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Confucius said:
COVID-19 case declines have 'stalled;' Ontario model says 6,000 cases a day possible by April
Gee we didn't see this coming...

The modellers suggest the relaxing of restrictions across the province in late February as well as the continued spread of the B.1.1.7 coronavirus variant is to blame for an end to declines, which researchers now believe is more deadly than earlier strains as well as being more transmissible.
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Am I the only one who thinks we are all bound to get COVID in one way or another, if we already haven't?
 
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TheTotalPackage said:
Am I the only one who thinks we are all bound to get COVID in one way or another, if we already haven't?
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More than likely but I was referring to the fact the decision makers will avoid accepting blame for a poorly laid out plan. Simply by putting blame on loosening of the rules which just took effect Monday. When their plan and the way they implemented it was failing anyway.
 
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Confucius said:
More than likely but I was referring to the fact the decision makers will avoid accepting blame for a poorly laid out plan. Simply by putting blame on loosening of the rules which just took effect Monday. When their plan and the way they implemented it was failing anyway.
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That's fair.

Although I have to chuckle at the over-estimation of the cases at each of these briefings. 6K? We didn't come close to that even when they projected 20K after the Christmas and New Year's holidays.

There will be an increase because things are a bit more open (EDIT: which the majority of people want) and people are out and about. Then they lock everyone down and the cases will decline. At which time they decide to open things up again. There seems to be a pattern here...
 
Confucius said:
COVID-19 case declines have 'stalled;' Ontario model says 6,000 cases a day possible by April
Gee we didn't see this coming...

The modellers suggest the relaxing of restrictions across the province in late February as well as the continued spread of the B.1.1.7 coronavirus variant is to blame for an end to declines, which researchers now believe is more deadly than earlier strains as well as being more transmissible.
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Yikes even best case scenario is slightly worse than our worst day in the last year.
 
I still do my part to be safe but I stopped listening to the BS a long time ago. Our governments handling of the pandemic and vaccines have been less than satisfactory.

I know it could have been a lot worse, but to he staring down the barrel at a 3rd and harsher lockdown is utter failure.
 
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It feels great to be back! Hope the Leafs can right the ship. Oh, and this.

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TopChedder said:
I still do my part to be safe but I stopped listening to the BS a long time ago. Our governments handling of the pandemic and vaccines have been less than satisfactory.

I know it could have been a lot worse, but to he staring down the barrel at a 3rd and harsher lockdown is utter failure.
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Just accentuates that they could have locked down hard the 1st time at worst the 2nd time. Ruined many people's lives for over a year now. Basically saying this time we really mean it...
 
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Honest question.

So why are all illnesses OTHER than Covid reported seasonally, but Covid is a 2 year cumulative running total....and counting?

Plus, how do we justify this rather inconvenient, but completely overlooked and unreported truth?

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kb said:
Honest question.

So why are all illnesses OTHER than Covid reported seasonally, but Covid is a 2 year cumulative running total....and counting?

Plus, how do we justify this rather inconvenient, but completely overlooked and unreported truth?

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Sigh, covid is counted on an annual basis and covid hasn't even existed for two years so don't know why you're saying it's counted biannually. But many people cite their numbers for covid up until March 2021 because that's when it was declared a global pandemic and not isolated to a couple of countries.

And just because you're unaware and/or don't care of how many people contract and die of tuberculosis annually doesn't mean that others don't or find them insignificant

And Canada gets under 2,000 cases of tuberculosis annually so it's not really a big threat to Canadian society unlike Covid where we've had 900,000 cases in a year. 0.2 in 100,000 Canadian die of TB
 
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Pink Mist said:
Sigh, covid is counted on an annual basis and covid hasn't even existed for two years so don't know why you're saying it's counted biannually. But many people cite their numbers for covid up until March 2021 because that's when it was declared a global pandemic and not isolated to a couple of countries.

And just because you're unaware and/or don't care of how many people contract and die of tuberculosis annually doesn't mean that others don't or find them insignificant

And Canada gets under 2,000 cases of tuberculosis annually so it's not really a big threat to Canadian society unlike Covid where we've had 900,000 cases in a year. 0.2 in 100,000 Canadian die of TB
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And 2%
of covid cases in Canada resulted in death.
 
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Pink Mist said:
Which is still much much higher than 0.2 in 100,000.

0.02% deaths from Covid is 1 in 50 people who get Covid dying
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That’s documented positives. You can bet there were way more people that had it and never got tested. Plus the number of deaths that were labelled Covid deaths, but actually were not. A lot of number manipulation happening
 
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That’s documented positives. You can bet there were way more people that had it and never got tested. Plus the number of deaths that were labelled Covid deaths, but actually were not. A lot of number manipulation happening
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Sure, but I mean we've had over 10x the amount of people die of Covid in a year than the amount of people who even contract TB in Canada annually, so not sure what your point is
 
European Countries Suspend Use of AstraZeneca Shots Over Worries About Blood Clots

As of Wednesday, 30 cases of obstructive blood clots had been reported among nearly five million people vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine in the European Union and three other European countries — a rate no higher than in the general population, the European Medicines Agency said. The agency, Europe’s main drug regulator, said that the vaccine’s benefits outweigh any risks.
The agency also said that there is no indication the vaccine “has caused these conditions.”
Gonzalo Viña, a spokesman for AstraZeneca, said the company’s data have not turned up such safety issues. “An analysis of our safety data of more than 10 million records has shown no evidence of an increased risk of pulmonary embolism or deep vein thrombosis in any defined age group, gender, batch or in any particular country,” he said.
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Saline solution kills more than vaccines.
Fact check: Clarifying claims around Pfizer vaccine deaths and side effects
Social media users have been sharing a post that makes several claims of serious negative health effects from the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, including that 6 people died during late-stage trials. These claims are partly false. Six people did die during the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine trials, but only two of them were given the vaccine. The other four were given a safe placebo solution of salt and water. No causal relationship was established between the vaccine and the two deaths, which occurred in line with the normal death rate for the general population. The first person to get the vaccine in the UK is not in critical condition. Four cases of Bell’s Palsy (partial facial paralysis) were also not considered to necessarily be caused by the vaccine but the symptom will be under surveillance when the vaccine is distributed. Precautions have also been added for allergic reactions.
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Alberta flu
Past Influenza Seasonal Data | Alberta Health Services

Alberta COVID-19
alberta covid deaths - Google Search
 
These vaccines are not permanent solution so why risk the death while you don't even have the symptoms? Imagine you risking your life this year only to risk it again next year! This is pathetic and shouldn't even be considered as vaccine.
 
ULF_55 said:
European Countries Suspend Use of AstraZeneca Shots Over Worries About Blood Clots



Saline solution kills more than vaccines.
Fact check: Clarifying claims around Pfizer vaccine deaths and side effects


Alberta flu
Past Influenza Seasonal Data | Alberta Health Services

Alberta COVID-19
alberta covid deaths - Google Search
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Are they testing for the flu like they are for covid though when someone dies? I seriously doubt someone that dies in a car accident is being put in the flu death column if they also happened to have the flu at the time like they are for covid. Also I don't think your flu stats tell the whole story. Statscan lumps flu and pneumonia together so they are obviously interrelated (likely because most cases of pneumonia are flu related but that's just a guess):

Leading causes of death, total population, by age group

7,343 flu deaths/year 5 year average in Canada. Alberta's share of that should be approx. 856/year. And again, there's no reason to believe those numbers are padded in any way (unlike covid deaths).
 
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The Hanging Jowl said:
Are they testing for the flu like they are for covid though when someone dies? I seriously doubt someone that dies in a car accident is being put in the flu death column if they also happened to have the flu at the time like they are for covid. Also I don't think your flu stats tell the whole story. Statscan lumps flu and pneumonia together so they are obviously interrelated (likely because most cases of pneumonia are flu related but that's just a guess):

Leading causes of death, total population, by age group

7,343 flu deaths/year 5 year average in Canada. Alberta's share of that should be approx. 856/year. And again, there's no reason to believe those numbers are padded in any way (unlike covid deaths).
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Sigh. Not his again. No one who dies in a car accident is being counted as a Covid death.

Anyway you slice it Covid is considerably deadly than the flu, especially as we had far more deaths even with restrictions in place than in a normal flu year when there's no restrictions
 
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Pink Mist said:
Sigh. Not his again. No one who dies in a car accident is being counted as a Covid death.

Anyway you slice it Covid is considerably deadly than the flu, especially as we had far more deaths even with restrictions in place than in a normal flu year when there's no restrictions
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Wrong. They are classifying covid deaths if the person tests positive whether the cause was Covid or not.

Well there’s an annual flu shot that people get, so that helps. Imagine if this was the Spanish flu where 50million people died, mostly younger people in the prime of their lives. If this is a pandemic what is that?
 
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