News Article: Colorado Avalanche Media Coverage Part VI

Foppa2118

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I'm sure I recall a previous interview with Parker where he said he didn't like Steve Moore because he was a college boy coming into the room with his brains and whatnot. Oh god turns out I'm remembering something from ten years ago: Former Avs Tough Guy Scott Parker: Moore-Bertuzzi 'Wasn't Vicious'

[Todd Bertuzzi's] a good man. He, he is. I mean, he did get dealt some bad cards, and the thing is, [Steve Moore] always thought he was better than everybody else. He went to Harvard, you know what, blow me. College grad. I never went to college, but I can kick your ass. I'll bring you right down to my IQ level if you want. I'll hit you about four times in the skull, that'll bring you right down.

And Todd, he might have gone overboard, and what's crazy is, even talking to him after the fact and talking to Moe, Morris and other boys that were in that, that happened, I watched that tape about a hundred times, and just the way Todd hit him, and he actually grabbed him to soften his blow when he went down, and what happened was when Moe landed on him, he actually hit the back of his neck and it actually popped up. You know, just the way Todd was holding him.

But you know, it wasn't vicious, it was just, it was the heat of the moment. It was one of those things where you, you want to do something, but you don't know if it's gonna be big, if it's gonna be small, or how it's gonna pan out. But you wanna do something. And Todd, he might not have been right and it might have been a little overboard, but you know, he did something. I mean, at least he responded, at least he tried.

Yeah I remember this. Parker is clearly a meathead with a massive hangup about anyone who has an IQ higher than his score of 2.

He went from calling the guy who assaulted his former teammate and ended his career a good man, to telling Moore to blow him for going to Harvard and that he can kick his ass, hit him in the head four times to bring his IQ down. Then saying Bertuzzi tried to soften the blow, and that it wasn't vicious, and at least he did something to respond to the Naslund hit.

What a disgusting bunch of revisionist bullshit from an absolute idiot.
 

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This guy mailed it in a long time ago. LOL.

Strangely it wasn't the asinine "MMA is legal" bullshit that did him in IMO, it was his lazy-ass hack piece about how the Avs were idiots for buying out Francois Beauchemin, even though he was objectively horrible for them and if they hadn't done so they would've had to protect him in the expansion draft.
 

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It's pretty clear that neither Chambers or Dater like to watch the team play nor are paying attention to the game 80% of the time.

Dream jobs for a ton of people and these two somehow landed them years ago. Always felt like they'd have prefered to do something else.
 
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I think sports reporting in general sucks these days……. Teams have taken their media and marketing more in-house and control their own information vs letting the local sports anchors / newspaper guys do it. I definitely don’t feel like the Avs are as open to letting guys like Dater in as they were in the past. I see it with the Broncos too - I don’t know how Klis has done it but he’s basically the microphone for the Broncos. In return I’ve never once seen Klis say anything controversial about the team; it’s very controlled.
 

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I wasn't a big Chambers fan, but I do think he has some personal issues (going to avoid being specific), so if he's being genuine about stepping away to take care of his health and mental well being, that's a big step, and I genuinely wish him luck.
 
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I thought he was a terrible beat writer.
He's good at posting stories but yes, he's a pretty shitty beat writer. He came across as someone who doesn't know the game of hockey all that well, to say the least.

Baugh isn't perfect but he's much better. I'm not missing Clark.
 
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Clark was professional. But I never got the impression he really loved hockey. Seems like his better articles were the ones dealing with social issues and how they reverberate throughout sports.

Baugh seems much the same. I don't get the impression he grew up wanting to hockey beat writer. But let's face it, the Avs make it really difficult for a journalist to do their job with how limited access is.
 

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Clark was professional. But I never got the impression he really loved hockey. Seems like his better articles were the ones dealing with social issues and how they reverberate throughout sports.

Baugh seems much the same. I don't get the impression he grew up wanting to hockey beat writer. But let's face it, the Avs make it really difficult for a journalist to do their job with how limited access is.

Once again I have to ask, does it matter that hockey or a specific team therein is or isn't a given writer's "dream job?" Guys like Dater and Chambers who have stated publicly their overt love of the game get slagged on here a hell of a lot more than guys like Baugh, or even Clark. If the content is good, I don't really see why anything else matters. Nothing Baugh has done indicates he's languid about the job, and honestly I don't think there's any evidence Clark ever has been either despite what the opinion of others may be.

Just seems like a continually odd exercise to suss out the career aspirations of people who cover the team based on their writing. If Peter Baugh's end goal is to cover an entirely different team or sport, I could not give a f*** less, so long as he delivers at least adequate coverage of the Avs during his time on the beat.
 

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Clark was professional. But I never got the impression he really loved hockey. Seems like his better articles were the ones dealing with social issues and how they reverberate throughout sports.

Baugh seems much the same. I don't get the impression he grew up wanting to hockey beat writer. But let's face it, the Avs make it really difficult for a journalist to do their job with how limited access is.
I mean do most people do their jobs because they love it?
 

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Once again I have to ask, does it matter that hockey or a specific team therein is or isn't a given writer's "dream job?" Guys like Dater and Chambers who have stated publicly their overt love of the game get slagged on here a hell of a lot more than guys like Baugh, or even Clark. If the content is good, I don't really see why anything else matters. Nothing Baugh has done indicates he's languid about the job, and honestly I don't think there's any evidence Clark ever has been either despite what the opinion of others may be.

Just seems like a continually odd exercise to suss out the career aspirations of people who cover the team based on their writing. If Peter Baugh's end goal is to cover an entirely different team or sport, I could not give a f*** less, so long as he delivers at least adequate coverage of the Avs during his time on the beat.
Pretty sure that is the first time I've commented on the careers of either Baugh or Clark. When I have, it's usually to actually link an article that I feel is good or noteworthy for some reason.

I wasn't try to pick a nerve.
 

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I mean do most people do their jobs because they love it?
I mean....you can tell though right. There's a reason why Russo, Portzline, and Richards shine. Those guys love what they are doing and it absolutely shows in the quality of their product. It's a very clear step above Baugh and Clark. I don't dislike either, both are professional and a very clear step above Chambers and Dater, I'm just not sure that outside of maybe two or three stories a year where they get a real good interview that they produce anything not already provided collectively here for free. Again, I want to be clear...it is my belief that the Avs make it extremely difficult for a journalist to do their job covering the team. I'm not sure Aaron would fare a lot better here, other than the fact that he has league contacts he could draw on.
 

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Yes that’s the part that’s a shame, we don’t have any sort of insightful reporting on the team. Clark and Baugh did their best but without sources they generally are just repeating info that’s already out there. Clark was better for the human interest type stuff and he interacted with the fans well on the Athletic site. Baugh keeps to himself more and is a bit more of a traditional reporter. Both are/were fine but it’s a real disappointment we can’t have the type of coverage other teams get. The Avs don’t help matters but journalism isn’t about waiting for the team to directly provide all the information. Sadly I read guys like Russo and Portzline just to glean what could be going on here.
 

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Yes that’s the part that’s a shame, we don’t have any sort of insightful reporting on the team. Clark and Baugh did their best but without sources they generally are just repeating info that’s already out there. Clark was better for the human interest type stuff and he interacted with the fans well on the Athletic site. Baugh keeps to himself more and is a bit more of a traditional reporter. Both are/were fine but it’s a real disappointment we can’t have the type of coverage other teams get. The Avs don’t help matters but journalism isn’t about waiting for the team to directly provide all the information. Sadly I read guys like Russo and Portzline just to glean what could be going on here.
The Avs don't leak anything simply because nobody is there insisting and digging enough. Put any competent journalist who cares about the team, give him/her a few months and we'll get scoops like most other markets.

It's not like the teams up here in Canada want to leak stuff, it happens because journalists are actively working for it.

I'm sure it's similar with the Broncos in Denver.
 
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