Confirmed Signing with Link: [COL] D Devon Toews signs extension with the Avalanche (7 years, $7.25M AAV)

[McJedi]

Wow. He took a pretty big discount to stay. He’s a much better player than Nurse, Jones and Power.

 

[Bounces R Way]

That's a really solid deal for a great top pairing defenseman. For my money he's the best #2 in the league.

The he's a definitive #1 on 90% of other teams talk is rich tho. You don't know that. Posting charts that are mostly dependent on what team he plays on isn't proving anything.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Damnnn that’s a deal.

 

[SI90]

Not to pile on but I always thought it was unusual how Toews was such a darkhorse, coming from nowhere to be a great young defenseman and the team that knew him best just gave him up.

Isles fan is trying to tell everybody and everybody laughed at us about how good he was. The reason we thought it was OK to trade him was they played in a defensive system and I thought we were keeping Leddy. They ended up trading Letty a year later, which made no sense because Toews signed a sweetheart deal.

 

[Three On Zero]

This may be one of the best contracts in the league

 

[flyfysher]

Wow. He took a pretty big discount here.

It’s a poke in the collectIve eye of all the other cash strapped likely PO teams.

 

[Muffin]

Isles fan is trying to tell everybody and everybody laughed at us about how good he was. The reason we thought it was OK to trade him was they played in a defensive system and I thought we were keeping Leddy. They ended up trading Letty a year later, which made no sense because Toews signed a sweetheart deal.

That’s not what I remembered. He was coming off a rough series against Tampa and lots of Isles fans was down on him.

 

[OG Eberle]

This contract just speaks to the kind of person he is. He's a gem, team-first, loves to win. Avs shouldve given him eight years instead of seven.

While this may be true, I hate this notion that the contracts players sign somehow dictate how they are as humans or what their character is.

This happens all the time on HF. Guys sign for max value and they're greedy/selfish. Guys sign a few hundred thousand or a million under what they anticipate and they're somehow a saint and giving player.

It's just business guys. Two mutually exclusive events.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

That's a really solid deal for a great top pairing defenseman. For my money he's the best #2 in the league.

The he's a definitive #1 on 90% of other teams talk is rich tho. You don't know that. Posting charts that are mostly dependent on what team he plays on isn't proving anything.

Yes we do....


90% is maybe a little high since that would indicate he's basically a Top 5 guy... But he's a legit #1D, Top ~15 for sure and would be the #1 on more then half the teams in the league. You can literally look up any Dman ranking and they all have him inside the Top 15, or in HF Boards DMan ranking he was 16th.

 

[Shesty31]

Happy for my fellow Quinnipiac Alum. Crazy good deal for the AVS as well.

 

[Kerberos]

Toewser... why are hockey nicknames so ridiculously unimaginative good lord.

 

[missionAvs]

Amazing deal.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Yes we do....


90% is maybe a little high since that would indicate he's basically a Top 5 guy... But he's a legit #1D, Top ~15 for sure and would be the #1 on more then half the teams in the league. You can literally look up any Dman ranking and they all have him inside the Top 15, or in HF Boards DMan ranking he was 16th.

Believing something != Knowing something

That's great he's ranked high. Like I said I think he's really really good. But legit #1D are the best defenseman on their team. Toews isn't the best defenseman on his pair. Legit #1D have actually played and been deployed and produced at both ends of the ice like a #1D. I don't think you can say he's earned that label when he's never actually done the job other than handfuls of games when Makar is out.

 

[Sabre the Win]

I think it's a fair deal, given his age, he is guaranteed to be paid for another 8 years even if he starts to slip in 5 years and he's not close to what he is now, the contract won't be a burden on the Avs with the cap going up.

 

[Zirakzigil]

That’s an insane aav for him. He really gave the Avs a discount.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Isles fan is trying to tell everybody and everybody laughed at us about how good he was. The reason we thought it was OK to trade him was they played in a defensive system and I thought we were keeping Leddy. They ended up trading Letty a year later, which made no sense because Toews signed a sweetheart deal.

It's crazy being in the NYC hockey market and seeing whenever players leave the Devils/Isles, the rest of the league finds out how good their players are. More so, when guys left back in the day for us and more recently for you guys.

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

Believing something != Knowing something

That's great he's ranked high. Like I said I think he's really really good. But legit #1D are the best defenseman on their team. Toews isn't the best defenseman on his pair. Legit #1D have actually played and been deployed and produced at both ends of the ice like a #1D. I don't think you can say he's earned that label when he's never actually done the job other than handfuls of games when Makar is out.

I’ve watched somewhere in the vicinity of 95% of the games Toews has played in an Avalanche sweater and I can absolutely tell you that he is a #1D. He checks every box: skating, defending, gap control, decision-making, physicality, transition play, special teams, goal scoring, and stick work. Just because Makar does everything better than him doesn’t mean there’s a weakness in his game. And to add a hot take to this thread, Makar benefits more from Toews than vice versa.

 

[NyQuil]

Well done Avs.

 

[OilersFanatics505]

Solid for the Avs. You take how it will hurt you in years 5-7 to get that AAV now when you need it.

 

[quesosauce]

he's never actually done the job other than handfuls of games when Makar is out.

Makar has missed more than a handful of games, he missed 20+ last season alone and Toews has filled in and played as a #1 and done so at a level where he should be considered to be a top 20 D, which is the definition of being a number 1

 

[Crossfire Hurricane]

Believing something != Knowing something

That's great he's ranked high. Like I said I think he's really really good. But legit #1D are the best defenseman on their team. Toews isn't the best defenseman on his pair. Legit #1D have actually played and been deployed and produced at both ends of the ice like a #1D. I don't think you can say he's earned that label when he's never actually done the job other than handfuls of games when Makar is out.

Does this also apply to other positions? Has Malkin never been a #1C? Because if not, your metric sucks.

 

[tucker3434]

Believing something != Knowing something

That's great he's ranked high. Like I said I think he's really really good. But legit #1D are the best defenseman on their team. Toews isn't the best defenseman on his pair. Legit #1D have actually played and been deployed and produced at both ends of the ice like a #1D. I don't think you can say he's earned that label when he's never actually done the job other than handfuls of games when Makar is out.

Man, this is like arguing Malkin and Draisaitl aren't 1C's.

 

[AslanRH]

Does this also apply to other positions? Has Malkin never been a #1C? Because if not, your metric sucks.

Draisaitl, prime Suter-Weber, there are may more times this metric fails.

 

[SI90]

That’s not what I remembered. He was coming off a rough series against Tampa and lots of Isles fans was down on him.

Definitely had a bad playoffs but that doesn’t change his whole body of work and his skill sets.

 

[dirtydanglez]

mack and toews both took discounts. lucky avs fans

i guess that means girard is gone in the summer?