Rumor: Chychrun has Soured on Ottawa, Unlikely to Extend

I mean, i'd guess Ottawa has probably soured a bit on him too. Not really that useful to them if he can't play his off side well. Between Sanderson and Chabot, it seems like they've probably got those Top-4 LHD minutes locked down pretty well. At some point, just have to eat the mistake, accept that it didn't work out as hoped, and move on to try to find another competent RHD somewhere with that money instead.

Curious to see if they do move him, how much of the initial acquisition price they can actually recoup. Or if it's like the DeBrincat situation where they just have to eat the depreciation and live with what they can get.
 
70.3% of voters voted him a top-pairing (or better) Dman literally ~10 months ago, and almost 500 poeple voted. If your thoughts have changed, it's probably not because of his play. Unfortunately for Ottawa, he's not what they needed, but it doesn't make him any worse of a player.

Names that I'd reasonably target are M.Weegar, C.Parayko, B.Carlo, R.Andersson, and R.Poluck. I understand hey have varying degrees of value and availability, but that's the short list of who I'd call on regarding a Chuchrun swap. I'd also be in on B.Pesce and M.Roy if they are willing to do a sign-and-trade, but that seems less likely.
 
70.3% of voters voted him a top-pairing (or better) Dman literally ~10 months ago, and almost 500 poeple voted. If your thoughts have changed, it's probably not because of his play. Unfortunately for Ottawa, he's not what they needed, but it doesn't make him any worse of a player.

Names that I'd reasonably target are M.Weegar, C.Parayko, B.Carlo, R.Andersson, and R.Poluck. I understand hey have varying degrees of value and availability, but that's the short list of who I'd call on regarding a Chuchrun swap. I'd also be in on B.Pesce and M.Roy if they are willing to do a sign-and-trade, but that seems less likely.
Why has he not been what you've needed do you think?

I looked down that Ottawa lineup and thought you'd be really good this yr. Individually most players are producing no? Has the goaltending been bad? That can often explain a lot.
 
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Why has he not been what you've needed do you think?

I looked down that Ottawa lineup and thought you'd be really good this yr. Individually most players are producing no? Has the goaltending been bad? That can often explain a lot.

Per game, Ottawa is 9th in the entire leaue in goals for.
They are 31st goals against.
Goaltending and team defense has been very bad, but goaltending always looks bad in these cases. Talbot sucked last year and now in LA he looks great for example.

I always had concerns about Chychrun being brought in as he is a LD. He's also more of a physical offensive defenceman, and not a defensive specialist which Ottawa would benefit more from. Having Sanderson makes one of Chychrun or Chabot redundant, and while I would prefer to move Chabot - I believe the team would prefer to move Chychrun.
 
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I have no idea what is happening in the Sens locker room but...veteran leadership vs young guy leadership can be an issue.

Chy may think he is should be treated and seen as a key guy. Maybe he thinks that he's better then Tkachuk.

We don't know and unlikely we will ever know.
 
Per game, Ottawa is 9th in the entire leaue in goals for.
They are 31st goals against.
Goaltending and team defense has been very bad, but goaltending always looks bad in these cases. Talbot sucked last year and now in LA he looks great for example.

I always had concerns about Chychrun being brought in as he is a LD. He's also more of a physical offensive defenceman, and not a defensive specialist which Ottawa would benefit more from. Having Sanderson makes one of Chychrun or Chabot redundant, and while I would prefer to move Chabot - I believe the team would prefer to move Chychrun.
Chychrun has had above average to very good defensive numbers for a few yrs though so he can't be the problem is he? It's gotta be a systems thing. Chabot on the other hand has always had shockingling bad defensive metrics, which surprised me as I thought he was more of an all arounder when he came into the league.
 
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The Streets called the Dorion firing and the Dadanov fiasco so he is credible.


It would be a shame to let chychruns talent go to waste!

Every playoff contender right now:

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The usual HF posters jumping all over a team when they appear to be down.
Ahhhh the humanity of it all!
I for one wish for success in Ottawa and they're not that far off from it really.
Just think .. a top 5 pick this year for sure I would think ... maybe a stud RD coming Ottawa's way ... just what they need.

I hope they turn it around too. I got no issues with the Sens or their fanbase. They deserve a good team unlike some other Ontario based team.
 
Is this question in a non hockey context?
Actually just look at rich plsyer has contributed to winning clubs and which is never on a winner. Zadorov seems to be the player who is always helping his club win. Not too sure what Chychrun does?
 
Chychrun has had above average to very good defensive numbers for a few yrs though so he can't be the problem is he? It's gotta be a systems thing. Chabot on the other hand has always had shockingling bad defensive metrics, which surprised me as I thought he was more of an all arounder when he came into the league.
Chabot is who I believe most sens fans would rather trade if they could,
 
Sens gave up a 'condition' first rounder in 2023 and 'conditional' second round picks in 2024 and 2026 to acquire Chychrun. Not sure what the 'conditions' were. But first and second picks are still first and second round picks at the end of the day.

And I know one thing......if they decide to deal him, they won't get a fraction of that haul back.
 
Sens gave up a 'condition' first rounder in 2023 and 'conditional' second round picks in 2024 and 2026 to acquire Chychrun. Not sure what the 'conditions' were. But first and second picks are still first and second round picks at the end of the day.

And I know one thing......if they decide to deal him, they won't get a fraction of that haul back.

So they'll actually get more than they gave up?
 

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