Blue Jays Discussion: Confirmed: Vladimir Guerrero Jr is still good at baseball

[Dr.Funk]

 

[The Nemesis]

I’d be really annoyed if we took a catcher with our first pick

Never draft based on position. 3-5 years from now when anyone drafted is ready to break into the bigs who's to say what the Jays will need.

 

[dredeye]

I know that but we’ve gone so heavy at catcher that’s I’d like to do the same elsewhere. If I’m remembering correctly even internationally our big get last year was also a catcher or it’s the one we are linked to in the next draft

 

[ryno23]

None of us will remember a game in late April at the end of September.

sure you will. How many times did we hear about how many games Charlie screw up last year

 

[canucksfan]

White Sox have had an awful start to the year.

Also, the Yanks schedule in the first month and a half is a cakewalk.

 

[MS]

None of us will remember a game in late April at the end of September.

I absolutely remember saying that letting Tanner Roark start games at the start of last year could cost the team the playoffs, only to indeed see them miss by 1 game.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

so the mets are hyped beyond repair again to start the season. are they above 500 by the all star break or trade deadline. or do we see another epic collapse

The Mets are for real because that rotation is nasty, even without deGrom. Megill, Carrasco, and Bassitt are studs, and Taijuan, whom they'll get back on Saturday, is a solid #5. Scherzer is a beast, of course.

The offense is also pretty pesky and should be good enough with that pitching. I'm just not sure about that bullpen.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

White Sox have had an awful start to the year.

Also, the Yanks schedule in the first month and a half is a cakewalk.

Sox are lucky that the division is complete garbage again, although they are dealing with injuries. Minnesota is the only threat if Buxton stays healthy and they can get a ton out of Ryan and Ober. Don't really trust their rotation overall

 

[Discoverer]

I absolutely remember saying that letting Tanner Roark start games at the start of last year could cost the team the playoffs, only to indeed see them miss by 1 game.

Fair enough. But I would argue there were probably dozens and dozens of "this was why we missed the playoffs moments" that we could point out throughout the season, some on Montoyo and a lot on the players.

 

[theaub]

The whole exercise is dumb. The Jays lost 71 games year and while some were more blatant than others, you could pinpoint issues with every single loss if you wanted (and with the way this topic criticizes Montoyo for literally anything I'm sure people in here already have). Which is absolutely ridiculous because it removes the whole ebb and flow of a season.

Meanwhile the Jays have had, by my count, eight wins already wherein if it was the other way around certain people in here would be having a full blown melty.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Never draft based on position. 3-5 years from now when anyone drafted is ready to break into the bigs who's to say what the Jays will need.

I know it's cliche, but you are 100% right. It's more the case in baseball than in any other sport. Look at Houston with Correa - who would have thought they would need a SS?

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Discoverer]

The whole exercise is dumb. The Jays lost 71 games year and while some were more blatant than others, you could pinpoint issues with every single loss if you wanted (and with the way this topic criticizes Montoyo for literally anything I'm sure people in here already have). Which is absolutely ridiculous because it removes the whole ebb and flow of a season.

Meanwhile the Jays have had, by my count, eight wins already wherein if it was the other way around certain people in here would be having a full blown melty.

Absolutely. I've said this before, but Montoyo makes enough actual bad/weird decisions that it seems really odd to me that people make such an effort to blame him for everything. And it seems to be literally everything sometimes.

So weird. Every loss is because Montoyo did something dumb. Every win is in spite of Montoyo doing something dumb. He doesn't get credit for doing anything well, and he doesn't get credit for any of the weird things he does that actually work out really well.

It's to the point where people are proactively blaming him for ruining the season because of a lineup he put out in a game that the team ended up winning.

 

[Discoverer]

He went 3-3 in his debut. Not bad!

 

[Woodman19]

Whats shocking for me is, despite how good Manoah has been, Gausman with 0.1 less IP over 4 starts has 3x as much WAR. If our top 3 are all humming come playoff time it should be a deadly trio to face for opponents with Gausman-Manoah-Berrios.

 

[phillipmike]

Whats shocking for me is, despite how good Manoah has been, Gausman with 0.1 less IP over 4 starts has 3x as much WAR. If our top 3 are all humming come playoff time it should be a deadly trio to face for opponents with Gausman-Manoah-Berrios.

I know it is early, but imagine we got Syndergaard instead of Kikuchi.

Gausman
Berrios
Manoah
Syndergaard

 

[theaub]

Implying Syndergaard will make it to October

 

[Canada4Gold]

I know it is early, but imagine we got Syndergaard instead of Kikuchi.

Gausman
Berrios
Manoah
Syndergaard

Syndergaard's K/9 so far this year is really low, though a small sample. I would have preferred Rodon and we wouldn't have even had to give up a pick

 

[Eyedea]

Whats shocking for me is, despite how good Manoah has been, Gausman with 0.1 less IP over 4 starts has 3x as much WAR. If our top 3 are all humming come playoff time it should be a deadly trio to face for opponents with Gausman-Manoah-Berrios.

FIP doesn't account for Manoah's gamer mentality. He's a real baseball player.

 

[Woodman19]

Whats really messed up is Gausman sporting a .391 BABIP against him. Whats his numbers going to look like when they normalize? (although the 0BB/9 and HR/9 are not sustainable lol)

 

[Discoverer]

Whats really messed up is Gausman sporting a .391 BABIP against him. Whats his numbers going to look like when they normalize? (although the 0BB/9 and HR/9 are not sustainable lol)

An ERA in the low 2's while sporting a .391 BABIP and an average LOB% really is insane.

 

[Woodman19]

An ERA in the low 2's while sporting a .391 BABIP and an average LOB% really is insane.

I guess it makes sense that hes on pace for 11.6 WAR lol

 

[The Nemesis]

FIP doesn't account for Manoah's gamer mentality. He's a real baseball player.

He sure is, Pat.

 

[theaub]

FIP doesn't account for Manoah's gamer mentality. He's a real baseball player.

 

[phillipmike]