VanIsle
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2.5+ years of the same old stuff, I agree 100% with you.
Lets keep Claude for 20 years because things will work themselves out hahahahahaha.
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2.5+ years of the same old stuff, I agree 100% with you.
Lets keep Claude for 20 years because things will work themselves out hahahahahaha.
Ice Nine
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I'm going to be livid if Neely throws Julian under the bus to save his own skin.
IMHO, the only reason why this team has even been anywhere near playoff contention the last two season is because Julian is a top coach in the league.
If they fire Claude, I think this team tanks. Forget playoffs, we're talking lottery pics.
Neely should be fired immediately. Let Sweeney patiently implement his vision, and keep Julian on.
IMHO, the only reason why this team has even been anywhere near playoff contention the last two season is because Julian is a top coach in the league.
If they fire Claude, I think this team tanks. Forget playoffs, we're talking lottery pics.
Neely should be fired immediately. Let Sweeney patiently implement his vision, and keep Julian on.
It would be a mercy firing. He is not effective right now, the players aren't responding whatever you want to call it.
The team needs a shakeup. I will always remember him for what he did, at this point it is just sad......this applies to Chara as well...
The team needs a shakeup. I will always remember him for what he did, at this point it is just sad......this applies to Chara as well...
Hali33
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There is no reason to fire Claude at this point. Make your coaching change in the off season if thats where you want to go. But this ****ing team Sweeney put together is GARBAGE.
Ten Thousand Hours
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Tanking is a risk we should be willing to take. We're definitely not going to play well under Julien. We might under a different coach. A maybe is better than a no even if there's more downside.
And firing Claude isn't throwing him under the bus. It's inevitable. If anything, keeping him around saves that move for the offseason.
EverettMike
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Not that it matters, but I thought that suit and tie combo tonight was the sharpest Claude has ever looked.
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So, its obvious claude wont fire himslef cause he sure has a **** load of money to receive. Does Jacobs gives neely the money without consequences or fires him aswell?
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GloryDaze4877
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If you say so.
There is plenty of blame to go around, but I wouldn't put the majority of it on Sweeney. I have the players and coach ahead of him.
EverettMike
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If Clode does get the gate, does he take a job with a team currently looking or might Vegas have interest?
Hmmm
Hmmm
EverettMike
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Hali33
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If you say so.
Regardless of whether I like Claude's decisions, I don't see a combination of what's ready in Providence and available to this roster that is turning this team into a winner.
I think this team went into the season with shaky depth and flaws and this is what you get.
Claude is on the bottom of my list.
TheBigBadB
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Keeping Claude puts Sweeney in a bad spot. If he fires him he can say that he (Sweeney) built a team that should be better than this. If he keeps him it says that Claude is doing everything he can with a bad team that he has assembled. I think Claude is a good coach, but I do think that is time for a change. They fired the assistant coaches in the offseason and I think that was the last life for Claude.
Sweeney (and Neely if he really has the final say on the roster) have done a horrific job putting a team on the ice that can compete. This is year when a lot of teams in the Atlantic are struggling and the Bruins are right there too.
Sweeney (and Neely if he really has the final say on the roster) have done a horrific job putting a team on the ice that can compete. This is year when a lot of teams in the Atlantic are struggling and the Bruins are right there too.
EverettMike
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There are major holes all over the roster.
Top 6 is a winger short.
Third line is a total mess.
The D isn't close to being good enough.
And they have to overplay their starting goalie because the back up has been so bad.
I mean, the roster is what it is.
Hali33
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Yes. It's brutal watching it unfold when things are really getting ugly but with the exception of the back up goaltending issues, these potential major problems were pretty clearly identified prior to the season. And sure enough, they are issues. Fire Claude though?
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The maddening thing is that these holes have been accumulating over several seasons. It's not like they all just appeared this past offseason. You cannot sit by and watch hole after hole open up without addressing them and then assume everything will be ok.
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EverettMike
FIRE DON SWEENEY INTO THE SUN
Chiarelli traded a top 4 d-man three seasons ago.
Then Sweeney traded a top 6 winger and a top 4 d-man before last season.
All of those spots are still problems now.
But Bergeron has the Benjamin Button disease so it's cool.
Cam, Do the Right Thing
As Mike Dukakis is fond of pointing out, correctly, "A fish rots from the head."
The mess we see before us is the result of an unwieldy, apparently unworkable hydra headed front office.
The individual to go is Cam. Charlie obviously isn't going anywhere (although FWIW I heard from a customer who worked for Delaware North 20+ years that another Jacobs son may take the reigns at some point).
With the mistakes he's made, I think Don has done a fine job retooling Bear Force One at 30,000 feat. No easy task, and one that brings with it inevitable growing pains & bone headed mistakes.
But Sweeney is a very bright fellow, he obviously knows the game & where it's trending, and it's fair to say he's recovered nicely from initial stumbling.
He deserves to stay, for now.
For the thousandth time, Claude is not the problem. It's true that a fresh face & different style might be salutory, just as it's true the message, and the messenger, may be stale.
The losing streak could not have worked out better (whilst many eyes are diverted toward Foxboro this week) should "management" seek the easy way out. I hope that doesn't happen, because I admire Claude immensely as a coach, and a person.
So many here forget what it was like before he & Peter Chiarelli came here. Kicking him to the curb now -- especially now -- would be kicking a man when he's down. Yet that is a highly probable scenario.
The real problem, again, is a muddled mess of management and a jerk owner who would step over his supine grandmother to retrieve fifty cents.
I guess we'll see.
I still feel very good about the youth, depth, speed & skill of the organization as a whole, and the big club in particular. I like our character guys. I like our skill players. I like our veteran leadership. I respect our goaltender's ability, even if his attitude is at times questionable.
I personally wish my all time favorite NHLer would do the graceful thing and remove himself from the equation.
No one has been able to convincingly argue that Cam Neely has brought any expertise at all to the club. Enthusiasm & passion for Bruins Hockey is great -- and I loved it when Cam came on board.
But enthusiasm and passion are not enough when you have little else to offer. The fact that no one -- not media types, certainly not fans -- appears to know who the hell is in charge on Causeway Street should tell you all you need to know.
It's a murky mess. And it has to end.
As Mike Dukakis is fond of pointing out, correctly, "A fish rots from the head."
The mess we see before us is the result of an unwieldy, apparently unworkable hydra headed front office.
The individual to go is Cam. Charlie obviously isn't going anywhere (although FWIW I heard from a customer who worked for Delaware North 20+ years that another Jacobs son may take the reigns at some point).
With the mistakes he's made, I think Don has done a fine job retooling Bear Force One at 30,000 feat. No easy task, and one that brings with it inevitable growing pains & bone headed mistakes.
But Sweeney is a very bright fellow, he obviously knows the game & where it's trending, and it's fair to say he's recovered nicely from initial stumbling.
He deserves to stay, for now.
For the thousandth time, Claude is not the problem. It's true that a fresh face & different style might be salutory, just as it's true the message, and the messenger, may be stale.
The losing streak could not have worked out better (whilst many eyes are diverted toward Foxboro this week) should "management" seek the easy way out. I hope that doesn't happen, because I admire Claude immensely as a coach, and a person.
So many here forget what it was like before he & Peter Chiarelli came here. Kicking him to the curb now -- especially now -- would be kicking a man when he's down. Yet that is a highly probable scenario.
The real problem, again, is a muddled mess of management and a jerk owner who would step over his supine grandmother to retrieve fifty cents.
I guess we'll see.
I still feel very good about the youth, depth, speed & skill of the organization as a whole, and the big club in particular. I like our character guys. I like our skill players. I like our veteran leadership. I respect our goaltender's ability, even if his attitude is at times questionable.
I personally wish my all time favorite NHLer would do the graceful thing and remove himself from the equation.
No one has been able to convincingly argue that Cam Neely has brought any expertise at all to the club. Enthusiasm & passion for Bruins Hockey is great -- and I loved it when Cam came on board.
But enthusiasm and passion are not enough when you have little else to offer. The fact that no one -- not media types, certainly not fans -- appears to know who the hell is in charge on Causeway Street should tell you all you need to know.
It's a murky mess. And it has to end.
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