Chychrun’s Megathread V (poll added)

[Coyotedroppings]

I wonder if some of the hold up is simply around the Coyotes giving conditions on how many games Chychrun plays. Would make sense if you are Ottawa, for example, to make a 1st conditional on playing minimum 75 games or suiting up for playoffs.

That’s some fine wondering, right there.

 

[Schemp]

I wonder if some of the hold up is simply around the Coyotes giving conditions on how many games Chychrun plays. Would make sense if you are Ottawa, for example, to make a 1st conditional on playing minimum 75 games or suiting up for playoffs.

I never thought Ottawa was seriously considering Chychrun. No desire for the Sens to pay the price and no need for another LHD. It's mostly coming through Chychrun's agent and the Ottawa media.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

I think its clear at this point that the Coyotes value him more than other teams do. Maybe Chychrun can take that and maybe rethink his approach, and if he still wants out, play your way out.

 

[Jamieh]

Absolutely not. His 10 team no-trade list doesn't kick in until next year. The rumour is Chychrun's camp told the team in question (Columbus) that he did not want to play for their organization. Based on that information the deal was torpedoed.

I don't believe that for even one second.

 

[Heldig]

That’s some fine wondering, right there.

OK? So you disagree an interested team may be concerned about Chychrun's ability to play a full season?

 

[Jamieh]

I don't think he sits out but he might. Trouba did it and he got traded. Sitting won't tarnish his character but it will put pressure on BA to trade him. His agent will be telling the team trading for him that his client was told one thing about rebuilding from BA, then it all changed, he wanted out, BA said he would work on it, now its been almost a year. Chych is tired of getting jacked around by BA and mislead. Chych sitting won't effect a teams thoughts on trading for him.

Wasn't Trouba an RFA when he sat out? So he wasn't actually "sitting out", he just didn't have a contract.

 

[cobra427]

Thanks for the lengthy explanation. Thing is he shouldn't need any motivation, no matter how tough the circumstance.

I agree, but we are all human. I think Chych is a good kid, but stuff like this likely has an effect.

Wasn't Trouba an RFA when he sat out? So he wasn't actually "sitting out", he just didn't have a contract.

You might be right on that, I didn't look it up.

 

[cobra427]

We are group of fans who aren't poker players. Panic city. Relax.

BA isn't a poker player either.

 

[Jamieh]

I agree, but we are all human. I think Chych is a good kid, but stuff like this likely has an effect.


You might be right on that, I didn't look it up.

I think the sit out year for Trouba was also 2 or 3 years before he was traded?

 

[hbk]

BA isn't a poker player either.

Managed to make it through the Crouse contract while a large number of folks here were having a meltdown. Managed to get a 1st and a 2nd for Dvorak. Managed to get a 1st and a top prospect for Keumper. He’s done okay being patient and waiting for the market to come to him.

 

[hbk]

I don't believe that for even one second.

Well Morgan has always made reference to Chychrun trying to dictate his landing soot in recent podcasts. What do u think that means?

 

[Jamieh]

Well Morgan has always made reference to Chychrun trying to dictate his landing soot in recent podcasts. What do u think that means?

Exactly what it says I guess. But I would doubt Columbus would even ask as they are trading for a guy with 2 or 3 years left on his deal. They would just make the deal they are comfortable with and move on.

 

[rt]

Exactly what it says I guess. But I would doubt Columbus would even ask as they are trading for a guy with 2 or 3 years left on his deal. They would just make the deal they are comfortable with and move on.

Jeff. Carter.

 

[Jamieh]

Jeff. Carter.

Jonathan Huberdeau.

 

[hbk]

Exactly what it says I guess. But I would doubt Columbus would even ask as they are trading for a guy with 2 or 3 years left on his deal. They would just make the deal they are comfortable with and move on.

Normally teams may want to know if the guy they are acquiring wants to play there. This is not uncommon; especially for a market like Columbus which has been burnt by players demanding out.

 

[rt]

Jonathan Huberdeau.

Didn't get traded to Columbus ya donkey.

 

[Jamieh]

Normally teams may want to know if the guy they are acquiring wants to play there. This is not uncommon; especially for a market like Columbus which has been burnt by players demanding out.

Yet that same GM traded for Laine with the intention to build the relationship over time. Anyway I'll stick to my thoughts that it's false that Colombus didn't trade for Chychrun because he nixed the deal. I doubt he even got a call about potential deals.

Didn't get traded to Columbus ya donkey.

Laine. That Carter deal is over a decade ago and pre-dates the GM. This GM is confident and makes deals. He doesn't cow tail to players. Huberdeau was an example of player not getting consulted on trade and certainly Calgary could have been nervous.

 

[rt]

Normally teams may want to know if the guy they are acquiring wants to play there. This is not uncommon; especially for a market like Columbus which has been burnt by players demanding out.

They traded Jake Voracek, Sean Couturier, and Nick Cousins to Philly for a player that literally cried like a baby when he found out he was going to there, and then pouted and sulked until they finally traded him for pennies on the dollar getting Jack Johnson and Marko Freaking Dano.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

OK? So you disagree an interested team may be concerned about Chychrun's ability to play a full season?

No Sir, it was written and should be read as a compliment.

 

[hbk]

Jonathan Huberdeau.

Who signed within days different market.

Yet that same GM traded for Laine with the intention to build the relationship over time. Anyway I'll stick to my thoughts that it's false that Colombus didn't trade for Chychrun because he nixed the deal. I doubt he even got a call about potential deals.


Laine. That Carter deal is over a decade ago and pre-dates the GM. This GM is confident and makes deals. He doesn't cow tail to players. Huberdeau was an example of player not getting consulted on trade and certainly Calgary could have been nervous.

Columbus or Winnipeg. Anything was an upgrade (I’m from Winnipeg)

 

[rt]

Yet that same GM traded for Laine with the intention to build the relationship over time. Anyway I'll stick to my thoughts that it's false that Colombus didn't trade for Chychrun because he nixed the deal. I doubt he even got a call about potential deals.


Laine. That Carter deal is over a decade ago and pre-dates the GM. This GM is confident and makes deals. He doesn't cow tail to players. Huberdeau was an example of player not getting consulted on trade and certainly Calgary could have been nervous.

The Finnish GM? You're being ridiculous. This isn't only wrong, but it's completely lacking in logic. I'm going to turn this conversation off. It's hurting my head. I'll see you and Jake again when camp starts. Enjoy the rest of your summer.

 

[Jamieh]

Who signed within days different market.

Columbus or Winnipeg. Anything was an upgrade (I’m from Winnipeg)

Interesting, the same logic could be used for a serious hockey player when getting traded out of AZ I guess. Huberdeau was traded without any consultation, that's the conversation.

The Finnish GM? You're being ridiculous. This isn't only wrong, but it's completely lacking in logic. I'm going to turn this conversation off. It's hurting my head. I'll see you and Jake again when camp starts. Enjoy the rest of your summer.

Using this silly logic AZ should never draft another college kid after Wheeler? It's silly.

 

[cobra427]

Managed to make it through the Crouse contract while a large number of folks here were having a meltdown. Managed to get a 1st and a 2nd for Dvorak. Managed to get a 1st and a top prospect for Keumper. He’s done okay being patient and waiting for the market to come to him.

Crouse was an RFA, he has no rights, he didn't sign here because of BA's brilliance. I would rather have DVO, he is the only decent C we had, we are down to zero now. Late first and mediocre prospect for Kuemper, and Colorado won a cup, and the trade because of it. What about botching the OEL situation by waiting a year and having to include Garland in that trade or Bunting leaving.

I think BA might be the right guy to build the team but wasn't experienced in a tear down and has botched it. We are likely ok though, the scouting and drafting will pay off down the road.

 

[hbk]

Crouse was an RFA, he has no rights, he didn't sign here because of BA's brilliance. I would rather have DVO, he is the only decent C we had, we are down to zero now. Late first and mediocre prospect for Kuemper, and Colorado won a cup, and the trade because of it. What about botching the OEL situation by waiting a year and having to include Garland in that trade or Bunting leaving.

I think BA might be the right guy to build the team but wasn't experienced in a tear down and has botched it. We are likely ok though, the scouting and drafting will pay off down the road.

He got UFA years from Crouse. He didn’t have to.

He got a 1st and 2nd for Dvorak when few thought we could get a first.

Keumper was dealt not just for the first that nobody thought we could get let alone a prospect like Timmins included.

BA did sacrifice the OEL situation by getting a top 10 pick. Yes we lost Garland but how have the Canucks made out in their attempts to move him? If we had Garland now we would be trying to deal him and hoping to get a 3rd right now.

How did we make out on that Adin Hill trade in hindsight?

BA has done well waiting.

 

[moosemeister]

how can a guy botch a tear down when the team finishes 31st? Hahaha

I say mission accomplished