Salary Cap: Contracts and Salary Cap (Contract Info in Posts #1 & #2)
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NikC
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Agreed about roles and specific roles for success. I don’t think we had much in place for him “not’ to fit in, but rather be a cog or player we would develop around. I understand what you are saying, but I believe it was this coaches' responsibility to create or develop a structure to replicate the success of the players his GM provides him.
I think the GM made this deal because of his coach, and at the time it made sense. he was a legitimate #1 C.
Richards flat out stunk at every facet of the game this year. His failings go beyond not just fitting in...
Is it completely impossible for Glen Sather to trade Brad Richards at the next deadline or next season?
You can obtain a percentage of salary/cap hit under the new CBA. The percentage cannoy vary between years, but must be the same for the remaining years of the contract.
Next summer, 6 years is left, 27m is unpaid (4.5m on avg) (8.5, 8.5, 7, 1, 1 and 1), and he have a cap hit of 6.8m.
His potential value is of course dependent on how he does next season, but if he scores around 65pts next year many teams would of course don't mind getting him, he could still put up pts in the right environement, he is a veteran leader and what not. Former Conn Smyth winner.
Would that Brad Richards be of value for for example Edmonton Oiles?
Lets say Slats obtains 2m of Brad Richards cap hit and hence 29.5% of the money still owed. Edm gets "Cap Hit / Money to pay":
4.8 / 5.9
4.8 / 5.9
4.8 / 4.9
4.8 / 0.7
4.8 / 0.7
4.8 / 0.7
Total money to be paid: 18.8m / 3.1m per
If there would be any interest in Brad Richards on those terms, surely depends on how he would look next season. If he have a decent year, who knows (like if he gets 65 pts, he gets that money as a UFA for sure anyway, and many teams would never be in the bidding for him).
Would Richards waive his NMC? Who knows... The pressure in NY seems to be getting to him.
Why would Slats do it? The only time it makes sense is if we can get a good kid on a ELC back/cheaper contract back. I saw that Burmistov wanted out of Winnipeg for example, lets say he would sign for 3 years and 1.75m per. Winnipeg gets a veteran scorer they never could sign as a FA. We get Burmistov for 1.75m per + 2m x 6 years. Staal and Richards (with us retaining salary like above) for Nail Yakubov and snatch Letang from Pittsburgh...
Nah, doesn't seem likely, at best "who knows". But the retaining salary/cap hit is an interesting option.
You can obtain a percentage of salary/cap hit under the new CBA. The percentage cannoy vary between years, but must be the same for the remaining years of the contract.
Next summer, 6 years is left, 27m is unpaid (4.5m on avg) (8.5, 8.5, 7, 1, 1 and 1), and he have a cap hit of 6.8m.
His potential value is of course dependent on how he does next season, but if he scores around 65pts next year many teams would of course don't mind getting him, he could still put up pts in the right environement, he is a veteran leader and what not. Former Conn Smyth winner.
Would that Brad Richards be of value for for example Edmonton Oiles?
Lets say Slats obtains 2m of Brad Richards cap hit and hence 29.5% of the money still owed. Edm gets "Cap Hit / Money to pay":
4.8 / 5.9
4.8 / 5.9
4.8 / 4.9
4.8 / 0.7
4.8 / 0.7
4.8 / 0.7
Total money to be paid: 18.8m / 3.1m per
If there would be any interest in Brad Richards on those terms, surely depends on how he would look next season. If he have a decent year, who knows (like if he gets 65 pts, he gets that money as a UFA for sure anyway, and many teams would never be in the bidding for him).
Would Richards waive his NMC? Who knows... The pressure in NY seems to be getting to him.
Why would Slats do it? The only time it makes sense is if we can get a good kid on a ELC back/cheaper contract back. I saw that Burmistov wanted out of Winnipeg for example, lets say he would sign for 3 years and 1.75m per. Winnipeg gets a veteran scorer they never could sign as a FA. We get Burmistov for 1.75m per + 2m x 6 years. Staal and Richards (with us retaining salary like above) for Nail Yakubov and snatch Letang from Pittsburgh...
Nah, doesn't seem likely, at best "who knows". But the retaining salary/cap hit is an interesting option.
DudMan28
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I dont see how DZ is a perfect fit for Edmonton. Other teams do have scouts watching games. What would a team that is bad defensively do with a bad defensemen? Especially now that they have Justin Schultz filling there offensive defensemen/puck moving. It might makes sense in NHL 13, but not in real life.
NYR Viper
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It makes a ton of sense. MDZ is not a "bad" defenseman. He is a 22 year old top-4 d-man who consistently plays 20+ minutes a night. He is physical, he has a good shot and he has a track record of good offensive production.
Most teams like to have more than (1) offensive defenseman. Especially when Schultz is barely passable on defense as of now.
DudMan28
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Im sorry but MDZ has gotten abused by top talent in the playoffs the past two years. I understand that he has the upside, but for a team that is looking to sure up their defense, Im not sure DZ is the right guy.
Bad defensemen? Hardly. Inconsistent, sure, but not "bad" by any stretch of the imagination.
Teams have scouts at games, but that didn't stop Gomez from ending up in Montreal, or Dallas flipping Neal and Niskanen for Goligoski, or Burke landing Lupul AND Gardiner for a struggling Beauchemin. Thankfully "potential" means something to the people who actually make decisions. Del Zotto was excellent last year, and while he's been up and down this year, is only 22 years old. Plenty of time to stabilize and grow.
Then how do you explain the Gaborik trade?
You're not going to trade for players coming off a good season. Erickson for Del Zotto might be the basis of a trade of two players whoo seem to need a change of scenery and fill needs.
Of course, I'm still reluctant to trad MDZ until I know more about Staal's future.
Just because you don't know what you are getting, it doesn't meant that what you are getting isn't good.
Nah, seriously, my point was more like that while Slats tends to get good value, it strikingly often seem like a move is done but doesn't turn out like expected. Basically every year we stand there in October with a flaw on our hand.
Trxjw- I agree for sure on MDZ. I think he lacks a little mobility. His head and hand doesn't bring many limitations, but his feets don't get him out of danger that often. I do think he is solid defensively for sure for a player in his mold though.
Greg02
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Tawnos
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Contradicts what she wrote on 1/15
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/8847030/nhl-nhlpa-agree-terms-compliance-buyouts-source-says
Kane One
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The rule was originally that teams would get two "over the next two summers." With the Redden and Gomez fiasco, they allowed teams to use them before the season started, except how it would work is that the player would get all the money for the 2012-13 season (and they come off the cap) and then any year after that would be like a normal amnesty buyout.
They only need one on Richards really, no other horrific deals. If they keep the same team, resign rfa , clowe and a guy like Weiss they still have a few million to spare likely
Maineice11
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Is it completely impossible for Glen Sather to trade Brad Richards at the next deadline or next season?
You can obtain a percentage of salary/cap hit under the new CBA. The percentage cannoy vary between years, but must be the same for the remaining years of the contract.
Next summer, 6 years is left, 27m is unpaid (4.5m on avg) (8.5, 8.5, 7, 1, 1 and 1), and he have a cap hit of 6.8m.
His potential value is of course dependent on how he does next season, but if he scores around 65pts next year many teams would of course don't mind getting him, he could still put up pts in the right environement, he is a veteran leader and what not. Former Conn Smyth winner.
Would that Brad Richards be of value for for example Edmonton Oiles?
Lets say Slats obtains 2m of Brad Richards cap hit and hence 29.5% of the money still owed. Edm gets "Cap Hit / Money to pay":
4.8 / 5.9
4.8 / 5.9
4.8 / 4.9
4.8 / 0.7
4.8 / 0.7
4.8 / 0.7
Total money to be paid: 18.8m / 3.1m per
If there would be any interest in Brad Richards on those terms, surely depends on how he would look next season. If he have a decent year, who knows (like if he gets 65 pts, he gets that money as a UFA for sure anyway, and many teams would never be in the bidding for him).
Would Richards waive his NMC? Who knows... The pressure in NY seems to be getting to him.
Why would Slats do it? The only time it makes sense is if we can get a good kid on a ELC back/cheaper contract back. I saw that Burmistov wanted out of Winnipeg for example, lets say he would sign for 3 years and 1.75m per. Winnipeg gets a veteran scorer they never could sign as a FA. We get Burmistov for 1.75m per + 2m x 6 years. Staal and Richards (with us retaining salary like above) for Nail Yakubov and snatch Letang from Pittsburgh...
Nah, doesn't seem likely, at best "who knows". But the retaining salary/cap hit is an interesting option.
if this was a year ago before the new CBA i'd say sure, but if the Rangers trade Richards and he retires before the end of his contract then the cap hit goes against the Rangers salary cap and could really mungle things up for that team. If they use a compliance buyout then the Rangers open an additional 6.7 million, which makes the Rangers cap space for the 2013-2014 season 20 million and they will have to resign Stepan, Hagelin, Zucc, McD, Sauer, and decide if they want Eminger/Gilroy/neither. I think Rangers will play some hardball because it is the 2nd contract, a bridge contract probably 2-3 years on each, maybe you do a longer one with Stepan and McD. I think you see how mcilrath does in training camp, maybe he earns a spot out of camp. I think Steps and McD will get around 4-5mil/season, Hagelin will be 2-3mil/season, Zucc will get 1-2mil/season, Sauer will be under 1mil/season because of his injury, but can't give up on him yet, he's young and hopefully can find a way to get healthy to not just come back but live a good life. If you use those numbers 16mil, leaves 4 mil open. And if, big IF, 2013-2014 revenue is projected near correctly from this shortened season (it was in a New York Post article a couple months ago), which could be around or above 4 billion then the cap will increase for the 2014-2015 season.
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Buyout Richards
Resign McD, Stepan, Hagelin and MZA
If not too expensive - resign Clowe (1-2 years)
Sign Eminger as a 7/8 depth D
Sign Streit
Trade Powe and Pyatt at the draft/in the offseason
Trade MDZ plus a fwd prospect and a pick for Bobby Ryan
Still not sure if this would be enough though
Lots of up and coming youth in the organization to promote if the current roster shows signs of stagnation, a very good thing...
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($3.300m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.500m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.500m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.000m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.760m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Arron Asham ($1.000m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.000m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
John Moore ($0.965m) / Mark Streit ($4.100m)
Steve Eminger ($0.800m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buyout: Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $64,133,333
BONUSES: $837,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,004,167
Resign McD, Stepan, Hagelin and MZA
If not too expensive - resign Clowe (1-2 years)
Sign Eminger as a 7/8 depth D
Sign Streit
Trade Powe and Pyatt at the draft/in the offseason
Trade MDZ plus a fwd prospect and a pick for Bobby Ryan
Still not sure if this would be enough though
Lots of up and coming youth in the organization to promote if the current roster shows signs of stagnation, a very good thing...
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($3.300m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.500m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.500m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.000m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.760m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Arron Asham ($1.000m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.000m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
John Moore ($0.965m) / Mark Streit ($4.100m)
Steve Eminger ($0.800m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buyout: Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $64,133,333
BONUSES: $837,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,004,167
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/cap_may_ruin_rangers_ozS6X20iDeRrV2GCHu1uCO
Even if Richards by some miracle re-established himself(whatever that means for a player who isn't the same player and was average in 11-12)or was a productive player this season,Richards should still be amnestied.
Richards has his union to blame. They agreed to cap recapture in the CBA. The Fehr brothers did a bad job here.
Hire Sather
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This is what I said before the season. I never exected him to be so bad this season, I figured he'd be decent like 2011-2012, but with his contract and the new rules theres no way you can't buy him out. Even if he was PPG this year.
Made Dan
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If that were the case, they probably would've waited till next season. Would've milked everything out of him that we could. Irrelevant now though.
