Proposal: Chychrun & Habs

[Legend123]

With what?

young players + a bunch of top 5 picks...

 

[Habs Halifax]

Caufield is a pretty good player.

I don't watch Arizona much and don't really have much of a handle on who Chychrun really is, but it's not immediately apparent to me who would eventually be the best player in that deal.

I would say Chychrun is the best player in that deal but I see where you are coming from. Caufield has game but is yet another player drowning on the Habs this year. Hard to say where he tops out at. I would agree the gap is not as big as what some think it is.

Regardless, Habs are not making this trade. Not because we don't value Chychrun. It's just not the right time to make a trade like this.

 

[ole ole]

What an atrocious offer. Montreal fans not helping the case that they have the worst proposals on this board.

You mean Montreal FAN.

Also wanting

2022 1st rounder
2023 2nd rounder
Caufield
Guhle
Tuch
for
Chychrun is actually worst then the OP's.

 

[Djp]

My thinking was that you always start the re-tooling from the back, Chychrun is only 23yrs old. I don't see Mtl for a total rebuild, if Mtl needs to add RHD etc. Mtl can than start the process of finding some better young and tougher power fwds by dangling players like Taffoli, Hoffman, Dvorak in other trades.

none of those players have value to add some high end RD U24 player.

 

[Djp]

He won't get much more than this

That's one top tier prospect, two 1sts and a 2nd.

He's not worth more than Eichel that's for sure

A healthy Eichel no. What Buffalo got is around what AZ would get for him.

 

[Djp]

I would say Chychrun is the best player in that deal but I see where you are coming from. Caufield has game but is yet another player drowning on the Habs this year. Hard to say where he tops out at. I would agree the gap is not as big as what some think it is.

Regardless, Habs are not making this trade. Not because we don't value Chychrun. It's just not the right time to make a trade like this.

I agree Montreal should not try to make this type of trade now.

montreal doesn’t have much to trade. Teams aren’t going to give up 1st for nothing super special players like Toffoli or Hoffman. Chiarot isn’t getting a 1st other than a final 4 pick that a 2nd coukd turn into.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I agree Montreal should not try to make this type of trade now.

montreal doesn’t have much to trade. Teams aren’t going to give up 1st for nothing super special players like Toffoli or Hoffman. Chiarot isn’t getting a 1st other than a final 4 pick that a 2nd coukd turn into.

If the Habs want to get in the bidding war they can but it would be a horrible move cause they should rebuild. Habs prospect pool is not as horrible as it's made out to be on HF boards. The amount of WJC talent we have had since 2017+ draft years is well above average

Toffoli and Hoffman's value are not horrible and who knows what they return.

My price with Chiarot was two 2nd's. I think a late 1st is possible but I think sign/trade is how the Habs get their 1st. Habs can retain to make it fit any team's cap and then that team is allowed to talk extension and if they come to a term and AAV they value, that's where I see the 1st as a possible outcome.

 

[Funk21]

30 other teams in the league, Easily blow away that offer. Not even close.

Agreed, I could imagine that Yzerman would love to add a veteran D man who is still young and under control to his back end. Chychrun and Seider would be crazy good together and could change the east and make the Wings a player again.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Agreed, I could imagine that Yzerman would love to add a veteran D man who is still young and under control to his back end. Chychrun and Seider would be crazy good together and could change the east and make the Wings a player again.

Yzerman has his eyes on draft picks and futures still. Not the right time for him to make a move and use youth to get that piece.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Habs need to stay as far away from this as possible they aren't ready to add this piece

 

[drktmplr12]

better throw in that 3rd rounder to even it out

 

[HuGo Sham]

Montreal is barren of young talent. No way they can even sniff Chychrun without their first this year..unprotected

they're not giving up their first in any trade this year..
and suzuki, caufield, guhle, romanov, etc...
says otherwise about your hot take

 

[Cenzo_]

Chychrun is overated a bit it seems. Fantastic season last year, but the fact that he has not been able to continue the trend this year is a bit of a concern and lowers his value.

But HF dumping on Habs players while pumping low market ones is pretty much a classic

 

[Cenzo_]

That’s brutal. So the fans convinced their getting a 1st rounder for Chariot (they may) think they’re getting Chychrun without giving up a 1st.

No they are just giving up their best forward prospect and second best D prospect.

 

[Cenzo_]

I agree Montreal should not try to make this type of trade now.

montreal doesn’t have much to trade. Teams aren’t going to give up 1st for nothing super special players like Toffoli or Hoffman. Chiarot isn’t getting a 1st other than a final 4 pick that a 2nd coukd turn into.

Have you been watching hockey in the last few year during trade deadline? Exemple of 1st given for nothing special players:

• Foligno for Leafs 1st round pick
• Savard for Tampa's 1st
• Goodrow for Tampa's 1st
• Coleman for Tampa's (was Vancouver's ) 1st
• Hartman for Nashville's 1st
• Stastny for Winnipeg's 1st

And the list goes on and on and on

 

[HSF]

is this deal that bad ?

maybe the value of Caufield has fallen? I thought he was considered a high end blue chip prospect

 

[Habs Halifax]

Chychrun is overated a bit it seems. Fantastic season last year, but the fact that he has not been able to continue the trend this year is a bit of a concern and lowers his value.

But HF dumping on Habs players while pumping low market ones is pretty much a classic

He's got solid trade value with his AAV and term left but the truth is in the middle on his value in terms of what you see on HF boards.

 

[Habs Halifax]

is this deal that bad ?

maybe the value of Caufield has fallen? I thought he was considered a high end blue chip prospect

It's hard to say what Caufield's value is. He's yet another one who is drowning on our tank year. Even Suzuki is having a hard time increasing his stats from previous years. Regardless, Habs are not in the right position to make a trade for Chychrun at this point in time.

 

[HabsCode]

30 other teams in the league, Easily blow away that offer. Not even close.

Doubt Detroit could easily blow that offer, unless you have something better to offer? Your first, Edvinsson +++?

 

[Baksfamous112]

So I see Caufield and nothing else for Chychrun, not really enticing IMO, make it HURT if you want Chychrun

That’s because you have no idea who Harris is

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

is this deal that bad ?

maybe the value of Caufield has fallen? I thought he was considered a high end blue chip prospect

This is HFBOARDS man. IT doesn't matter that he was considered a high end blue chip prospect. His 23 games this season have been enough for many to now consider him a bust

 

[HSF]

This is HFBOARDS man. IT doesn't matter that he was considered a high end blue chip prospect. His 23 games this season have been enough for many to now consider him a bust

I guess it really depends though some teams might think that Caufield is too small to make a star impact while others might think could still be a star

 

[Barnaby]

No they are just giving up their best forward prospect and second best D prospect.

That’s all relative. For example, the TML best prospects aren’t near the equivalent of the LA Kings best prospects. That’s great that they’re your best prospects but if AZ can find higher value elsewhere then they will. MTL really has no business making this trade anyway. They need to add young core pieces and picks, not try to make a contender like deal.

 

[Dominance]

This is HFBOARDS man. IT doesn't matter that he was considered a high end blue chip prospect. His 23 games this season have been enough for many to now consider him a bust

On the contrary, the major questions about how Caufield’s game would translate have transformed into outright concerns he will have to overcome to be even an average top-6 forward.

 

[Cenzo_]

That’s all relative. For example, the TML best prospects aren’t near the equivalent of the LA Kings best prospects. That’s great that they’re your best prospects but if AZ can find higher value elsewhere then they will. MTL really has no business making this trade anyway. They need to add young core pieces and picks, not try to make a contender like deal.

Agreed, but we are talking about a prospect that was ranked #3 top prospect about 3 months ago (https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/)