

Captain obvious speaking,

The internet is going to play a huge part in how life changes. It already has since it's inception, yet I can not see how it does not become way more ingrained.

There is something to be said for face to face meetings, there is some value there which may not be totally replaceable in some circumstances, yet I think people/companies/etc are adapting and will continue to do so more towards something like, let's get this done, can we do it online somehow?

Of course that will not work for many industries. However I could also foresee "robots, artificial intelligence" taking on a much greater role.

China: the most promising industries after the coronavirus outbreak 2020 | Statista

The growth of the internet was not obvious to the brilliant Paul Krugman.
Did Paul Krugman Say the Internet's Effect on the World Economy Would Be 'No Greater Than the Fax Machine's'?

 

[Krams]

 

[NYRFAN218]

not good news for those hoping to end this asap

https://nypost.com/2020/04/25/no-evidence-recovered-coronavirus-patients-are-immune-who/



of course no evidence doesn't mean its not true there is just no proof with it that would let officials open up purely based on test results.

I don't like the way that's worded at all by them. The way I've interpreted it so far from everything that's been reported is that the level of antibodies from person to person will vary depending on their infection. There's obviously questions about how much immunity and how long it lasts that people will have to get to the bottom of but just to give a blanket statement of "no evidence of immunity" seems disingenuous. You may not have full immunity but you'd have to imagine, at least in the short term, that someone who has had the virus previously has less of a chance of getting it again or a better chance of fighting it next time compared to someone who hasn't had it at all.

 

[Leetch3]

I don't like the way that's worded at all by them. The way I've interpreted it so far from everything that's been reported is that the level of antibodies from person to person will vary depending on their infection. There's obviously questions about how much immunity and how long it lasts that people will have to get to the bottom of but just to give a blanket statement of "no evidence of immunity" seems disingenuous. You may not have full immunity but you'd have to imagine, at least in the short term, that someone who has had the virus previously has less of a chance of getting it again or a better chance of fighting it next time compared to someone who hasn't had it at all.

what you imagine and what seems 100% logical isn't evidence of immunity...many people are looking toward herd immunity as the way to get back to normal and they are saying so far there is no evidence of it. i'm not sure how that is disingenuous if thats what their studies show so far then thats what they show. hopefully over time this will be proven untrue and there will be evidence but right now they are saying that people that have recovered shouldn't assume they are in the clear and not take precautions.

if there is science to refute that right now i'm sure it will come out. but 'i don't think that sounds right' doesn't refute the science they have right now

 

[bobbop]

Based on some of the comments I’ve read here, there is not much understanding about what big inflation would do to society.

 

[Synergy27]

The population in 1910 was 4,776,83 and in 1920 was 5,620,048--so a guess would be between 5.3 and 5.4 million.

New York, New York and the 1918-1919 Influenza Epidemic | The American Influenza Epidemic of 1918: A Digital Encyclopedia

Look at all the photos of people wearing masks. An interesting story to read too. It's almost deja vu arguments going on here right now.

Effective doses from panoramic radiography and CBCT (cone beam CT) using dose area product (DAP) in dentistry

Interesting stuff! Appreciate the share.

 

[Metranger]

This is very good:

 

[Synergy27]

Sooooo... now the President is saying that his comments about UV and disinfectant were actually a sarcastic question being asked to the dishonest reporters in the room. Here’s a golden opportunity for folks who think his response has been good and are evaluating things objectively to stand up and call it like it is. Anyone willing to admit that he’s lying and desperately looking for a way out of this? Anyone willing to defend him with something other than “well, what he meant to say was...”?

This is actually happening folks.

 

[Metranger]

Sooooo... now the President is saying that his comments about UV and disinfectant were actually a sarcastic question being asked to the dishonest reporters in the room. Here’s a golden opportunity for folks who think his response has been good and are evaluating things objectively to stand up and call it like it is. Anyone willing to admit that he’s lying and desperately looking for a way out of this? Anyone willing to defend him with something other than “well, what he meant to say was...”?

This is actually happening folks.

Did Trump Suggest Injecting Disinfectants as COVID-19 Treatment?

 

[GoAwayGiannone]

Sooooo... now the President is saying that his comments about UV and disinfectant were actually a sarcastic question being asked to the dishonest reporters in the room. Here’s a golden opportunity for folks who think his response has been good and are evaluating things objectively to stand up and call it like it is. Anyone willing to admit that he’s lying and desperately looking for a way out of this? Anyone willing to defend him with something other than “well, what he meant to say was...”?

This is actually happening folks.

My uncle is posting on facebook about how he was talking about a specific procedure.

How Donald Trump of all people know enough about this treatment but cant be any more articulate about it other than "inject disinfectant and UV light" is beyond me. But they are defending him. Which I'm not surprised about unfortunately.

 

[Tawnos]

My uncle is posting on facebook about how he was talking about a specific procedure. View attachment 343572
How Donald Trump of all people know enough about this treatment but cant be any more articulate about it other than "inject disinfectant and UV light" is beyond me. But they are defending him. Which I'm not surprised about unfortunately.

Doesn't pass the smell test. If that's what he was talking about, why claim it was sarcasm?