Player Discussion: Cole Perfetti 10th OA pick

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Perfetti getting some respect. Illegal Curve shared this from the Hockey News this morning.



He appears on a short list of 6 players listed as early favourites to win the Calder this year along with Mason McTavish, Matty Beniers, Owen Power, Jack Quinn & Andrei Kuzmenko.
 

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Perfetti getting some respect. Illegal Curve shared this from the Hockey News this morning.



He appears on a short list of 6 players listed as early favourites to win the Calder this year along with Mason McTavish, Matty Beniers, Owen Power, Jack Quinn & Andrei Kuzmenko.
Considering who he'll be playing with, he'll certainly get a chance to put up points
 

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Hmm, maybe Cole didn't want that known. Sounds like Scheifele could be guilty of a PHIA violation. Top men need to look into this. Top. Men. :nod:
When did they stop making it public what injuries players have? At some point they stopped actually telling us and just started calling it upper/lower body, what’s the purpose of that, just so other players aren’t aware and could target the injury in game?
 

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Hey everyone, sorry to bother & bump this thread. But ill be watching the Jets this season mainly cuz of this lad. & I got some questions on him.

- First question is how many goals do You think he will score this season? Any guess is appreciated.

- Im also curious on the player he is in general. How does he look so far this season? Strengths and weaknesses?



As a quick explanation for why im here; Every year in the NHL video game they do a special event and i got his card in it. Hes currently at 75 overall. Every time he scores irl his card goes up by 1 until its maxed at 99. Hense why im so curious on his goal projection this season, hed need 24 goals this season to hit Max level.

Anyway, this event is a great way to follow and root for the players & the team that they are on. So for the rest of the season ill be lurking this board, & watching the Jets whenever i can. Looking forward to it!
 

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I do not like how often he seems to get hit. Connor, Ehlers are pretty much the same size as him but rarely if ever seem to get hit. His passing and vision is NHL caliber but he can't keep getting hit like that. Hopefully getting used to NHL pace after 20-30 more games will fix that.
 

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I do not like how often he seems to get hit. Connor, Ehlers are pretty much the same size as him but rarely if ever seem to get hit. His passing and vision is NHL caliber but he can't keep getting hit like that. Hopefully getting used to NHL pace after 20-30 more games will fix that.

Well they all have 100's of games of experience now and have learned how to protect themselves. I'm sure Cole will get there as well. Conner is imo the one guy who was good at protecting himself right off the batt. Scheifele, Laine, and Ehlers all took some massive hits early bin their careers.
 

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His linemates simply weren’t ready for the insane passes they were getting from him.
I don't believe that. You can see some of the terrible or very quick passes that our forwards somehow pick up all the time. It's more likely the passes are off a bit from where they need to be or the timing is a bit off. If course some of them are just missed but you see that all the time in games.

Not to take away from Perfetti, he has great vision.
 

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I really liked how Perfetti and Scheifele looked together. Originally Cole with PLD made sense to give the kid a little protection with the big bodied center. But now that he has some time under his belt, I think it will really pay off to have him with a more creative center that can better anticipate what he wants to do.
 

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I've said this before, but last night kind of cemented it for me. This kid reminds me so much of Marc Savard that it's spooky.

Interesting -- never saw much of Savard but liked him as a player.

Still hoping for Dougie Gilmore Variant 3.0 but TBH I like Cole P just fine as the player he is now, and the even better player he's clearly going to become.

I noticed in watching last night's game and zeroing in on him just how early he gets to the points he knows the play's headed to -- sometimes more than a second early -- and then get into positions to carry the play or switch it back to more promising lanes, as he did last night in that 2nd and 3rd assist to Wheeler.

As he gets a little stronger, savvier and quicker, he's only gong to add to his skillset, and his brain should help his peak be a whole lot longer and peakier.

I loved the pick from the beginning, and I love it even more now.
 

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Gotta love the players who make the players around them look good. Whoever ends up playing with Cole better get used to the idea of the puck hitting their stick at any time. He knew exactly what he was doing with the puck on the backhand pass to wheeler way before he had it. That's a sign of a guy knowing where everyone on the ice is at all times. You can't teach that
 

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Been saying for a while once his linemates realize how good is vision is they are going to get him the puck and get themselves open and he is going to rack up the points

He will, until other teams start realizing that. I expect that opposing players will try to make sure his passing lanes are blocked.

It'll require Perfetti to then adapt his game to compensate, but he has all the tools to succeed.
 

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He will, until other teams start realizing that. I expect that opposing players will try to make sure his passing lanes are blocked.

It'll require Perfetti to then adapt his game to compensate, but he has all the tools to succeed.

Agree, and I think we saw some of that early on in the season, where other teams were clearly zeroing in on him physically and looking to run interference on him off the puck.

I think what we're seeing now is some of him adapting and some smart lineup moves in order to address some of that attention he's getting. 55 is always a threat to generate or shoot in the zone, and Wheeler is still a big, smart, creative player who isn't always easy to handle. Focus on 55 and you're leaving 91 and 26 free to do some damage. Focus on 91, and you've got 55/ 26 free to create havoc, and so on.

Ideally he's able to add some strength and explosiveness to his skating to make himself even harder to defend, but his vision puck protection skills and deceptiveness already make him a tricky player to defend -- we saw that last night on the last two Wheeler goals where he drew defenders to him while preserving the shooting option -- and we saw that wicked shot a few times also.

I think we're seeing a version of the Ehlers trajectory, with a different skillset. He isn't always going to dominate a game, or even play evenly, but he's always going to create chances for himself and others, and not be liability defensively. And as he learns he's going to be able to add new tools and the ability to adjust on the fly. Ehlers at 21 could be absolutely electrifying and then be less effective for stretches. Ehlers at 24 was a a zone-entry machine, line driver and a threat to score very consistently.

Just as Ehlers / KFC / Mack / McD in full flight are basically impossible to defend short of taking a penalty, Cole with more confidence and compatible linemates is going to be very hard to defend with the puck on or off his stick, and should be a net + all round given his responsibility and smarts.

That's a very valuable piece for a contending team.

Super excited to watch him develop.
 
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Agree, and I think we saw some of that early on in the season, where other teams were clearly zeroing in on him physically and looking to run interference on him off the puck.

I think what we're seeing now is some of him adapting and some smart lineup moves in order to address some of that attention he's getting. 55 is always a threat to generate or shoot in the zone, and Wheeler is still a big, smart, creative player who isn't always easy to handle. Focus on 55 and you're leaving 91 and 26 free to do some damage. Focus on 91, and you've got 55/ 26 free to create havoc, and so on.

Ideally he's able to add some strength and explosiveness to his skating to make himself even harder to defend, but his vision puck protection skills and deceptiveness already make him a tricky player to defend -- we saw that last night on the last two Wheeler goals where he drew defenders to him while preserving the shooting option -- and we saw that wicked shot a few times also.

I think we're seeing a version of the Ehlers trajectory, with a different skillset. He isn't always going to dominate a game, or even play evenly, but he's always going to create chances for himself and others, and not be liability defensively. And as he learns he's going to be able to add new tools and the ability to adjust on the fly. Ehlers at 21 could be absolutely electrifying and then be less effective for stretches. Ehlers at 24 was a a zone-entry machine, line driver and a threat to score very consistently.

Just as Ehlers / KFC / Mack in full flight are basically impossible to defend short of taking a penalty, Cole with more confidence and compatible linemates is going to be very hard to defend with the puck on or off his stick, and should be a net + all round given his responsibility and smarts.

That's a very valuable piece for a contending team.

I agree with your assessment. You phrased it better than I ever could.

I ranked him pretty highly in his draft year (I could have seen him go as high as 4th OA), so I was super happy he dropped to 10.

I'm already wondering where he'd go in a re-draft.
 

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Agree, and I think we saw some of that early on in the season, where other teams were clearly zeroing in on him physically and looking to run interference on him off the puck.

I think what we're seeing now is some of him adapting and some smart lineup moves in order to address some of that attention he's getting. 55 is always a threat to generate or shoot in the zone, and Wheeler is still a big, smart, creative player who isn't always easy to handle. Focus on 55 and you're leaving 91 and 26 free to do some damage. Focus on 91, and you've got 55/ 26 free to create havoc, and so on.

Ideally he's able to add some strength and explosiveness to his skating to make himself even harder to defend, but his vision puck protection skills and deceptiveness already make him a tricky player to defend -- we saw that last night on the last two Wheeler goals where he drew defenders to him while preserving the shooting option -- and we saw that wicked shot a few times also.

I think we're seeing a version of the Ehlers trajectory, with a different skillset. He isn't always going to dominate a game, or even play evenly, but he's always going to create chances for himself and others, and not be liability defensively. And as he learns he's going to be able to add new tools and the ability to adjust on the fly. Ehlers at 21 could be absolutely electrifying and then be less effective for stretches. Ehlers at 24 was a a zone-entry machine, line driver and a threat to score very consistently.

Just as Ehlers / KFC / Mack in full flight are basically impossible to defend short of taking a penalty, Cole with more confidence and compatible linemates is going to be very hard to defend with the puck on or off his stick, and should be a net + all round given his responsibility and smarts.

That's a very valuable piece for a contending team.

Super excited to watch him develop.
I think he already has the makings to be the best 2 way of them.
 
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He will, until other teams start realizing that. I expect that opposing players will try to make sure his passing lanes are blocked.

It'll require Perfetti to then adapt his game to compensate, but he has all the tools to succeed.

I feel teams have already been game planning him. Look at the PP, they aren't giving him the cross seam pass to Schmidt any longer cause they know he'll torch them on it of they do.

They also are trying to take it away from him at 5 on 5 on zone entries. He hasn't made really any seam passes lately because it's being defended. That just has lead to him coming up with different things like on the take it in and shoot for the rebound that gave Pionk a great look following up on the play.

Another player comp that I see is a younger Giroux.
 

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