Player Discussion: Cole Perfetti 10th OA pick

[DRW204]

I think Overcharge tells him to bridge.

i wouldn't be surprised if they do end up bridging either. ultimately depends what Perfetti wants, however think a bridge is what KO would push for, & then argue for him to get top line minutes or play Center. couple years down the road - cap is increasing, 2 of your high profile top-6 wingers in Ehlers will have either been extended or gone, and KC will be a pending UFA as well. Perfetti's on pace for 56 pts, and back-to-back ~50+ pt years (pts pace in both seasons), what would you propose for a bridge?

 

[10Ducky10]

i wouldn't be surprised if they do end up bridging either. ultimately depends what Perfetti wants, however think a bridge is what KO would push for, & then argue for him to get top line minutes or play Center. couple years down the road - cap is increasing, 2 of your high profile top-6 wingers in Ehlers will have either been extended or gone, and KC will be a pending UFA as well. Perfetti's on pace for 56 pts, and back-to-back ~50+ pt years (pts pace in both seasons), what would you propose for a bridge?

2 x 3.75m.

 

[surixon]

I think Overcharge tells him to bridge.

I'm fairly certain Cole tells his agent what to do not vis versa. If Cole wants a long term deal and the Jets do as well then that is what his agent will work towards. But bridge is the likely outcome just due to the cap situation.

 

[10Ducky10]

I'm fairly certain Cole tells his agent what to do not vis versa. If Cole wants a long term deal and the Jets do as well then that is what his agent will work towards. But bridge is the likely outcome just due to the cap situation.

Sorry, I should have said suggests instead of tells.

 

[Teppo Numenor]

I think Overcharge tells him to bridge

Caufield set the price at 8x7.85

 

[surixon]

Caufield set the price at 8x7.85

Yeah, there are a number of long term contracts to similar caliber players out there. It would be fairly easy to find one if that is how both parties choose to go as the market is set.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Yeah, there are a number of long term contracts to similar caliber players out there. It would be fairly easy to find one if that is how both parties choose to go as the market is set.

I wonder if Perfetti ever gets a shot at centre.

 

[NA Hockey]

I think he will get plenty of chances to play centre in the coming years.

As for contract I think there a lot of good comparable young players on long term contracts that will be the model or basis for an agreement. I would guess 7.1 to 7.5 on a 7 or 8 year deal and 5 to 5.75million a year on a three year deal.

 

[10Ducky10]

Caufield set the price at 8x7.85

I'd be ok with 8 x 7.25m.

 

[10Ducky10]

I think he will get plenty of chances to play centre in the coming years.

As for contract I think there a lot of good comparable young players on long term contracts that will be the model or basis for an agreement. I would guess 7.1 to 7.5 on a 7 or 8 year deal and 5 to 5.75million a year on a three year deal.

No 3 year deals. That brings him within 1 year of UFA and his agent is Overcharge.

Two years or long term.

 

[surixon]

No 3 year deals. That brings him within 1 year of UFA and his agent is Overcharge.

Two years or long term.

It actually brings him to two years before UFA. One year of his elc was burnt two seasons ago but he didn't get enough games to accrue a year of service towards UFA.

 

[10Ducky10]

It actually brings him to two years before UFA. One year of his elc was burnt two seasons ago but he didn't get enough games to accrue a year of service towards UFA.

Nice, didn't realize that.
Still, 2 x 3.75m.

 

[DRW204]

So what are some thoughts that happens with him post TDL?

I've seen some posts suggesting he should be moved to the 4th line after acquiring another top-6 Fwd or PB or even traded (really doubt this one will happen)

imo - i don't think playing w/ namestnikov would necessarily be a bad thing. the 2nd line when it was namestnikov/perfetti/ehlers or iafallo performed pretty well together. however, id be remiss to point out when that the 2nd line was comprised of that for half the year, the Jets were top-5 in 5v5 GF/60 overall as a team. feels like they lost the plot a bit after KC's return & the Monahan acquisition.

trading him.... granted maybe it was a couple posts on this, but really don't think this is the Jets' MO to trade a contributing player in-season. especially given above when he was producing well in a 2nd line/top-6 role for the team already. he's 22 and has had a couple of solid-ish years doubt they give up on that so quickly.

maybe it's a bit early to say, monahan/ehlers/perfetti have not been a line for to long and maybe it takes a while to further build chemistry.

 

[LowLefty]

So what are some thoughts that happens with him post TDL?

I've seen some posts suggesting he should be moved to the 4th line after acquiring another top-6 Fwd or PB or even traded (really doubt this one will happen)

imo - i don't think playing w/ namestnikov would necessarily be a bad thing. the 2nd line when it was namestnikov/perfetti/ehlers or iafallo performed pretty well together. however, id be remiss to point out when that the 2nd line was comprised of that for half the year, the Jets were top-5 in 5v5 GF/60 overall as a team. feels like they lost the plot a bit after KC's return & the Monahan acquisition.

trading him.... granted maybe it was a couple posts on this, but really don't think this is the Jets' MO to trade a contributing player in-season. especially given above when he was producing well in a 2nd line/top-6 role for the team already. he's 22 and has had a couple of solid-ish years doubt they give up on that so quickly.

maybe it's a bit early to say, monahan/ehlers/perfetti have not been a line for to long and maybe it takes a while to further build chemistry.

I think they need more time - especially if the alternative is to move him to the 4th (I don't think there is any chance he is traded TY).
a lot of posts (and not referring to this one) are ripping into our players right now and suggesting all sorts of moves - I'd suggest the opposite. Let these guys get comfortable with each other and build their games with known linemates.

I get that turning up the blender to max rotation is how we all react sometimes - but it usually isn't the answer.
The first line has not been together all that long when you consider injuries to all three of them.
And the second is now in the process of adjusting with a new center - and we all talked about the advantage of grabbing Monahan early to allow the guys to get in sync prior to the PO's - so let them do that.

IMO, I still think the biggest challenge post deadline, will be to cement the game plan (which is our d system) and allow the lines to work through any growing pains. We don't want to be dealing with either issue once we roll into the PO's. The good news is the PP is coming around and we're scoring more goals - and that was on the "to do" list recently.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

So what are some thoughts that happens with him post TDL?

I've seen some posts suggesting he should be moved to the 4th line after acquiring another top-6 Fwd or PB or even traded (really doubt this one will happen)

imo - i don't think playing w/ namestnikov would necessarily be a bad thing. the 2nd line when it was namestnikov/perfetti/ehlers or iafallo performed pretty well together. however, id be remiss to point out when that the 2nd line was comprised of that for half the year, the Jets were top-5 in 5v5 GF/60 overall as a team. feels like they lost the plot a bit after KC's return & the Monahan acquisition.

trading him.... granted maybe it was a couple posts on this, but really don't think this is the Jets' MO to trade a contributing player in-season. especially given above when he was producing well in a 2nd line/top-6 role for the team already. he's 22 and has had a couple of solid-ish years doubt they give up on that so quickly.

maybe it's a bit early to say, monahan/ehlers/perfetti have not been a line for to long and maybe it takes a while to further build chemistry.

He's just in a dry spell. That line has had a lot of changes being made recently. I give it a little more time with Monahan. If it doesn't click, Monahan is the one I move. Bring Names back to the 2nd line C spot. Monahan still contributes on ST and can take key FO while playing 4th line.

 

[hn777]

So what are some thoughts that happens with him post TDL?

I've seen some posts suggesting he should be moved to the 4th line after acquiring another top-6 Fwd or PB or even traded (really doubt this one will happen)

imo - i don't think playing w/ namestnikov would necessarily be a bad thing. the 2nd line when it was namestnikov/perfetti/ehlers or iafallo performed pretty well together. however, id be remiss to point out when that the 2nd line was comprised of that for half the year, the Jets were top-5 in 5v5 GF/60 overall as a team. feels like they lost the plot a bit after KC's return & the Monahan acquisition.

trading him.... granted maybe it was a couple posts on this, but really don't think this is the Jets' MO to trade a contributing player in-season. especially given above when he was producing well in a 2nd line/top-6 role for the team already. he's 22 and has had a couple of solid-ish years doubt they give up on that so quickly.

maybe it's a bit early to say, monahan/ehlers/perfetti have not been a line for to long and maybe it takes a while to further build chemistry.

No chance he is traded, and he shouldn't be.

While being in a slump offensively, he has been solid two-ways. That's a sign of a smart, mature player - to lock down defensively, when things are not working out offensively. And he is still - what... 22?
He is also a playdriver. He will be more than fine.
Yes, play him with Namestnikov, they have excellent chemistry and results. And play them decent minutes, thank you!

 

[surixon]

Ah the good old player is going through a rough patch so let's trade them. Has Cole been great the last 13 games, no but everyone has poor stretches.

KC just last year ended the year with 7 points in his last 16 games while sporting a -10 for instance.

Scheifele had similar poor stretches at the same age as Cole. Also as mentioned that Cole still brings good defense even when not scoring so he isn't a liability when going through a funk.

 

[ps241]

This is the last player I am worried about. He is young and adjusting his game to how his coach wants him to play in the highest league. Like every player he is going to have his hot and cold streaks. I focused on him a bit last night and I thought he looked good. Monahan is a smart player and so is Fetts, let them work through it to find chemistry.

 

[Jet]

This is the last player I am worried about. He is young and adjusting his game to how his coach wants him to play in the highest league. Like every player he is going to have his hot and cold streaks. I focused on him a bit last night and I thought he looked good. Monahan is a smart player and so is Fetts, let them work through it to find chemistry.

Yeah I thought he had a strong game against Minnesota and looks to be coming out of it.

 

[Finster8]

How does sitting him boost a young player’s confidence. If Bones isn’t playing him to succeed and we know he can do better than maybe trade him next year. Before you have him second guessing all his decision and drive his value to shit after a good start to the season. He is less of a defensive liability than many out there last night. I don’t want to see him traded but if starts getting scratched and hasn’t his whole career. It will wake him up or •••• him up time will tell. Hope they let him regain some of his strengths and confidence now and have him playing his best hockey for the playoffs

 

[tbcwpg]

How does sitting him boost a young player’s confidence. If Bones isn’t playing him to succeed and we know he can do better than maybe trade him next year. Before you have him second guessing all his decision and drive his value to shit after a good start to the season. He is less of a defensive liability than many out there last night. I don’t want to see him traded but if starts getting scratched and hasn’t his whole career. It will wake him up or •••• him up time will tell. Hope they let him regain some of his strengths and confidence know and have him playing his best hockey for the playoffs

I think a young player's confidence also isn't helped by playing a lot without contributing anything either.

He just needs to adjust to a full pro season. I'm not that concerned.

 

[DRW204]

How does sitting him boost a young player’s confidence. If Bones isn’t playing him to succeed and we know he can do better than maybe trade him next year. Before you have him second guessing all his decision and drive his value to shit after a good start to the season. He is less of a defensive liability than many out there last night. I don’t want to see him traded but if starts getting scratched and hasn’t his whole career. It will wake him up or •••• him up time will tell. Hope they let him regain some of his strengths and confidence know and have him playing his best hockey for the playoffs

he has been 2nd line/top-6 like 90% of the season so he has been playing higher up in the line-up for a majority of the year. however, the fact iafallo who has had an 18 and a 20 game drought while being positioned in the top-6+PP time still continuously gets played up there is ridiculous comparatively. he's a big boy i don't think scratching him wont derail his career or utterly shatter his confidence.

 

[surixon]

I think a young player's confidence also isn't helped by playing a lot without contributing anything either.

He just needs to adjust to a full pro season. I'm not that concerned.

I'm not either. As of now when he is in the lineup it's playing a real dumbed down chip and chase game on line 4. That doesn't at all suit his skill set. Maybe when we have a full lineup Bones may trust his 4th line to do a bit more and he'll have an opportunity to contribute more.

Anyhow the org won't be as deep next year due to the cap so they'll need contributions from him on a cheap bridge.

But I do hope Bones knows what he's doing with Cole. I'd have given him another shot on line two as it is contributing nothing to the team the last 10 games. But Bones will give his vets a lot of leash.

 

[Finster8]

he has been 2nd line/top-6 like 90% of the season so he has been playing higher up in the line-up for a majority of the year. however, the fact iafallo who has had an 18 and a 20 game drought while being positioned in the top-6+PP time still continuously gets played up there is ridiculous comparatively. he's a big boy i don't think scratching him wont derail his career or utterly shatter his confidence.

One game scratched not a problem but if it is a ongoing thing worries me. If he comes back and his TOI is minimal is another issue

 

[DRW204]

One game scratched not a problem but if it is a ongoing thing worries me. If he comes back and his TOI is minimal is another issue

i don't see his TOI or situation being much different now w/ toffoli in the fold. he was getting scratched/4th line for iafallo, now a superior player has been added. doubt he will see or is really a fit for lowry's line either.