Proposal: Chychrun & Habs

[jellybeans]

My favorite part is the Arizona 3rd. Like this offer is just too generous and AZ has to add a little something to balance it out. LOL

Especially that the 3rd 2021 is already in the past.

 

[jellybeans]

wow that's pretty bad for Arizona. They will get at least 2 top 7 prospects and a 1st rounder.
Not knowing much about Montreal's system but I would say something like

2022 1st rounder
2023 2nd rounder
Caufield
Guhle
Tuch

And again, not sure of the valve for Guhle and Tuch. But I know Arizona is going to want a HUGE haul for him especially that he's locked up at a great number.

LMFAO easy on the juice dude you want suzuki also.

 

[Guitpik]

Especially that the 3rd 2021 is already in the past.

For what it's worth, the Yotes are getting a historical 2nd in return.

 

[Barnaby]

That’s brutal. So the fans convinced their getting a 1st rounder for Chariot (they may) think they’re getting Chychrun without giving up a 1st.

 

[jellybeans]

That’s brutal. So the fans convinced their getting a 1st rounder for Chariot (they may) think they’re getting Chychrun without giving up a 1st.

Possible first overall and late first is a huge difference i actually wouldn't do 2022 first overall alone for him

 

[ottawa]

Yikes, this is bad as a habs fan lol.

My more balanced offer that I would NOT do is
Caufield
Harris (supposedly doesn't want to play for us, UFA soon due to college loophole) otherwise Norlinder
1st 2022 (from Chiarot trade)
2nd 2023

 

[Legend123]

dream on.

wdym??

Thats usually how long it takes a rebuild to get back up on running. Im going by a rough approx.
And if takes longer, then the more reason not to trade for someone who will walk before we even can compete

 

[ole ole]

Lets say the Habs gets the 2OV or 3OV (we keep the 1OV if we have it)

Would 2OV or 3OV for Chychrun make sense ?

I mean Chychrun is only 23 year of age.

Habs are keeping their pick. Would love to get Chychrun but we are also rebuilding. We have nothing of value that we would be willing to trade.
The OP's offer is just awful. I don't think anyone would do that trade from Arizona 's perspective.

 

[ole ole]

wow that's pretty bad for Arizona. They will get at least 2 top 7 prospects and a 1st rounder.
Not knowing much about Montreal's system but I would say something like

2022 1st rounder
2023 2nd rounder
Caufield
Guhle
Tuch

And again, not sure of the valve for Guhle and Tuch. But I know Arizona is going to want a HUGE haul for him especially that he's locked up at a great number.

Now this is almost as bad as the Op's offer but in favor for Arizona .

 

[ole ole]

That’s brutal. So the fans convinced their getting a 1st rounder for Chariot (they may) think they’re getting Chychrun without giving up a 1st.

Talk about taking everything out of context just to start a troll war.

 

[Barnaby]

Talk about taking everything out of context just to start a troll war.

A troll war? I think it’s a very valid point. If AZ is trading their best player whose 23 years old while in the midst of a rebuild and aren’t bringing back at least one first rounder then the offer is ridiculous. The idea that you’re getting a 1st for Chariot then flipping that pick as the prime asset for Chychrun is also highly unrealistic.

Personally, I don’t think Chychrun to MTL makes much sense at this point in time. MTL should keep their picks to build a foundation then look to add players when their further along.

 

[General Fanager]

So why would The Habs want him? They are rebuilding/retooling and he would be super expensive to trade for....

Keep the assets and keep focused on the retool/build

 

[crowi]

Yikes, this is bad as a habs fan lol.

My more balanced offer that I would NOT do is
Caufield
Harris (supposedly doesn't want to play for us, UFA soon due to college loophole) otherwise Norlinder
1st 2022 (from Chiarot trade)
2nd 2023

Yikes is the only thing I agree here and I'd add that to OP as well.

 

[Mersss]

Your well documented dislike of the Oilers notwithstanding, Broberg would probably be in such a deal. I doubt Holloway would be as well. The Oilers would be giving up their best LHD prospect but get a great player already in the NHL who plays the left D position. That fits more in their time line.

How is Broberg being there, but not Holloway beat this Habs offer? Considering that Harris and Norlinder are better prospects than probably any other Oilers prospect?

 

[ottawa]

Yikes is the only thing I agree here and I'd add that to OP as well.

He won't get much more than this

That's one top tier prospect, two 1sts and a 2nd.

He's not worth more than Eichel that's for sure

 

[ole ole]

A troll war? I think it’s a very valid point. If AZ is trading their best player whose 23 years old while in the midst of a rebuild and aren’t bringing back at least one first rounder then the offer is ridiculous. The idea that you’re getting a 1st for Chariot then flipping that pick as the prime asset for Chychrun is also highly unrealistic.

Personally, I don’t think Chychrun to MTL makes much sense at this point in time. MTL should keep their picks to build a foundation then look to add players when their further along.

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Different thread

 

[Barnaby]

And the OP was saying the 1st OA which isn't happening.

The teams don’t match up well at all. It would cost more in young pieces than MTL should pay. It just reeks of another bandaid to try for another miracle run with Price.

 

[elitepete]

What an atrocious offer. Montreal fans not helping the case that they have the worst proposals on this board.

 

[TFHockey]

How is Broberg being there, but not Holloway beat this Habs offer? Considering that Harris and Norlinder are better prospects than probably any other Oilers prospect?

Sure they are.

Broberg would be there because Arizona would want a top prospect like him to eventually replace Chychrun. Other picks would go as well. Maybe Bourgault? Not sure really how it would go.

Anyway, what does it matter? Habs aren't going for him anyway.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

habs will compete in 3 to 5 years

While this is true the Habs shouldn't pony up the cost based on the dirrection the team is heading, he's still not wrong for calling you on the UFA soon comment

 

[Legend123]

While this is true the Habs shouldn't pony up the cost based on the dirrection the team is heading, he's still not wrong for calling you on the UFA soon comment

if he was locked up for 8 years that would be different - still I wouldn't pay up for him - but he's got just 3 years after this one. Hence, way too soon for us.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Montreal is barren of young talent. No way they can even sniff Chychrun without their first this year..unprotected

 

[KaseMeOutside]

habs will compete in 3 to 5 years

With what?

 

[Ciao]

Caufield is a pretty good player.

I don't watch Arizona much and don't really have much of a handle on who Chychrun really is, but it's not immediately apparent to me who would eventually be the best player in that deal.

 

[Runner77]

My thinking was that you always start the re-tooling from the back, ...

Why? The scarcest position is first line center.