Player Discussion Cole Caufield: The little man with the big future.

[1909]

I hope he will stay healthy and score 40+ goals this year. One half season to go !

 

[Sorinth]

Caufield now has 45 goals in 77 games under MSL.

Already tied his 23 goals from last season.

The truly impressive part is the even strength goals over that period (35). He's 1 even strength goal from tying the league leader over that time period.

 

[SlafySZN]

The truly impressive part is the even strength goals over that period (35). He's 1 even strength goal from tying the league leader over that time period.

That’s crazy to think about

40 of his 50 career goals are even strength

10 PP goals. Funny how some tried to say he was a power play merchant lol.

 

[ahmedou]

1) Richard (50 goals in 76 games)
2) Beliveau (50 goals in 105 games)
3) Geoffrion (50 goals in 114 games)
4) Caufield (50 goals in 117 games)
5) Lafleur (50 goals in 126 games)

PS: 23 goals in 67 games (2021-2022) vs 23 goals in 40 games (2022-2023)

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

1) Richard (50 goals in 76 games)
2) Beliveau (50 goals in 105 games)
3) Geoffrion (50 goals in 114 games)
4) Caufield (50 goals in 117 games)
5) Lafleur (50 goals in 126 games)

PS: 23 goals in 67 games (2021-2022) vs 23 goals in 40 games (2022-2023)

Would’ve been even better with a decent coach at the start.

Once again the regime change came just in time for him. Our other prospects weren’t so lucky. And now all of a sudden we’re producing players again.

What a coincidence.

 

[tooji]

The truly impressive part is the even strength goals over that period (35). He's 1 even strength goal from tying the league leader over that time period.

I contend that if we have a decent powerplay he’s contending for the richard

 

[KevSkillz4]

The most excited thing it's that in his last 11 games, Caufield put 7 goals. Habs in their last 11 games are really bad. 7 goals in 11 games it's a 54 goal season after 82 games. Imagine when Habs are going to be a good team...

 

[1909]

That’s crazy to think about

40 of his 50 career goals are even strength

10 PP goals. Funny how some tried to say he was a power play merchant lol.

Just imagine IF Habs would have a proper PP with a proper QB and PP system.

 

[SlafySZN]

Just imagine IF Habs would have a proper PP with a proper QB and PP system.

He’ll score 50 + for sure one day

 

[Habs]

With Bedard, Fantilli and PLD he will be 45-55 goals

 

[1909]

With Bedard, Fantilli and PLD he will be 45-55 goals

... And IF (which is 90% possible), Habs never have any of these players ?

 

[The Great Weal]

... And IF (which is 90% possible), Habs never have any of these players ?

He's already pretty close to that range playing with one first liner. If the team can't get another top end forward and dman to help them contribute we will remain a bottom 10 team.

 

[1909]

He's already pretty close to that range playing with one first liner. If the team can't get another top end forward and dman to help them contribute we will remain a bottom 10 team.

Patience. Habs have many very good young D who will eventually pan out. Dach, Farrell, Roy, Beck, Mesar, Slaf will be there to support Suzuki and Caufield.

 

[The Great Weal]

Patience. Habs have many very good young D who will eventually pan out. Dach, Farrell, Roy, Beck, Mesar, Slaf will be there to support Suzuki and Caufield.

None of those guys except maybe Slaf in the future are 1st line caliber guys. Habs have good depth at D but none of them scream superstar.

 

[1909]

None of those guys except maybe Slaf in the future are 1st line caliber guys. Habs have good depth at D but none of them scream superstar.

Habs will finish bottom six and get a very, very good player (forward) anyway. And it could be Bedard if they win the lottery.

According to some, 6 or 7 top 2023 prospects would had been drafted before Slaf or any other 2022 draftees. Lots of quality.

 

[Habs]

... And IF (which is 90% possible), Habs never have any of these players ?

I dunno, I've lost faith in this club a long time ago to do things correctly. Just dreaming on what could be but most certainly will not.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

With Bedard, Fantilli and PLD he will be 45-55 goals

He'll probably be 45 goals this year.

With Bedard he'd be 120 goals.

 

[Andy]

He needs 17 goals in the next 42 games to hit 40. I say he does it

 

[Habs]

He needs 17 goals in the next 42 games to hit 40. I say he does it

lets hope there are no more injuries and we don't have to call up 35 yr old Laval players who work at home depot on the weekends to make ends meet.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

He needs 17 goals in the next 42 games to hit 40. I say he does it

The real question is: can he can hit 27 in 42?

 

[Ezpz]

He easily could have been right behind Richard without Ducharme.

 

[SOLR]

Sounds a lot like (a) Suzuki or (b) Armia?

Suzuki at 17 years old was not in the best at Hlinka. Yager has always been ahead of Suzuki in terms of draft profile thus far. Yager, Fantilli, and Michkov were always the 3 mentioned with Bedard, 4, 3, 2 ,1 years ago.

Suzuki had significant holes in his game at the same age.

 

[NotProkofievian]

It seems to be regardless of position.

Reinbacher seems too much like Armia!
Ritchie seems too much like Armia!
Yager seems to much like Armia!
Slafkovsky seems too much like Armia!

Like Armia is the only f***ing NHLer.

We. Are. Armia.

What in the name of the sweet baby back ribs is this

What? nope, never said that. I'm not against trading Caufield as a whole, but not to lose more. I think Caufield will prove to be a 50g scorer that you need to babysit quite a bit even in his prime, and unlike Ovechkin he can't turn into a "2ish-way player". This means you always have to think about him in all your move (bleugrh, not my preference). I'm always scared of having 2-3 Caufields in a lineup as well, one is plenty.

Proposal: - Trade Proposal Thread: Part 61

We don't have the same definition of elite if you think Charlie McAvoy is one. Game changers are most often than not found early in the first round. Charlie "32 points career high defenseman" McAvoy is not one of them.of course he’s not elite in your book, he wasn’t picked top 3

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Bonus Hoffman comparison.

Proposal: - Trade Proposal Thread: Part 61

We don't have the same definition of elite if you think Charlie McAvoy is one. Game changers are most often than not found early in the first round. Charlie "32 points career high defenseman" McAvoy is not one of them.of course he’s not elite in your book, he wasn’t picked top 3

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[SOLR]

We. Are. Armia.

Proposal: - Trade Proposal Thread: Part 61

We don't have the same definition of elite if you think Charlie McAvoy is one. Game changers are most often than not found early in the first round. Charlie "32 points career high defenseman" McAvoy is not one of them.of course he’s not elite in your book, he wasn’t picked top 3

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Bonus Hoffman comparison.

Proposal: - Trade Proposal Thread: Part 61

We don't have the same definition of elite if you think Charlie McAvoy is one. Game changers are most often than not found early in the first round. Charlie "32 points career high defenseman" McAvoy is not one of them.of course he’s not elite in your book, he wasn’t picked top 3

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Yeah, I have no problem with the Hoffman categorization comparison. Hoffman in his prime was more useful and faster than he is now, but Caufield is in the same category: very much a 1 one-way goal scorer. Caufield on the 3rd line will never be useful. Caufield is obviously more talented/better than Hoffman. Categorization isn't an evaluation of quality at the individual level - it's just a description of the role.

That trade proposal was Caufield for Slaf, in order to come out of the same draft with 2 blue chips (potentially more, I was not descriptive of the exact trade), the key aspect of this argument is that I don't believe (yet) in Caufield being the kind of player you win with. You guys are sold on Caufield, and I like that he's scoring a lot, but I'm not sure if I send him out there in critical playoffs situation, in a tight series. Same thing with Zegras in Anaheim, I've been expecting them to bounce back and he just can't get involved enough. Razzle Dazzle.

 

[SlafySZN]

Yeah, I have no problem with the Hoffman categorization comparison. Hoffman in his prime was more useful and faster than he is now, but Caufield is in the same category: very much a 1 one-way goal scorer. Caufield on the 3rd line will never be useful. Caufield is obviously more talented/better than Hoffman. Categorization isn't an evaluation of quality at the individual level - it's just a description of the role.

That trade proposal was Caufield for Slaf, in order to come out of the same draft with 2 blue chips (potentially more, I was not descriptive of the exact trade), the key aspect of this argument is that I don't believe (yet) in Caufield being the kind of player you win with. You guys are sold on Caufield, and I like that he's scoring a lot, but I'm not sure if I send him out there in critical playoffs situation, in a tight series. Same thing with Zegras in Anaheim, I've been expecting them to bounce back and he just can't get involved enough. Razzle Dazzle.

Yeah, I have no problem with the Hoffman categorization comparison. Hoffman in his prime was more useful and faster than he is now, but Caufield is in the same category: very much a 1 one-way goal scorer. Caufield on the 3rd line will never be useful. Caufield is obviously more talented/better than Hoffman. Categorization isn't an evaluation of quality at the individual level - it's just a description of the role.

That trade proposal was Caufield for Slaf, in order to come out of the same draft with 2 blue chips (potentially more, I was not descriptive of the exact trade), the key aspect of this argument is that I don't believe (yet) in Caufield being the kind of player you win with. You guys are sold on Caufield, and I like that he's scoring a lot, but I'm not sure if I send him out there in critical playoffs situation, in a tight series. Same thing with Zegras in Anaheim, I've been expecting them to bounce back and he just can't get involved enough. Razzle Dazzle.

That comment about Hughes turning Caufield as a ‘’30 goal scorer’’ overnight is aging very badly and it’s only a year… lol as if he needs Hughe to score 30, everyone knew it was caufield’s floor.