Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Part XII

[Gabriel426]

We were offering Full time with OT available if you wanted the work. As a major employer I can tell you the work ethic that we had 40 years ago is not existent. the new generation will always take the path of least stress vs a little stress. my daughter took a pay cut of 17k just for less stress. I can't fault her for putting her mental health ahead of the all mighty dollar but at the same time, the days of go getters seems to have passed.

That I agree. To me, the new generations believe they are smarter than anyone and won't put in the hard works. This is all from my own experiences, they only want to do enough to get by and when they think they deserve a raise or promotion, they will speak up about it. Took me a while to learn how to deal with them.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

was in Venezuela in '78, it was a pit.

you could see the poverty from sea.

the theft of the money wasn't from socialism it was from corruption.

They had turned it around and were a success story before Chavez.

 

[ULF_55]

They had turned it around and were a success story before Chavez.

I heard they had help losing all the oil money.

Didn't go to the people.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I heard they had help losing all the oil money.

Didn't go to the people.

Exactly what an authoritarian socialist leader would say just before nationalizing heavy industry and driving out all private capital investment and wealthy individuals (they were the first people to flee the country when they saw the writing on the wall when Chavez started to centralize power). Everything else played out exactly how it did in every other country that went down this path since the fall of 1918.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Exactly what an authoritarian socialist leader would say just before nationalizing heavy industry and driving out all private capital investment and wealthy individuals (they were the first people to flee the country when they saw the writing on the wall when Chavez started to centralize power). Everything else played out exactly how it did in every other country that went down this path since the fall of 1918.

Sorry, not exactly how it played out in every country that did this. Chavez didn't murder 10's of millions of his citizens in the process. I'll throw him that bone in the name of fairness.

 

[Canadian Finn]

many of my friends who collected cerb are those types who somehow (well, I know how but,) never paid a dollar in taxes in their adult life.

The idea that they have to pay approx 30% tax on their CERB is foreign to them. Now, the first $22K (?) earned is not taxable, (sorry, i've never earned so little that my earnings wasn't taxed), but it likely means not the entire amount of cerb collected will be taxed...

But if you worked part time, or a partial portion of the year, those earnings will be added to cerb, and quickly the overall earnings annually will be well into the taxable income threshold.

My friend who didn't work a single day during covid, and collected almost the full amount, isn't going to pay much due to the untaxable threshold. But another friend who worked 3 months, plus whatever time cerb was paid, will be well into the tax threshold, and she doesn't have a dime to pay taxes.

Her story to me was "what, what's Canada going to do? I just won't pay".

Oh to be 30 years old and dumb as bricks.

 

[ULF_55]

many of my friends who collected cerb are those types who somehow (well, I know how but,) never paid a dollar in taxes in their adult life.

The idea that they have to pay approx 30% tax on their CERB is foreign to them. Now, the first $22K (?) earned is not taxable, (sorry, i've never earned so little that my earnings wasn't taxed), but it likely means not the entire amount of cerb collected will be taxed...

But if you worked part time, or a partial portion of the year, those earnings will be added to cerb, and quickly the overall earnings annually will be well into the taxable income threshold.

My friend who didn't work a single day during covid, and collected almost the full amount, isn't going to pay much due to the untaxable threshold. But another friend who worked 3 months, plus whatever time cerb was paid, will be well into the tax threshold, and she doesn't have a dime to pay taxes.

Her story to me was "what, what's Canada going to do? I just won't pay".

Oh to be 30 years and dumb as bricks.

Have a friend, probably worked half his adult life, in his 60's, and works as much as he can/wants both above and below board.
Always gets government money, got CERB, but is headed towards retirement with probably half CPP, OAS and GIS, but nothing else.
Someone else raised his kids.
I'm sure he'll be fine and no less happy then others who've carried a full load.

 

[Muston Atthews]

Are 10 masks more effective than 9? They’re starting to hurt my face

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Here it is. Backdoor immunity passports starting everywhere.

Fully vaccinated people can skip Covid quarantines, CDC says - CNN

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Here it is. Backdoor immunity passports starting everywhere.

Fully vaccinated people can skip Covid quarantines, CDC says - CNN

Protection may wear off after three months?

 

[Polaris1010]

Colorado man living in China says 56 days in quarantine worth it | 9news.com

 

[Bluelines]

Here it is. Backdoor immunity passports starting everywhere.

Fully vaccinated people can skip Covid quarantines, CDC says - CNN

What if the vaccine is a way to exterminate the human population? An aggressive alien race is forcing our leaders to inject all of its people with a vaccine with nanobots in it, once every one is vaccinated the aliens turn on the nanobots and instantly kill everyone, leaving this planet for the dominant alien race...

Conspiracy theorist unite!!!!!

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

What if the vaccine is a way to exterminate the human population? An aggressive alien race is forcing our leaders to inject all of its people with a vaccine with nanobots in it, once every one is vaccinated the aliens turn on the nanobots and instantly kill everyone, leaving this planet for the dominant alien race...

Conspiracy theorist unite!!!!!

Ummm...OK. This is the CDC promoting a de facto immunity passport. It's not a conspiracy and it's not a theory.

 

[Bluelines]

Ummm...OK. This is the CDC promoting a de facto immunity passport. It's not a conspiracy and it's not a theory.

Pssst.. the nano bots are real... in my imagination....

 

[ULF_55]

Ummm...OK. This is the CDC promoting a de facto immunity passport. It's not a conspiracy and it's not a theory.

Is this a hardship?

A lot easier than having to clean your sidewalks within 24 hours of a snowfall, every snowfall. Of course no one is forced to buy a house. If you don't want to take care of your sidewalk don't buy a house where there are property responsibilities.

 

[ULF_55]

Here it is. Backdoor immunity passports starting everywhere.

Fully vaccinated people can skip Covid quarantines, CDC says - CNN

Of course this is not without risk, as fully vaccinated may mean annual.

 

[PuckMagi]

Colorado man living in China says 56 days in quarantine worth it | 9news.com

I think a lot of people would have preferred a strict 56 day lockdown at the beginning to eliminate the virus. A lot of people quarantined for more than 56 days anyways.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Is this a hardship?

A lot easier than having to clean your sidewalks within 24 hours of a snowfall, every snowfall. Of course no one is forced to buy a house. If you don't want to take care of your sidewalk don't buy a house where there are property responsibilities.

Not sure, was just sharing info.

 

[Nineteen67]

Here it is. Backdoor immunity passports starting everywhere.

Fully vaccinated people can skip Covid quarantines, CDC says - CNN

How do we know someone is fully vaccinated? Do they stamp your voter ID card.

 

[ULF_55]

How do we know someone is fully vaccinated? Do they stamp your voter ID card.

Probably just like drinking and driving. It is up to the individual to obey the laws, and probably thousands who don't.

I do still have my yellow vaccine card, maybe that will be like having your license with you when you drive?

 

[Nineteen67]

Are 10 masks more effective than 9? They’re starting to hurt my face

I guess this is sort of an admission that one mask doesn’t do much to prevent the spread.

 

[Nineteen67]

Probably just like drinking and driving. It is up to the individual to obey the laws, and probably thousands who don't.

I do still have my yellow vaccine card, maybe that will be like having your license with you when you drive?

Driving is a privilege. I think it would be real easy to attach it to our voter ID cards.

 

[ULF_55]

I guess this is sort of an admission that one mask doesn’t do much to prevent the spread.

From what I've heard, it is because the variant strains have been working out and are much more vigorous.

Kind of like the difference between rubbing out marner against the boards to rubbing out Tom Wilson against the boards.

 

[ULF_55]

Driving is a privilege. I think it would be real easy to attach it to our voter ID cards.

We don't have voter ID cards. I've never had a voter ID card in the last 48 years of being able to vote.

 

[Nineteen67]

From what I've heard, it is because the variant strains have been working out and are much more vigorous.

Kind of like the difference between rubbing out marner against the boards to rubbing out Tom Wilson against the boards.

Is that what they did in the UK? On Jan 7th they had 52k cases and only 12k on Feb 9.