Consequences if Carlo is Traded

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

I'd be very disappointed to give up on Carlo this early - that size is a real rarity. But when the dust settles I'm sure most of us would be delighted to have Landeskog on the team, so let's not get carried away.

I'm still heavily leaning towards keeping Carlo though. That McAvoy + Carlo punch sets up for the long haul.

 

[smithformeragent]

I'm basically numb to this organization at this point.

Looking at what they won, what they could have achieved in their window and how little they have to show has damaged my confidence and my enjoyment.

The trust has been compromised.

 

[BruinDust]

I'd be very disappointed to give up on Carlo this early - that size is a real rarity. But when the dust settles I'm sure most of us would be delighted to have Landeskog on the team, so let's not get carried away.

I'm still heavily leaning towards keeping Carlo though. That McAvoy + Carlo punch sets up for the long haul.

Well when the D still stinks, and the team starts selling young ELC forwards for pennies on the dollar because they have way too much cap invested in their vaunted "Top 6", something tells me we won't all be so happy to have the great Gabriel Landeskog.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

yikes, people need to pump the brakes on carlo. He's a defensive d-man; there is limited upside here. He's been fantastic, but we've only seen him for half a year. I don't want him traded but it wouldn't be the end of the world.

b.i.n.g.o.

 

[Over the volcano]

Depends on the return.

Always this.

 

[Gee Wally]

It all depends on what the exact deal is.

If its as rumored Carlo + pick + prospect for GL the Avs can pound sand.

If its straight up 1 for 1 I'd most likely do it. (highly improbable)

 

[finchster]

Usually the team getting the better player wins. Landeskog is the better player with the higher potential make no mistake. However, the Bruins defence is so bad we can't afford to let Carlo go.

 

[BNHL]

I wouldn't take any report seriously that involved Carlo at this time,for this team.

 

[Ryan77]

It all depends on what the exact deal is.

If its as rumored Carlo + pick + prospect for GL the Avs can pound sand.

If its straight up 1 for 1 I'd most likely do it. (highly improbable)

I agree with this however i doubt it's going to be one for one.

I think this trade is going to be something where it helps the Bruins get better now and helps the Avs get better down the road.

I know some people here want a rebuild or "re-tooling" but it's so difficult with so many players controlling their fate via NMC.

I'm hoping in this trade the Bruins can shed a bad contract.

This is a big moment for Sweeney and a trade he needs to win

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

THIS is the deal that would make you stop supporting the Bruins? lol this isn't even in our top 3 worst.

Also Landeskog is 24 and is a 20g 55pt kind of guy. As trade rape goes this isn't too bad frankly. I'd be far more worried about moves to get Doan and such.

 

[Ryan77]

THIS is the deal that would make you stop supporting the Bruins? lol this isn't even in our top 3 worst.

Also Landeskog is 24 and is a 20g 55pt kind of guy. As trade rape goes this isn't too bad frankly. I'd be far more worried about moves to get Doan and such.

Exactly!!

 

[Fenian24]

WOW who knew we were dealing Bobby Orr or Ray Bourque? Carlo has become so loved that 10 people will never root for the team again because of his massive impact in Boston. Let's get real huh? He's a good defenseman who looks better playing with Chara who may or may not develop into a top pairing shut down defender or he becomes somebody in a few years that the analytic geeks hate because he is a defensive D with no offense.

Still in the system are McAvoy, Lauzon, O'Gara and Zboril. The prospect closet is far from empty if Carlo is dealt. This isn't a 20 year old Ray Bourque. Don't give him away but if you can improve your team with a top 6 young forward I would do it.

Is Carlo's high end even comparable to Johnny Boychuk who netted two 2nd round picks? How about Hamilton? I would take both over Carlo and I wasn't a big Hamilton fan.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

WOW who knew we were dealing Bobby Orr or Ray Bourque? Carlo has become so loved that 10 people will never root for the team again because of his massive impact in Boston. Let's get real huh? He's a good defenseman who looks better playing with Chara who may or may not develop into a top pairing shut down defender or he becomes somebody in a few years that the analytic geeks hate because he is a defensive D with no offense.

Still in the system are McAvoy, Lauzon, O'Gara and Zboril. The prospect closet is far from empty if Carlo is dealt. This isn't a 20 year old Ray Bourque. Don't give him away but if you can improve your team with a top 6 young forward I would do it.

Why do people keep bringing up O'Gara like hes a reason to trade Carlo? Not necessarily this thread, but over the last few weeks. He's a 23 year old playing in Providence, I think its fair to say he doesn't have the same pedigree as Carlo/McAvoy. He's a depth prospect.

If the deal was Landeskog for Carlo and a small plus I would consider it, but it sounds like thats not whats being discussed.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

It all depends on what the exact deal is.

If its as rumored Carlo + pick + prospect for GL the Avs can pound sand.

If its straight up 1 for 1 I'd most likely do it. (highly improbable)

Carlo + a B prospect I would probably do. Something like Carlo + Grizz + 3rd. Carlo + a significant piece absolutely not.

 

[Fenian24]

Why do people keep bringing up O'Gara like hes a reason to trade Carlo? Not necessarily this thread, but over the last few weeks. He's a 23 year old playing in Providence, I think its fair to say he doesn't have the same pedigree as Carlo/McAvoy. He's a depth prospect.

If the deal was Landeskog for Carlo and a small plus I would consider it, but it sounds like thats not whats being discussed.

I agree regarding O'Gara, I was just saying that it isn't like Carlo is the only prospect in the system. Also the amount of angst being displayed over Carlo's potential trade is a bit over the top by some.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

A bad, bad move if done.

 

[ap3lovr]

The only way Carlo is traded is if the return is really good. The AVS aren't going to be giving their stars away for free. I personally don't see a fit there for a trade, and any trde that includes Carlo + something else for someone like Land tells me that Sweeney's job is on the line.

 

[JCRO]

Bruins simply cant afford to give Carlo up. Thats all.

Im not sure if theres an underlying consensus that people think because he jumped right into the Bs top 4 that all the other prospects not named McAvoy will do the same thing? Carlo was a blessing for this team this season. He panned out. Not all do.

Thats not to say a one for one swap isnt fair in value. Its more than fair. Just not what the Bruins can afford to do. As I have said before, stay the course with Carlo.

And this trade wouldnt throw me off the bandwagon. I as many others would live.

 

[chrisab123]

This is the same organization that gave away a top 10 NHL player because management didn't like his personality. They do this deal because they think scoring gets them to the playoffs.

 

[BsEuphoria]

I'd be very disappointed to give up on Carlo this early - that size is a real rarity. But when the dust settles I'm sure most of us would be delighted to have Landeskog on the team, so let's not get carried away.

I'm still heavily leaning towards keeping Carlo though. That McAvoy + Carlo punch sets up for the long haul.

The kid is still what, 19?? Before this season we were in a whirlwind about watching this team tank because we have no defense. Then we have this out of no where prospect with some good size basically saves our defense from the bottom of the league and we're all fine with dumping him. I get it, our offense has been basically terrible this year, but there could be more to this then just the players.

If he keeps developing and McAvoy turns into something, this would be a great tandem for a number of years.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

I agree regarding O'Gara, I was just saying that it isn't like Carlo is the only prospect in the system. Also the amount of angst being displayed over Carlo's potential trade is a bit over the top by some.

I think it isn't necessarily about Carlo, though. I think when Sweeney said he was done "sprinkling their young talent across the league" some Bruins fans got on board with his other interesting moves. Trading Carlo (top four D man on an ELC) would be completely hypocritical.

The other thing I can't help not thinking about... if Sweeney was planning on trading for a young established vet, why draft two players in Senyshyn and Debrusk who are quite clearly valued less around the league than who they could have gotten? Would Barzal and a small plus have gotten it done? Connor? Circumstances change, and maybe Sweeney thought theyd be in a better position at this point, but still.

Hindsight is always 20/20 of course, but if his goal was to pull a Danny Ainge and accumulate assets in hopes for a trade, they shouldn't have gone off the board. If the goal was to stockpile players he thought would fit well in the Bruins lineup and not draft for pure value, then trying to trade them now doesnt make sense to me.

This isn't intended to bash the picks, its just food for thought.

 

[HHHH]

Give the state of the Defense over the past few seasons and looking forward, I would not move Carlo unless it was for a significant overpayment.

I personally do not see Landeskog as that overpayment, although I do like him a lot as a player.

 

[Bad Hat Harry]

Carlo is not untouchable.

But if this is the only move we are doing, and there's not a top-4 defensive prospect coming back in this, or any subsequent moves, then this is just another short-sighted bandaid trade that will foolishly try to squeak us into the playoffs and get Jacobs a few more dollars from those home playoff games.

 

[ODAAT]

http://www.tauntongazette.com/sport...weeney-emphasizes-commitment-to-young-players

While not every prospect drafted by the B`s can be expected to be their property forever, to move Carlo, at this point, IMO, goes against what DS stated here

 

[BsEuphoria]

This is the same organization that gave away a top 10 NHL player because management didn't like his personality. They do this deal because they think scoring gets them to the playoffs.

This is so freaking true to, unfortunately.