Confirmed with Link: [COL, CAR, CHI] Rantanen-Hall to CAR, Necas-Drury-25 2nd-26 4th to COL, Chi 25 3rd to Chi (Ret 50% on Mikko)

[Grigowski]

Very interesting info from Friedman. If you want my conspiracy theory, I think CMac might've been leaning towards trading Mikko all along. He'd been spitballing a trade with Carolina since the draft, gave the Mikko camp a (first and?) final offer and didn't even use the extra time he had to negotiate. I think they had the analytics to back up their argument that Mikko is more a product of MacKinnon than anything else, saw his effort level continue to fall flat and, most importantly, I think CMac was just sick of having virtually zero breathing room to work with in their cap structure.

Necas was probably a name that was thrown around early and after he exploded this year, CMac decided to peel the bandaid and pull the trigger early. I have little doubt they targeted Drury specifically as well, to add a much-needed defensive boon into the bottom-6 with offensive upside that's young and cost-controlled.

Given Mikko's "surprise" of the trade, the Avs essentially gave their final offer (one you could argue is a bit of a lowball, despite making him the priciest wing in the league), which was the lowest amount they would've been comfortable with while also knowing it was one Mikko's camp would never accept.

Regardless, it definitely took a set of brass ones to go in the direction that they did. Now there's no excuse to not maximize the cap and add the depth needed to give them another legitimate shot.

Maybe you are not that far from what went down....

I dont think CMac was leaning towars trading Mikko from the get go.... But he came to that conclusion as this season went on and he saw first hand what this team lacked: Depth... Depth to overcome the annual injuries.....

And the idea grew more and more to solve the problem.. Even if it means trading away a franchise-Winger. Even more so when he got the demand from Rants and his agent.....

So basically, Rants became the casualty of this season... And the longer the season went, the more CMac was ready to pull the trigger if everything goes south.

And still CMac wanted to make him the best paid winger in the league. If the final offer really was 11.75 for 8 Years, and Rants would come back saying "hey, make it 12 and we have our deal", he would still be on this team. I dont think they let him go over 250.000 Dollar......

The real question is: How much did Rants and his agents really ask for....

Anyway, its done and over.

As i said it before: CMac did in Denver what Dubas was not willing to do in Toronto (and it cost him his job there)..... CMAC didnt want to end up like Toronto and acted.

And under the circumstances and looming UFA for Rants he made out like a "bandit".

Sure, we all gonna miss Rants and we all wish him the best.

But i saw the game yesterday and i saw what Necas and even Drury can bring to this team. And with some cap space and new Ammunition (picks) CMac can go to work in the next few weeks. And i am sure he will.

That man has some balls....

And maybe this team needed this "shocker" and changes.....

I really liked the Toews-interview and his take on this....

imho, this trade was, in the end, maybe inevitable....

 

[Linds]

Maybe you are not that far from what went down....

I dont think CMac was leaning towars trading Mikko from the get go.... But he came to that conclusion as this season went on and he saw first hand what this team lacked: Depth... Depth to overcome the annual injuries.....

And the idea grew more and more to solve the problem.. Even if it means trading away a franchise-Winger. Even more so when he got the demand from Rants and his agent.....

So basically, Rants became the casualty of this season... And the longer the season went, the more CMac was ready to pull the trigger if everything goes south.

And still CMac wanted to make him the best paid winger in the league. If the final offer really was 11.75 for 8 Years, and Rants would come back saying "hey, make it 12 and we have our deal", he would still be on this team. I dont think they let him go over 250.000 Dollar......

The real question is: How much did Rants and his agents really ask for....

Anyway, its done and over.

As i said it before: CMac did in Denver what Dubas was not willing to do in Toronto (and it cost him his job there)..... CMAC didnt want to end up like Toronto and acted.

And under the circumstances and looming UFA for Rants he made out like a "bandit".

Sure, we all gonna miss Rants and we all wish him the best.

But i saw the game yesterday and i saw what Necas and even Drury can bring to this team. And with some cap space and new Ammunition (picks) CMac can go to work in the next few weeks. And i am sure he will.

That man has some balls....

And maybe this team needed this "shocker" and changes.....

I really liked the Toews-interview and his take on this....

imho, this trade was, in the end, maybe inevitable....

Where can I find DTs interview?

 

[Aurinko]

Empty net points this year
——————————————
Rantanen: 13
Necas: 1

Points with a goalie in the net
————————————————
Rantanen: 51
Necas: 56

Ice-Time
—————
Rantanen: 22:26 per game
Necas: 18:13 per game

Most Common Linemates
——————————————
Rantanen: MacKinnon, Lehkonen
Necas: Kotkaniemi, Robinson

Rantanen has been fed with points.

Everyone knows playoffs where it's at for the Canes, but even there it's unlikely Rantanen will score similar pace to what he did in Colorado. I think it's a simple rental and after that he tests the open markets, which should be pretty entertaining on its own!

 

[MacKaRant]

Necas will be a product of Mack and Makar (as much as Macks points will be helped by Necas). The contract stuff just went ahead one year.

Only way out of that is to extend Necas right now to a lenghty deal like Blackwood. Watch it happen.

I have bad news for you. As with all NHL players on multi-year contracts, Necas is ineligible to sign an extension until July 1 of the final year of the current contract (i.e. July 1, 2025).

 

[Raucherhusten]

I have bad news for you. As with all NHL players on multi-year contracts, Necas is ineligible to sign an extension until July 1 of the final year of the current contract (i.e. July 1, 2025).

And that's the bottom line cause the NHL Rule Book said so!

 

[Gumballhead]

I’m not going to shit on Moose at all because I love him and he’s been so integral to the Avs and was such a huge part of their identity for so long, but this current team evidently was viewed by the front office as needing huge shocks to the system (the goalies and now this) to have a chance to get great. There’s no telling if we have a better chance to go far in the playoffs now, but going forward this emotionally painful trade might be exactly what the franchise needed.

Necas has all world talent in a sturdy package and his point production could be similar to Mikko’s. It won’t take a lot for him to be more responsible defensively and I feel like Mikko’s occasional floating was tolerated by Bednar because of the other things he does very well. Necas won’t get that benefit of the doubt and he already had a hardass coach in Carolina so his hustle and tenacity should be better than Mikko’s. The big unknown is if Necas will be consistent, always a question with high talent offense players. I see a lot of posters worried that we need shooters, but it doesn’t appear Necas is shy to shoot at all and he can rip it. We did incredibly well to get a player like that who is a few years younger than Mikko and one who we know will be here next season. This swap alone could make the trade a home run for the Avs in the long run.

Drury is the kind of guy they would have targeted in a smaller deal by the deadline, so him being included is a huge bonus. He’s already getting immediately kicked out of faceoffs, so he seems like an Av already. Also signed for next year so that’s one less bottom six guy to worry about.

The draft picks are extra ammo, and we’ve drafted better lately so they probably aren’t completely useless even if we keep one or both.

To me, even before I saw the 2 new guys play for us I thought this trade was extreme value under the circumstances and now that cloud of uncertainty isn’t over the team. I don’t think it was necessarily affecting the team but things sure felt stagnant.

It’s illegal for this team to be fully healthy but now you start to wonder when Nuke gets back how things look and then maybe Landy for the playoffs, and the depth is pretty great. And I doubt we’re done trading. I’d be pretty surprised if we move Mitts but a defensive D guy with experience and a little size and/or snarl would be great.

Most of all, we finally got Carolina back for the Bates Battaglia deal.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

I think Necas will score 40+ if he plays next to MacKinnon all season next year and is the PP triggerman

 

[CaleMakaw]

I think Necas will score 40+ if he plays next to MacKinnon all season next year and is the PP triggerman

Sign him in July before that happens please.

 

[BobRossColton]

Get him on a Timo Meier deal.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Sign him in July before that happens please.

Yeah we need to be plying him with contract offers starting literally today (obviously he can't sign yet, but get that verbal!)

 

[The Moops]

Necas will be a product of Mack and Makar (as much as Macks points will be helped by Necas). The contract stuff just went ahead one year.

Only way out of that is to extend Necas right now to a lenghty deal like Blackwood. Watch it happen.

Can't until the summer

 

[AvsCOL]

Drouin - MacKinnon - Necas
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Nichushkin
Landeskog - Drury - LOC
Wood - Kelly - Kivi/Parssinen

Kind of leaves Colton out, I think? Going to be interesting to see what happens there if Landeskog ever comes back (big if)

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Drouin - MacKinnon - Necas
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Nichushkin
Landeskog - Drury - LOC
Wood - Kelly - Kivi/Parssinen

Kind of leaves Colton out, I think? Going to be interesting to see what happens there if Landeskog ever comes back (big if)

Wood and Colton are going to be cap casualties. I say this as someone who adores Ross Colton.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I saw a comment (don't remember where) that a Canes fan made saying that Necas is the guy that will break into the zone and go through the whole other team by himself only to give it away. I wanted to reply that at least he made it into the other zone, Rants gives that puck away standing completely still at his own blue line.

Don't get me wrong, Rants is awesome, angry Rantanen cross checking everyone is hilarious. However, he clearly stopped carrying play and became basically a shot only player; if he were still the player he was earlier in his career where he was a dominating force upon himself I'd be pissed the Avs moved him. At this point, there's a chance he finds that form again. There's also a chance he continues the way he has been playing.

I do think Mikko can get back to it. I hope he stays in Carolina and has a come to Jesus level off season. I don't want him in the West lol.

I think Mitts slump may trigger this for him as well. He's grinding his way out of it too, hopefully his 2025 stats hold indicative of that.

I maintain I'm not really sure I've seen Mikko that gassed after a game in years, and he got nothing on the score sheet. Carolina is must see TV now for me.

This is coming from someone who knows the impact of losing even 10% of your stamina, and it directly impacting your career daily. We didn't have top tier trainers and dietitians to work with while injured in the Army though.

 

[Frenchy]

Empty net points this year
——————————————
Rantanen: 13
Necas: 1

Points with a goalie in the net
————————————————
Rantanen: 51
Necas: 56

Ice-Time
—————
Rantanen: 22:26 per game
Necas: 18:13 per game

Most Common Linemates
——————————————
Rantanen: MacKinnon, Lehkonen
Necas: Kotkaniemi, Robinson

WOW , we were all joking about it , but i wasnt expecting this

 

[EdAVSfan]

I truly believe that Drury is a very overlooked part of this deal. It’s almost only a Necas-Rantanen comparison.

Drury is literally the prototypical 3C that most teams want. All hustle, good faceoffs, responsible 2-way play. If he can round out the offense to a 30-40 point consistency, that’s a difference maker in the playoffs.

He’s still only 24, low cap hit, and still an RFA at the end of his contract.
Some stability at 3C after Compher would be a welcome addition.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

I truly believe that Drury is a very overlooked part of this deal. It’s almost only a Necas-Rantanen comparison.

Drury is literally the prototypical 3C that most teams want. All hustle, good faceoffs, responsible 2-way play. If he can round out the offense to a 30-40 point consistency, that’s a difference maker in the playoffs.

He’s still only 24, low cap hit, and still an RFA at the end of his contract.
Some stability at 3C after Compher would be a welcome addition.

If you’re expecting Drury to be near .5 PPG, you will be disappointed. Just a heads up.

 

[EdAVSfan]

If you’re expecting Drury to be near .5 PPG, you will be disappointed. Just a heads up.

I’m definitely not expecting it. But I think it’s a possibility for him to be in the mid 30s. He put up 27 in 74 just one season ago in his first NHL season. His linemates will be a big factor in his offensive projection. He also put up 52 in 68 in the AHL.

Do I expect it? No. But I think the possibility of it is there, even if not high.

 

[Avs9296]

Seeing the back of his jersey with the writing Drury and the #18 makes my balls tingle a little bit. Not gonna lie.

 

[dahrougem2]

I saw all I needed to see with Drury when one of his linemates against NYR turned it over, he was lowest in the zone and was first guy back. Just head down and fly back. Love it

 

[Avs_19]

For anyone who listened, did Elliotte add anything new in the pod today? Looks like they spent a large chunk of the pod on the trade but I can't listen until later today.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Teemu Selänteeltä jämäkkä kannanotto Mikko Rantasen yllätyssiirtoon – "En olisi lähtenyt mistään hinnasta"

Suomen NHL-legenda Teemu Selänne on ottanut kantaa Mikko Rantasen yllättävään seurasiirtoon.

www.mtvuutiset.fi

Selanne comments on the Rantanen trade.

He said it's not just a loss for Colorado but for Mikko. He says everything is well in Colorado and it's a good place. He says he would have never left in his place especially knowing Rantanens connection with MacK and Makar. In his opinion it's better to play underpaid than go to a new place and not know how it's going to go.



I am actually surprised he said this, because he struggled a lot with Colorado while he was here, at least playing wise.

 

[BobRossColton]

So Jack Drury or Jake Evans?

 

[avalanche_country]

I wonder if Chris Drury had an out of body experience watching #18 for the Avs with a Drury nameplate on the back of the jersey yesterday.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

So Jack Drury or Jake Evans?

Evans, but he's a UFA in 5 months and due for a big payday. We wouldn't be able to keep him.

Drury is signed through next year and an RFA at that point. Simply makes much more sense for the Avs moving forward.

For anyone who listened, did Elliotte add anything new in the pod today? Looks like they spent a large chunk of the pod on the trade but I can't listen until later today.

Link?