Management Claude Julien III - the final countdown?(ALL talk here)

[GordonHowe]

One of the best posts on this board in months. Thank You.

Agree. Good stuff.

 

[GordonHowe]

All he'll need to do is have his phone charged.

Nano second.

 

[Dr Hook]

What is that obsession with having a president who's involved in hockey decisions ?

The GM should always have the last word on personnel (with feedback from his coach) and coaches.

Otherwise, there's too many cooks in the kitchen.

So, to answer your question, replace him with anyone as long as there is no meddling in hockey decisions.

Or if you have to have the President making hockey decisions, why pay two? Fire one and combine the job- President and General Manager and stop the stupidity.

 

[Hamilton Brian]

Responding to this Sunday evening, 22 January, so I'm late to your post.

I'm no insider but quite agree. I hope matters unfold precisely as you wish. I feel bad, because I have always respected & admired Cam. But he is not suited for the position he presently holds.

Firing Chiarelli was a bad move, and classless besides. Firing Julien amounts to the same thing. It's effed up.

I can't believe I missed Dom's post that you're quoting. I got fired up just reading it.

 

[Blowfish]

Yikes how does this guy keep his job? 4years of poop.

 

[TheBigBadB]

I think Sweeney is handcuffed by Neely. Would like to see him do his job without Cam hanging over his shoulder telling him to trade for Rinaldo and Hayes.

There is absolutely no evidence of this... it's just pure speculation from the hang Cam crowd

 

[Gordoff]

There is absolutely no evidence of this... it's just pure speculation from the hang Cam crowd

The proof is in the pudding...

 

[GordonHowe]

There is absolutely no evidence of this... it's just pure speculation from the hang Cam crowd

Where is Rinaldo, anyway?

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

My honest opinion is that the team's executive office/FO is clearly made up of a bunch of old, whiny, emotional, egotistical old men (see: Behind the B) that honestly don't have a ****ing clue what they're doing. The moves they make are based on visceral, uneducated reactions heavily weighed on the "attitude" and "style" of player, and their loyalties in players are unbreakable even if "their guys" are clearly an issue.

Just once, I'd like to see something logical happen. I've been a Krejci guy his entire career, but I was calling to explore a trade for him last season given the logic of it (injuries, past peak, easily hurt, had a high value given his early season point totals) but I'm 100% sure that option was never explored, because he is a player they are endlessly loyal to. It's the exact same concept with Chara. And a guy like McQuaid. It's not based on logic. It's based on some general concept created by the FO that completely discounts strategy and actually winning over players playing the game in a way that "satisfies" them.

I also think Claude has gotten his players to rely almost completely on a system and not on their hockey instincts.

Overall, I think a ton of people that are not players need to be shown the door. God knows if and when that will ever happen.

 

[TheBigBadB]

The proof is in the pudding...

About as clear as pudding too. Unless your Cam, Don, Julien or the Jacobs it's all speculation

 

[TheBigBadB]

Where is Rinaldo, anyway?

Providence last I heard and actually scoring goals. Still a useless meathead though

 

[bp13]

There is absolutely no evidence of this... it's just pure speculation from the hang Cam crowd

I am the leader of the hang Cam crowd and even I am with you. There are countless reasons to want Cam gone...you don't even need to pin personnel decisions on him.

Since day 1 Sweeneys work with the NHL team from signings to trades have been terrible. But his player development work has been quite good. He probably grades out as bad, but maybe deserving of more time. Neely grades out as terrible no matter what the criteria.

 

[TheBigBadB]

I am the leader of the hang Cam crowd and even I am with you. There are countless reasons to want Cam gone...you don't even need to pin personnel decisions on him.

Since day 1 Sweeneys work with the NHL team from signings to trades have been terrible. But his player development work has been quite good. He probably grades out as bad, but maybe deserving of more time. Neely grades out as terrible no matter what the criteria.

Live as a team, die as a team. I blame them all. Top to bottom have blame in this.

 

[Gordoff]

About as clear as pudding too. Unless your Cam, Don, Julien or the Jacobs it's all speculation

If you can't see it, I don't know what will make you see it.

 

[Alan Ryan]

Where is Rinaldo, anyway?

Playing pretty well in Providence.

 

[EverettMike]

Playing pretty well in Providence.

Well then the 3rd was worth it.

 

[TheBigBadB]

If you can't see it, I don't know what will make you see it.

When it comes from the management team then I will see it. Surely not going to agree with speculation as fact from a hockey board. 98% is pure speculation here and I am fine with that. Claiming it as fact is something I won't do.

 

[northeastern]

...AND
Sad (Sack) Sacco will be CJ's successor.....

That's the most horrifying thing I've ever watched.

I'd continue to go to games stinky to protest sacco.

It wouldn't shock me if he's fired in the next few hours.

 

[TheBigBadB]

Got the best idea. Fire all the assistant coaches and have Don and Neely be the assistants. The pure clown show on the bench would be better than the play on ice!

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

At least we helped get the Islanders going. Coaching changed looks to have helped as well. Time to put the hammer down.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

 

[BruinDust]

They are actually practicing tomorrow.

I'd figure Claude was going to give them another paid day off citing fatigue as a major factor/excuse.

 

[GordonHowe]

Playing pretty well in Providence.

Hmm. Definition of meathead, certainly.

That was one of the worst deals, from several angles, the Bruins have ever made. Even OC wouldn't touch that -- and for a third round pick!

 

[Gordoff]

Parcells negotiating with the Jets during Superbowl week is unforgivable.

That had me FUMING!!

My honest opinion is that the team's executive office/FO is clearly made up of a bunch of old, whiny, emotional, egotistical old men (see: Behind the B) that honestly don't have a ****ing clue what they're doing. The moves they make are based on visceral, uneducated reactions heavily weighed on the "attitude" and "style" of player, and their loyalties in players are unbreakable even if "their guys" are clearly an issue.

Just once, I'd like to see something logical happen. I've been a Krejci guy his entire career, but I was calling to explore a trade for him last season given the logic of it (injuries, past peak, easily hurt, had a high value given his early season point totals) but I'm 100% sure that option was never explored, because he is a player they are endlessly loyal to. It's the exact same concept with Chara. And a guy like McQuaid. It's not based on logic. It's based on some general concept created by the FO that completely discounts strategy and actually winning over players playing the game in a way that "satisfies" them.

I also think Claude has gotten his players to rely almost completely on a system and not on their hockey instincts.

Overall, I think a ton of people that are not players need to be shown the door. God knows if and when that will ever happen.

This, and that!

 

[Fenway]

Here on BruinsHF we have three distinct fanbases

1. We have many fans who live thousands of miles away but for whatever reason the Bruins became their team.

2. Fans who live closer to Boston or a NHL city and see the team play in person occasionally.

3. The hardcores that go to TD Garden either as STH or work at the games in some capacity.

Julian has signaled that he is willing to work through a rebuild unlike Doc Rivers who bailed on the Celtics. Claude knows that if the Bruins fire him he will have a new job in short order but he really likes his family situation in Lexington.

I say stick with Claude and rebuild.