Regular season hockey is NOT playoff hockey .. 2 different games .. 2 different set of rules .. 2 different games played with more pace and less time and space with puck .. 2 different physical games .. rating a tender before playoffs is like making a decision on a wife before you live with her .. some guys flat out can't handle playoff hockey they don't have it in them .. and tenders have most important role to play .. their f*ck ups mean you go home
Combined Goalie Discussion Thread - PART TWO!
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I'm going to guess these are:
Campbell
Samsonov
Andersen
I was skeptical of the Murray trade when it happened, given that Matt Murray as a Sen was both not good and injured quite a bit, plus the 2 years left on his back-loaded contract. His play as a Leaf has definitely been better, but unfortunately he hasn't been able to stay healthy throughout the season. I wonder how long until the medical staff can get a good handle on his current status. What I find funny is how even when he's been "bad," watching him play hasn't left me feeling nervous the way that previous "whipping boy" goalies has. It must be something about the calmness he projects in his style where I feel comfortable with him in net, even when he's actually not playing very well.
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I’m not sure what your response has to do with my post, but I agree with your opinion
Nobody thought Woll was going to do what he has this season, nobody
Murray has been exactly what he has been for the past half decade
Now we're relying on Samsonov, an RFA with one career playoff win who was so bad the Caps didn't want to keep him
Am I supposed to clap now a team with cup aspirations has a starter with one career playoff win and a backup with about 10 games of NHL experience?
This is a monumental **** up
Murray hasn't been good, or fit for half a decade
Data my ass, that Murray trade thread was full of people asking what the hell management were thinking
Every one of them were proven right
I liked the Samsonov pickup but there's no way in hell management didn't see Murray as the #1a in a #1a #1b tandem
The cups he won years ago are the only things Murray had going for him when we traded for him
The Toronto Maple Leafs don’t have a number one goaltender, at least by definition.
Bringing in Matt Murray via trade and Ilya Samsonov via free agency, the Leafs are heading into 2022-23 with two new faces tending their goal this season, with no real indication of how either acquisition will fare in a new environment.
So, two major questions circle the Leafs as they are set to enter training camp tomorrow: how many games will each goalie play? And perhaps more importantly, can they handle the responsibility?
“With regards to the workload for both goaltenders, both have shown that they can carry the load, and we’re trying to [figure it out],” Leafs general manager Kyle Dubas said at today’s media day. “The reality is we need to get them both up and running and it’s gonna be hard to do that if one is playing all the games and the other is sitting. I think the way the schedule is at the beginning of the year kind of makes that easy to let it roll. But that said, it’s going to be based on merit. So how they play in exhibition, and how they play to start the year.”
Dubas, Keefe reveal plan for Leafs' new goalie tandem this season | Offside
The Toronto Maple Leafs don't have a number one goaltender, at least by definition, but rather seem set to be relying on a tandem setup.
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“Nothing has been promised to either and nothing will be given to [Samsonov and Murray],” Dubas added. “They’ll earn it. We have Erik Kallgren here as well. That will push [the goalies] as he did last year. That’ll be a key thing for us to watch in camp, but we’re very confident in all three.”
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CantLoseWithMatthews
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Seriously? Nobody thought Woll would be able to start and win a whopping one (1) more game than last year? Let's not act like he's been prime Hasek for us and blown away all possible expectations.
Also kind of funny that for Samsonov it's about his career playoff numbers instead of his current level of play, and for Murray it's about his current level of play and not his career playoff performance.
The Leafs went from the 25th best goaltending last year to 10th this year. If you think that counts as a "monumental f*** up", you're living in your own world
Ahem
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Good on the kid. Not really tested much last night but still made the saves he needed to. Play this guy any time over Hutchinson.
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I may be in the minority here but I like posts like this, facts are cool.The Toronto Maple Leafs don’t have a number one goaltender, at least by definition.
Bringing in Matt Murray via trade and Ilya Samsonov via free agency, the Leafs are heading into 2022-23 with two new faces tending their goal this season, with no real indication of how either acquisition will fare in a new environment.
So, two major questions circle the Leafs as they are set to enter training camp tomorrow: how many games will each goalie play? And perhaps more importantly, can they handle the responsibility?
“With regards to the workload for both goaltenders, both have shown that they can carry the load, and we’re trying to [figure it out],” Leafs general manager Kyle Dubas said at today’s media day. “The reality is we need to get them both up and running and it’s gonna be hard to do that if one is playing all the games and the other is sitting. I think the way the schedule is at the beginning of the year kind of makes that easy to let it roll. But that said, it’s going to be based on merit. So how they play in exhibition, and how they play to start the year.”
Dubas, Keefe reveal plan for Leafs' new goalie tandem this season | Offside
The Toronto Maple Leafs don't have a number one goaltender, at least by definition, but rather seem set to be relying on a tandem setup.
“Nothing has been promised to either and nothing will be given to [Samsonov and Murray],” Dubas added. “They’ll earn it. We have Erik Kallgren here as well. That will push [the goalies] as he did last year. That’ll be a key thing for us to watch in camp, but we’re very confident in all three.”
Being the playoff starting goalie was "what Murray was brought in for" has to be one of the more idiotic narratives this season. Not sure how it got started but all I can say is good grief.
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Of course they did, pretty silly to think otherwise.
Obviously it didn't turn out as planned but I think Samsonov will deliver and this whole thing will be moot.
I'm pretty sure HF started it and the media lurkers ran with it hahahaI may be in the minority here but I like posts like this, facts are cool.
Being the playoff starting goalie was "what Murray was brought in for" has to be one of the more idiotic narratives this season. Not sure how it got started but all I can say is good grief.
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"Summer of Pierre" in a nutshell, doesnt get much worse than that.
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Samsonov has had about as good of a season as could've been reasonably expected from him. I don't wanna hear any slander on this man.
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I can't speak to Murray, but for me I was playing in a tournament and ruptured 2 discs in my lower back.
No matter how hard I worked I was never the same and my career was on the clock.
After that I was in a cycle of play a season or two -> tweak the injury again -> 3 months of rehab -> play a season or two -> tweak the injury again -> 3 months of rehab and eventually body and mind just erodes until you arent even close to the same goalie because in the back of your mind every single save could be the one that puts you back on the shelf. I played about 5-6 years where I was not the same goalie - sure i'd have brief stretches where i could hit that level again, and even won a title, but it was always a time bomb.
As a non pro I hung on to the game way longer than I should have, I can only imagine how battered some of these guys must be and what they must be going through to stay in the game.
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If it makes you feel any better the Bruins are relying on a goalie with 2 playoff games played that wasn’t wanted by his team and another with 6 playoff games.
Min 40 GP:
3rd SV%
2nd GAA
4th SO
Hopefully he holds decent in playoffs.
