Proposal: Chychrun for Vilardi, Turcotte, and a 1st

[bsu]

than I guess authors like Wheeler of the athletic over rate LA as well. the kings have numerous high potential prospects. I think most agree on that.

The Kings have tremendous depth with prospects... but their top end prospects have left a lot to be desired at the professional level (both AHL and NHL) thus far. They are all still young I am sure some of them will figure it out. They have the luxury that if some of their prospects end up not working out they still have more coming. Thus far production wise almost all their HIGH END prospects have underwhelmed at the pro level though.

 

[Art.Vandelay]

Arizona would do well with this, but I understand their apprehension. I think it’s decent value but I’m not sold on Chchyrun, I see him as more of a Phaneuf type than a true top pairing guy.

Are you calling Chychrun "sloppy seconds"?

 

[kilowatt]

I'm not interested in Chychrun anymore. To be honest, I don't even think LA needs help at LD. With Clarke coming next season, there's not even going to be room. I would shift Durzi over to his off-side and call it a day. As is, LA is going to have to find a spot for Sean Walker (or trade him).

Anderson - Doughty
Durzi - Roy
Bjornfot - Clarke

 

[kings11]

Sick join date bro, shit on fans who have stuck by their team through thick and thicker when you seemingly chose the most convenient time to become a fan

Lmao, just a little kick in the nads…
I feel for you guys, I don’t know wtf your teams direction is.. but each time I’ve see a sell off/rebuild like this it’s been followed by a decade of suffering.

 

[RABBIT]

Lmao, just a little kid in the nads…
I feel for you guys, I don’t know wtf your teams direction is.. but each time I’ve see a sell off/rebuild like this it’s been followed by a decade of suffering.

full transparency - we have no f***ing clue either. We are kind of used to the decades of suffering so it's not all that bad.

 

[YP44]

I'm not interested in Chychrun anymore. To be honest, I don't even think LA needs help at LD. With Clarke coming next season, there's not even going to be room. I would shift Durzi over to his off-side and call it a day. As is, LA is going to have to find a spot for Sean Walker (or trade him).

Anderson - Doughty
Durzi - Roy
Bjornfot - Clarke

I would be ok with this route as well.

 

[kings11]

full transparency - we have no f***ing clue either. We are kind of used to the decades of suffering so it's not all that bad.

I still think Matthews goes back home and maybe even Wright or Bedard… or both

 

[kinghock]

Shitting on the coyotes has always been one of the great American/Canadian pasttimes lol

Chychrun struggled immensely in the first half of the season but has been better of late. I think it's safe to say his play will settle and he'll be a top pair defenseman when these trade rumors are done and he's on a better squad.

I do not believe that it's safe to say his play will settle and he'll be a top pair defenseman.

 

[RABBIT]

I still think Matthews goes back home and maybe even Wright or Bedard… or both

we sure hope so - that said, we can't hold our breath. If any strings are pulled behind the scene, I highly doubt uncle Gary wants Bedard playing at ASU!

 

[kinghock]

100% would reject this trade. We have zero reason to trade him. The only reason we trade him is for a monster package and this is not it.

if Jakob requests a trade than that package would be what we would be lucky to get. That only happens if we lose leverage. Cheers

Please keep him or find another suitor.

 

[kilowatt]

LA certainly won't be keeping all of the prospects they've amassed, but Rob Blake has already alluded to the price being way too high on Chychrun. Turcotte, Vilardi, and a first is too rich for my blood. LA's defense right now is, on average, 24 years old. Next season if we replace Maatta with Clarke, it'll be even younger. This team really just needs some time to learn and grow. If anything, I'd want to trade some of these prospects for an elite goal-scoring winger.

 

[kinghock]

And neither will Chychrun for vilardi, turcotte and a first

It is good news for Kings fans

 

[go4hockey]

And neither will Chychrun for vilardi, turcotte and a first

No problem. If the cost is Byfield the Kings should move on

 

[kinghock]

Kings fans: What defenseman do you think would pair best with Vilardi/Turcotte in a deal for Chychrun? It's reasonable to expect that the coyotes will want a D with upside coming back.

So I'm thinking 2023 1st, Turcotte (prefer him over Vilardi) + one of

Clarke
Bjornfot
Durzi
Grans
Faber

I'd figure Clarke is probably off the table as he has the highest ceiling. Could Bjornfot work?

Grans

 

[57special]

I'm not interested in Chychrun anymore. To be honest, I don't even think LA needs help at LD. With Clarke coming next season, there's not even going to be room. I would shift Durzi over to his off-side and call it a day. As is, LA is going to have to find a spot for Sean Walker (or trade him).

Anderson - Doughty
Durzi - Roy
Bjornfot - Clarke

Is Anderson really first pairing material?

I would think that Faber is a nice trade chip to dangle. He looks vg ...smart, and has all the tools, except for size, even though he isn't small, just moderately sized. Very nice skater, and can play both ways. Or is he a guy you want to keep?

 

[kinghock]

LA certainly won't be keeping all of the prospects they've amassed, but Rob Blake has already alluded to the price being way too high on Chychrun. Turcotte, Vilardi, and a first is too rich for my blood. LA's defense right now is, on average, 24 years old. Next season if we replace Maatta with Clarke, it'll be even younger. This team really just needs some time to learn and grow. If anything, I'd want to trade some of these prospects for an elite goal-scoring winger.

Or elite goalie

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Rob Blake should be fired if he does this.

Vilardi should be in the NHL and has no business being in the AHL at all.

Turcotte is underwhelming and injury prone but the talent is there to be a good middle six player.

The 1st is always interesting.

Watched Chychrun again last week and please. Let others overbid for this 2nd pairing defenseman.

 

[AKL]

There's a certain degree of irony in Kings fans questioning whether Chychrun is legit while simultaneously mocking anyone who turns down a package of Vilardi and Turcotte.

I'm more worried that Vilardi and Turcotte never become top 6 NHL players than I am that Chychrun isn't a top pairing defenseman.

 

[Coyotes19c]

Please keep him or find another suitor.

That’s honestly the plan. It would be completely different if he requested a trade or was a pending UFA. I know the offer was fair but we don’t want fair. We want an overpayment.

 

[kinghock]

That’s honestly the plan. It would be completely different if he requested a trade or was a pending UFA. I know the offer was fair but we don’t want fair. We want an overpayment.

good luck

 

[funky]

Turcotte or Vilardi
Bjornfot or Durzi or Walker
2022 1st
Grundstrum or Athanasious . - should be able to flip him for a pick. UFA at years end Want to see Grundstrum get playing time. Think he would be a great bottom 6 guy.

just looked at this. Kind of similar to the Muzzin trade but adding Turcotte/ Vilardi and a bit of a better pick for the extra years Chychrun has on his contract.

 

[TeddyBare]

There's a certain degree of irony in Kings fans questioning whether Chychrun is legit while simultaneously mocking anyone who turns down a package of Vilardi and Turcotte.

I'm more worried that Vilardi and Turcotte never become top 6 NHL players than I am that Chychrun isn't a top pairing defenseman.

That was my notion as well
Vilardi requires waivers next year, and hasn't shown much in the NHL

 

[kinghock]

There's a certain degree of irony in Kings fans questioning whether Chychrun is legit while simultaneously mocking anyone who turns down a package of Vilardi and Turcotte.

I'm more worried that Vilardi and Turcotte never become top 6 NHL players than I am that Chychrun isn't a top pairing defenseman.

OK, Chychrun is legit in Arizona’s opinion, but LA fans do not want to overpay for him.
How about that?

 

[kilowatt]

That was my notion as well
Vilardi requires waivers next year, and hasn't shown much in the NHL

Vilardi had 10 goals and 23 points in 54 games last year, at 21 years old, with questionable linemates. He showed an awful lot in the NHL. He was a rookie coming off two years of not playing hockey and he was pretty good, all things considered. He was better than Byfield, Turcotte, and Kupari, who were put in similar positions this season and did (or are doing) worse. This notion that Vilardi didn't show anything at the NHL level is just nonsense. He's now scoring at over a point per game in the AHL. He should be in the NHL, no question about it.

I'm not saying that Vilardi and Turcotte won't bust — there's a very real chance neither of them amount to much at the NHL level, as with any prospect — but I just don't think that trading both of them and a first for a player we might not actually really need makes a whole lot of sense. LA has Clarke, Faber, Spence, Grans, and Kirsanov in the near future on defense, plus Durzi, Anderson, and Bjornfot in the NHL, to say nothing of guys like Doughty, Roy, and Walker, who are proven NHL players.

I'm not Rob Blake, but if I was, I don't think Chychrun is my target right now.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

That was my notion as well
Vilardi requires waivers next year, and hasn't shown much in the NHL

Than you should be checking his stats for once.

7 points in his first 10 NHL games.
16G 35 points pace in his sophomore season.

Too bad you expected a PPG pace in his first 70 games for somebody who was out for 18 months.