Player Discussion: Cole Perfetti 10th OA pick

[LowLefty]

I'm not either. As of now when he is in the lineup it's playing a real dumbed down chip and chase game on line 4. That doesn't at all suit his skill set. Maybe when we have a full lineup Bones may trust his 4th line to do a bit more and he'll have an opportunity to contribute more.

Anyhow the org won't be as deep next year due to the cap so they'll need contributions from him on a cheap bridge.

But I do hope Bones knows what he's doing with Cole. I'd have given him another shot on line two as it is contributing nothing to the team the last 10 games. But Bones will give his vets a lot of leash.

Line two is going to be reconfigured next week anyway - I think this was coming and Bones simply moved up the timeline by a game.
I think the org knows what they are doing - and I'd assume it's more than Bones in on this when you consider this is a fairly high profile prospect that was drafted high - they are not going to make any decisions in a silo.
When you add a couple of guys to your top 6, unfortunately, there will be casualties - Cole will be fine and is a big part of the org's future.

 

[surixon]

One game scratched not a problem but if it is a ongoing thing worries me. If he comes back and his TOI is minimal is another issue

He's got an old school, tough love coach. This happened to Seguin early in his career on a deep cup winning team and he turned out fine.

Cole will be fine. He just needs to channel this into the offseason and ensure it doesn't happen again.

 

[Finster8]

i don't see his TOI or situation being much different now w/ toffoli in the fold. he was getting scratched/4th line for iafallo, now a superior player has been added. doubt he will see or is really a fit for lowry's line either.

So as you say he is

 

[DRW204]

So as you say he is

yes

 

[surixon]

Line two is going to be reconfigured next week anyway - I think this was coming and Bones simply moved up the timeline by a game.
I think the org knows what they are doing - and I'd assume it's more than Bones in on this when you consider this is a fairly high profile prospect that was drafted high - they are not going to make any decisions in a silo.
When you add a couple of guys to your top 6, unfortunately, there will be casualties - Cole will be fine and is a big part of the org's future.

Well let's hope they are right about line 2. It's been awful and Monhan hasn't been good enough after a good start. I do hope Bones isn't rigid and forces Sean as 2C if that lien continues to struggle.

I would hope the org has a strong pulse on what's going on here and have a plan that is clearly being communicated with Cole. This is very different then how they have done things with any of their past top prospects. Seems like they are taking the Seguin Boston route to me. But that was Tyler's rookie year and not sophomore year like it is with Cole.

 

[Maukkis]

He's got an old school, tough love coach. This happened to Seguin early in his career on a deep cup winning team and he turned out fine.

Cole will be fine. He just needs to channel this into the offseason and ensure it doesn't happen again.

It's probably worth noting that it happened on another team.

 

[surixon]

It's probably worth noting that it happened on another team.

True, but similar situations deep team that had a coach who preferred vets that wanted to win a cup.

 

[Maukkis]

True, but similar situations deep team that had a coach who preferred vets that wanted to win a cup.

4th line Perfetti is probably not the way you go for the most wins, but you do have a point.

Also, all of this would be a complete non-issue, if only Bowness could break the Lowry line apart and try different combinations for the top 9. This is just playing with fire with a upcoming RFA with a lot to lose.

 

[surixon]

4th line Perfetti is probably not the way you go for the most wins, but you do have a point.

Also, all of this would be a complete non-issue, if only Bowness could break the Lowry line apart and try different combinations for the top 9. This is just playing with fire with a upcoming RFA with a lot to lose.

Oh I agree. It's not at all how I would do it, but it seems Chevy is allowing Bones to Bones.

He's been able to get his way all year. Cole off center, Cole playing lower minutes even when shooting the lights out, Cole demoted for a cold spell, now Cole out of the lineup and vets brought in.

I also think there definitely could be ramifications as I can't believe Cole is at all happy with how this has gone for him. Obviously some is on him for not maintaining his production and play, but this is a coach that really hasn't put much trust in him even when playing excellent hockey.

 

[WaveRaven]

Perfetti is better than at least 3 players dressed last night. I don't get it he's not a defensive liability.

 

[ps241]

Perfetti is better than at least 3 players dressed last night. I don't get it he's not a defensive liability.

Cole’s main challenge is the mother of all cold streaks and tenure. Once he gets his vet union card he will become untouchable too (I kind of kid)

Bones has the team winning this season so I give him a pass for now.

Cole is fighting it right now but this too shall pass. Once you get past the top 4 kids in his draft class the vast majority of his piers are struggling this season too. Not an easy league.

 

[surixon]

Cole’s main challenge is the mother of all cold streaks and tenure. Once he gets his vet union card he will become untouchable too (I kind of kid)

Bones has the team winning this season so I give him a pass for now.

Cole is fighting it right now but this too shall pass. Once you get past the top 4 kids in his draft class the vast majority of his piers are struggling this season too. Not an easy league.

Sophomore slump. It happens but coach isn't doing him any favors either.

 

[bustamente]

I still think Perfetti will be a huge part of this team in the future, Jets have added a couple of pieces in the last month or so and he is the odd man out atm, he hasn't played that badly but he hasn't been impressive lately either. Bones must feel that the guys ahead of him offer more to the team on the ice going forward.

 

[ps241]

I still think Perfetti will be a huge part of this team in the future, Jets have added a couple of pieces in the last month or so and he is the odd man out atm, he hasn't played that badly but he hasn't been impressive lately either. Bones must feel that the guys ahead of him offer more to the team on the ice going forward.

I have unflappable faith in Cole long term and I get that Bones is here to win this season and Chevy has loaded up. There still may be another act to Cole’s story this season and playoffs so we’ll see.

 

[TS Quint]

One game scratched not a problem but if it is a ongoing thing worries me. If he comes back and his TOI is minimal is another issue

Too bad the goal of the team isn't to not offend Perfetti. Unfortunately for him the goal is to ice the best team possible. He can be the cry baby you seem to think he is or he can do something about it.

 

[TS Quint]

Well let's hope they are right about line 2. It's been awful and Monhan hasn't been good enough after a good start. I do hope Bones isn't rigid and forces Sean as 2C if that lien continues to struggle.

I would hope the org has a strong pulse on what's going on here and have a plan that is clearly being communicated with Cole. This is very different then how they have done things with any of their past top prospects. Seems like they are taking the Seguin Boston route to me. But that was Tyler's rookie year and not sophomore year like it is with Cole.

Perfetti us nothing like Seguin in anyway. Seguin's problem was maturity not talent. Perfetti's problem is talent not maturity.

 

[surixon]

Perfetti us nothing like Seguin in anyway. Seguin's problem was maturity not talent. Perfetti's problem is talent not maturity.

Disagree. But your welcome to your opinion.

 

[NA Hockey]

Perfetti us nothing like Seguin in anyway. Seguin's problem was maturity not talent. Perfetti's problem is talent not maturity.

I don’t think talent is the issue, confidence is and a coach that prefers vets.

 

[bustamente]

I have unflappable faith in Cole long term and I get that Bones is here to win this season and Chevy has loaded up. There still may be another act to Cole’s story this season and playoffs so we’ll see.

No doublt I expect him back in the lineup before the playoffs maybe even tomorrow depending on Vilardi. Who knows maybe he pots a couple giving him some cache and Bones more options.

 

[TS Quint]

Disagree. But your welcome to your opinion.

About what? Everyone knew Seguin had the ability. He was 2nd overall. Many probably would have taken him 1st. He was immature and not fitting in. Perfetti is obviously mature but he doesn't have the talent at the moment. Potential, absolutely. But that talent hasn't blossomed yet. That's why he isn't playing. This team isn't about developing Perfetti or Heinola or any underperforming young player. The goals are far bigger. He can cry about it or he can figure it out.

 

[surixon]

About what? Everyone knew Seguin had the ability. He was 2nd overall. Many probably would have taken him 1st. He was immature and not fitting in. Perfetti is obviously mature but he doesn't have the talent at the moment. Potential, absolutely. But that talent hasn't blossomed yet. That's why he isn't playing. This team isn't about developing Perfetti or Heinola or any underperforming young player. The goals are far bigger. He can cry about it or he can figure it out.

I mean, he had plenty of talent when carrying the second line the first half of the year. He hit a slump, happens to everyone especially young players. That isn't a matter of talent, but a matter of confidence and experience imo.

Seguin as rookie wasn't put on the fourth line due to maturity, he was there due to Boston having a deep team and wanting to win a cup.

Same thing, coach wanted his vets to play more so they could win. No difference.

 

[TS Quint]

I don’t think talent is the issue, confidence is and a coach that prefers vets.

No, the coach has a player who has 2 points in his last 21 games playing in his top 6. How much more of a leash does any player deserve before the coach has to do something? It might be his confidence or he hasn't adjusted to the riggers of the NHL schedule. It's doesn't matter. Something needs to be done about it.

 

[10Ducky10]

I'd play him with Scheif and a bigger winger like Vilardi or Nino or Barron.

 

[ps241]

No doublt I expect him back in the lineup before the playoffs maybe even tomorrow depending on Vilardi. Who knows maybe he pots a couple giving him some cache and Bones more options.

We have 19 games left which is almost a quarter of the season so lots can happen (injuries etc). With that being said this time of year seems to go faster leading into the playoffs and bones has got a few new assets to integrate and try to get the team playing his way.

We’ll see how it comes together.

 

[surixon]

No, the coach has a player who has 2 points in his last 21 games playing in his top 6. How much more of a leash does any player deserve before the coach has to do something? It might be his confidence or he hasn't adjusted to the riggers of the NHL schedule. It's doesn't matter. Something needs to be done about it.

He's been on the fourth line for roughly 10 of those 21 games. Noone is producing points on that line. Namestnikov didn't, neither did Iafallo. Heck Iafallo has 1 point in 10 games on line 2 that isn't an en point. I think Perfetti is getting signaled out for a much larger problem with this team.