Confirmed Signing with Link: [COL] G Mackenzie Blackwood signs extension with the Avalanche (5 years, $5.25M AAV)

[enthuuusiast]

They literally just need an NHL caliber goalie and Blackwood is at least that. What do you expect them to do when they have a core like that?

 

[SI90]

I like Blackwood but is this too soon to make that kind of commitment?

 

[PattyLafontaine]

Ah, good to see! You're using a very recent set of standards here.

Now tell me how many of these goalies have Blackwood numbers of their last multiple years? Certainly not Swayman or Bobrovsky (he has had some bad regular seasons in Florida, so maybe it's not far off) and maybe Binnington, who isn't all that good.

Skinner is f***in shit. He'll be the next to get a contract like this because the Oilers are dumb.

Why would anyone evalaute a goalkeeper on what they did 2-3 years ago. I merely posted what those netminders have done this year and they've been far worse than Blackwood with some having much better teams and defenses.

Blackwood had a .909 sv pct and more importantly he has the best HDSV pct in the league with an atrocious defense in front of him.

He's been excellent for Colorado as expected and they only need a netwminder that that can give them quality starts 2/3rds of the time. So far he's 4 out of 4 in terms of quality starts hence the .931 sv pct and the 2.03 GAA in his first four for Colorado. He's got the 6th highest sv pct of all qualifying netminders.

 

[Romang67]

Admittedly the cap hasnt jumped as much as i thought. But some of these goalies worse than Blackwood (the 1B types) who got $5m (or more) a few years ago would be around $6m under next year's cap. So Blackwood, a much better goalie, could certainly command $7m.

Performance after contract in the case of Grubauer and Kuemper is relevant, when you claim they're good goalies (who just happened to he playing on a wagon of a team), because that claim is pretty easily disproven when you look at how their play went to shit being away from the great team. Georgiev also looked great behind that defence until the D unit fell off and Georgiev got exposed

A goalie who signed for $5M in 2022 would be equivalent to a goalie signing for $5.5M in 2025, assuming the cap actually rises to $92M, which it very well may not. Why would that indicate that Blackwood could get $7M?

Why would the performance after the contract signing be relevant? If, as you seem to be saying, teams would look at how those goalies performed after they left Colorado, then why would any team be willing to pay big money for a goalie to sign away from Colorado?

 

[lionsDen]

Like what I’ve seen so far, but I said that about georgiev

 

[paragon]

system is way less of a factor for goalies. not sure what youre talking about

It's the opposite. Systems make goalies look better then they are.

 

[JKG33]

A goalie who signed for $5M in 2022 would be equivalent to a goalie signing for $5.5M in 2025, assuming the cap actually rises to $92M, which it very well may not. Why would that indicate that Blackwood could get $7M?

Why would the performance after the contract signing be relevant? If, as you seem to be saying, teams would look at how those goalies performed after they left Colorado, then why would any team be willing to pay big money for a goalie to sign away from Colorado?

Because Blackwood is better than them.

Ignore that we're talking about Colorado re Kuemper/Gru. Instead look at 2 mediocre goalies getting paid after being carried by an excellent D.

The Colorado D that Goergiev looked great behind is a far cry from what it is today. Manson is kinda washed. No Byram. They don't have the depth they did

 

[Avsfan1921]

Truly disappointed in the effort he put forth tonight after signing that big contract. Really hope they are able to move him before the deadline.

 

[redandyellowcametobe]

Another .971 SV% tonight and was an absolute brick wall

Idk man, he looks so darn sound this year. We will see.

 

[Muffin]

Truly disappointed in the effort he put forth tonight after signing that big contract. Really hope they are able to move him before the deadline.

No shut out, rip up the contract please.

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

now you haters all look stupid, you have to go back and edit your posts and say it's only a five-game hot streak

 

[PattyLafontaine]

5 games 5 quality starts 1.82 GAA sv pct of .940 for Colorado.

With the Sharks he was GAA of 3.00 with a sv pct of .909

Totals for the year GAA of 2.75 with a sv pct of .916

 

[MonkeysUncle]

He gave them 4 good games so they're paying him already

Considering Blackwood has a -29.5 GSAA in the 4 years before this year (82 games with NJ and 44 games with San Jose), I'm not exactly sure why Colorado is rushing to give him an extension. Unless he's coming in cheap I don't see why they don't just wait until March or so, when he'll have a larger sample size of games.

This reminds me of when the Oilers gave Koskinen a decent sized deal because he was good for them for half a season, and he proceeded to be terrible for the majority of that deal.

Reminds me of Rob Blake giving Cal Peterson 5 million x 3 and boy that didn't work out

 

[forsbergavs32]

I like Blackwood but is this too soon to make that kind of commitment?

Tonight was the 5th date, had to put a ring on it.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Tonight aside, it's confusing me that people are saying this is a bad deal or that the Avs could have signed him for less.

As others have pointed out, he's set to be the 17th highest paid goalie next year. For any goalie that has shown he can handle a starters load, they are earning at least 5M on UFA deals.

Kuemper
Daccord
Grubauer
Hill (had just won cup, started the POs as a backup)
Jarry
Campbell
Ullmark
Swayman
Korpisalo
Shesterkin
Saros

And UFAs rarely sign for under 3 years, especially starting Gs. So you might not like the player, or like the contracts to most of the above players, but it's objectively false to say it's not market value for a starting goalie. It's the new market and someone would have paid him near that amount regardless.

The Avs made their choice who they wanted as their 5M man, and it seems like a good bet so far. They've tried the bargain bin for goalies the last few years and learned their lesson. They also can't afford to pay a goalie any more without drastically altering their cap makeup, and had they waited, Blackwood would have likely played himself out of the Avs price range. Best to get him locked up before his stats begin to inflate on a much better team.

Given the moment in time, can the people claiming this is a bad deal come up with a realistic better option for this season and next? The only option I see is maybe Askarov, but that would not be without its risk and inherent price, and they certainly inquired. It's a bit perplexing so many think this is such a bad deal for them.

 

[landstuhltaylor]

Prior to the goalie trades the Avs had given up 41 first period goals in 26 games. They've given up 4 in the 11 games since then.

They don't need a top goalie, they just need competence. If they can get that from Blackwood over the course of a contract it's a good signing.

 

[Czechboy]

Seems like a over reaction. Like the ava. Like Blackwood. I would've waited longer.

 

[Ncit3]

Prior to the goalie trades the Avs had given up 41 first period goals in 26 games. They've given up 4 in the 11 games since then.

They don't need a top goalie, they just need competence. If they can get that from Blackwood over the course of a contract it's a good signing.

Finally someone that understands. We don't need an all-star. We need league average.

 

[The Merchant]

It should also be noted that the Avs effectively targeted a guy that would be a good fit. They tend to bleed high danger chances and that's what Blackwood is best at.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Loser couldn’t even get a shutout on 35 shots tonight. Fire him into the sun.

 

[TheDoldrums]

the 24 games this season are definitely much more indicative of his skill and predictive going forward than the previous 124 games where he was under a .900 SV%

 

[Hasbro]

The Avalanche signed him after four more games than any new UFA or traded RFA plays for a team.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

The Avs don’t treat goaltenders like other teams do. They see it like running backs in the NFL. Often interchangeable. The AVS aren’t getting any of the top legitimate goalies, and all the rest are all over the place in terms of quality from year to year.
The UFAs to be are nothing specialx and they just spent assets getting Blackwood. 4 games is actually pretty long for the Avs.
Both grubauer and Georgiev were signed immediately.

The AVS simply want acceptable goaltending. If they think the guy they have can give it to them, and the contract is within their range, they will accept the player.

This makes no sense. NFL RBs don’t get 5 year deals unless they are elite. Blackwood isn’t anywhere close to elite, borderline starter quality with definite injury concerns. Move makes zero sense from the Avs perspective

 

[dmcccdmn]

I think it was a big miss by San Jose/Grier for not converting that 2nd to a 1st contingent on contract extension. If they're extending him, that means he's playing well for them and it's working out well.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I think it was a big miss by San Jose/Grier for not converting that 2nd to a 1st contingent on contract extension. If they're extending him, that means he's playing well for them and it's working out well.

It’s precluded. You can’t have that contingency.