Consequences if Carlo is Traded

JCRO

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Have out of town trolls invaded this poll, or how are 40% of fans considering quitting a team over trading away a(n albeit promising) rookie d-man? Bandwagon city?

Or is it just a case of there being too few poll options? I guess that's more likely.

Its the bold. In my case anyways.
 

PB37

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Carlo is a very good defensive dman and at such a young age. There's some room and potential for a little more offense then what we've seen too.

With that said, it wouldn't be the end of the world if he does get traded nor would I turn in my Bruins card. My allegiance is to the front of the sweater; I can still cheer on Carlo from afar with whatever team he ends up on.

I do hope he stays with the Bruins. We're setting our blueline up to be the driving force behind this team and it would be great to see Carlo in our top 4 for the next 10+ years.
 

JEM28

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If the Bruins trade Carlo I guess I'll continue to root for the remaining Bruins and any additions coming in the trade. Pretty simple.

If the question were what will happen to the team if they trade Carlo? Same thing that will happen if they don't trade him. Miss playoffs by a few points. I'm more interested in what any trade, Carlo or anyone else, means to the next few years.

To me, this year is inconsequential outside of positioning the team to be better next year.
 

KnightofBoston

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Would be a terrible move and would show me this organization has learned nothing from its mistakes


The only way it makes sense is if a team overlays to get him, and that won't happen so it's moot


This team needs to focus on the future, they'll be lucky to win a cup in the next 10 years let alone next few, don't trade away any futures like that especially ones that come in at 19 and look like a pro, are 6'5" with room to grow and plenty of muscle to pack on AND skate very well.


Stupid stupid stupid if they trade him.
I may consider being done for the season with this team if it happens
 

Seidenbergy

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Have out of town trolls invaded this poll, or how are 40% of fans considering quitting a team over trading away a(n albeit promising) rookie d-man? Bandwagon city?

Or is it just a case of there being too few poll options? I guess that's more likely.

This might be the first time I've ever heard of a fan of a team likely going on 3 years with no playoffs, being referred to as a bandwagon fan.
 

zaYG

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My support of management would certainly be in question. Landeskog is one of the most overrated players in the NHL and would not push the Bruins over the hump. Trading Carlo before you get to see if any of the prospects will be able to replicate his performance is a bad move.
 

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I think the Bruins are really hoping for prospects so break in over the next 1-2 seasons to supplement the older core players. The only core player who will possible be gone(without a return) would be Chara, who is still our best dman. I don't see how trading the best young defensive dman on the team for a forward, no matter how good, keeps this team competitive which is obviously the goal.

We've seen over the last few seasons just how tough it is to compete with a subpar defence. We've seen how difficult it is to acquire a dman. Now we're going to trade the one guy(with two more years on a ELC) that made that less of an issue for another expensive top 6 player? It doesn't make sense.
 
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Fossy21

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This might be the first time I've ever heard of a fan of a team likely going on 3 years with no playoffs, being referred to as a bandwagon fan.

Quitting a sports team due to them trading a rookie for a former #2 overall drafted captain...
 

Seidenbergy

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Quitting a sports team due to them trading a rookie for a former #2 overall drafted captain...

You can say their decision is misguided, illogical, odd.......whatever.
You can say that they are a fan of a player, not the team.

Bandwagon is simply not the right term.
 

Seidenbergy

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Is this not the very definition?

Casual fan maybe. Not bandwagon.

A bandwagon fan was a fan of the Bs from 2011-2013 and then jumped ship.
Nobody that's been a fan of the Bs over the last few years is a bandwagon fan. They would've become a fan of the Penguins or Blackhawks......or Columbus this year.

All those guys wearing shiny new Oakland Raiders hats this fall/early winter around Boston that have since disappeared? Those are bandwagon fans.
 

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Casual fan maybe. Not bandwagon.

A bandwagon fan was a fan of the Bs from 2011-2013 and then jumped ship.
Nobody that's been a fan of the Bs over the last few years is a bandwagon fan. They would've become a fan of the Penguins or Blackhawks......or Columbus this year.

All those guys wearing shiny new Oakland Raiders hats this fall/early winter around Boston that have since disappeared? Those are bandwagon fans.

Oh I see.

So you can jump on the bandwagon when the team is doing well. That makes you a bandwagon fan.

But if you hop off when the isn't doing well, you get a pass.
 

Lobster57

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Trading Carlo, who appears at the very least to be a servicable NHL d-man, before figuring out if the McAvoys, Lauzons and Arnessons of thw world are going to work out, would be foolish. Lots of highly touted D prospects never pan out, we're still waiting on Morrow 5 years after he was drafted.

A bird in the hand and all that.
 

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Very true.This could be all media hype.We have not once heard Sweeney mention Carlo available. Starting to think it's all some dingbat starting bad rumors.Bruins have 35 games left. That should be the focus.

The rumor, the way I understand it:

Colorado is talking trade with other teams.

Boston inquired about Landeskog.

Colorado asked for Carlo to be included in the deal.

Boston said no.

Now, the 2 are reported to be in talks again, hence the Carlo rumor.

We have not once heard Sweeney mention Carlo is available, because Sweeney hasn't mentioned that anyone is available, nor should he, except to other GMs.
 

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I wouldn't quit being a fan, but I would definitely be frustrated.

This team sorely needs a true defensive core to build around. Chara isn't that core anymore; he's on his way out. Once he's gone, what do you have left? Krug is a good top 4 pairing player at his best, but I don't know if he's a number one D or not. Nobody here wants to keep Kmiller or McQuaid as anything other than third pairing, and Cmiller and Joe Morrow both apparently can't keep their confidence high enough to stay regularly in the line up. NONE of us want to see aging vets with little left to offer like Liles anymore..

So what defensive core is there to build around, aside from Krug, if Carlo is gone? At least with players like Marchand and Pasta, possibly Spooner and Vatrano, there is some hope for the forwards group. Bergeron's having a crap year but he's not going to fail to produce like this forever. Backes still has some life left in him, and I think Krejci's capable of continuing to garner offensive production as well. The bottom 6 has plenty of potential as it is.

My point in all of this is me wondering, is Landeskog really worth making a defensive core, which has seen some life spring back into it with Carlo's emergence, weaker? Essentially putting it back where it was as it stood last year? Who wants to go BACK to that kind of play? It was hard to watch those games. Rask needs the support in scoring, yes, but having a solid defense also works wonders. You can't sustain winning without out that.
 

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I'm curious about the Venn diagram of people who (1) wouldn't move Carlo, (2) think Colin deserves 20 mins a game and (3) think McAvoy is going to be a top pairing D.
 

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I'm curious about the Venn diagram of people who (1) wouldn't move Carlo, (2) think Colin deserves 20 mins a game and (3) think McAvoy is going to be a top pairing D.

If Carlo goes without a replacement in his spot (a partner for Chara), the trade is a fail.

C. Miller maybe not 20 minutes a game, but definitely on the ice every night.

McAvoy I believe has the potential to be a number one and potential to be a bust... And everything in between. My prediction is top-pairing, but I'm kind of a ****ing moron, so...
 

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I'm curious about the Venn diagram of people who (1) wouldn't move Carlo, (2) think Colin deserves 20 mins a game and (3) think McAvoy is going to be a top pairing D.

I'd only move Carlo for an elite, skill, offense forward.
I don't thin Colin deserves 20 minutes yet.
I think McAvoy will be top pairing.
 

JEM28

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I'd move anyone if it makes the team better as long as it's not marginal improvement that results in no playoffs again. If that's the case, make moves with an eye on next year and the next several after that.
 

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Last year we were all clamoring four a top pair, or at least a top 4 defenseman....we found one....trading him would be insane...

Especially for a forward, when we have a large amount of potential forwards coming that may make an impact. Shenyshyn (sp?) , Heinen, JFK, Bjork, Gabrielle, and others...

Any potential gain by getting Landeskog would be offset by the amount of loss from losing Carlo. We would be right back where we were, hoping for a top 4 defenseman.

If Landeskog is on the way to Boston, it needs to be forwards involved, not a trade from our weakest position...

So....Spooner, a good prospect forward, a pick (not 2017 1st), maybe someone like O Gara.

Addition by subtraction is not going to help.
 

LouJersey

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It will be funny to look back if Carlo is traded and seeing all this praise when the same people will be calling him soft and one dimensional on the way out.

I do love those old Seguin threads.
 

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