Value of: Christopher Tanev to Toronto

TheKrebsCycle

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Correct me if I'm wrong but if with the expansion draft coming up would we not end up having to leave one of rielly, gardiner, tanev and Zaitsev (he's been a pro player for over 3 years) unprotected if were to do this trade

7 actually.

edit. never mind I get it.
 

SuperGM17

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Correct me if I'm wrong but if with the expansion draft coming up would we not end up having to leave one of rielly, gardiner, tanev and Zaitsev (he's been a pro player for over 3 years) unprotected if were to do this trade

Zaitsev is safe to my knowledge. Same sort of situation as Artemi Panarin. Even though he's been playing "pro" in KHL it doesnt count. Only NHL and i think AHL expierence
 

Halla

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Wow an NHLer made a few dangles. Just because he sometimes has good hands does not mean he is good! There are plenty of players with good hands. Im not even a Vancouver fan and i still realize how ******** it would be to accept Kadri hahahah Show me some more clips of some overrated players from your franchise :laugh:
vancouver fans certaintly know overrated with guys like horvat, tanev and virtanen .

and yes, tanev is a great player but when he is talked up like doughty, yet he has no offensive ability, its just comical
 

Aintboutdatlyfe*

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You can argue anything but Nylander over Draisaitl right now isn't a good one. Draisaitl is much bigger, put up 50+ points at 19 in the NHL, and has come out of the gate strongly this year. Sure Nylander might end up the better player but right now pretty much every team would take Draisaitl over Nylander given the choice.

It's not Nylander's fault the Leafs intentionally sent him down to tank last year. Nylander has a more than legitimate argument. 18 points in 26 games which is a 57 point pace, and more importantly, after he had his adjustment period to NHL speed (And he follows this pattern in every league he plays in) has put up 16 points in his last 16 games. He's a true star talent. Draisaitl is too, it could go either way. But the only advantage Drai has had so far is that Edmonton had a different development philosophy.
 

SuperGM17

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vancouver fans certaintly know overrated with guys like horvat, tanev and virtanen .

and yes, tanev is a great player but when he is talked up like doughty, yet he has no offensive ability, its just comical

I agree with you. Every franchise has their overrated players. This seems to be a trade of overrated for overrated player aha. I've watched a few vancouver games and Horvat is a good player, but no #1 center or even #2 likely. Tanev is also a great defenseman. But not top 10 aha
 

Bourne Endeavor

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The problem with that is both are better than Tanev especially Nylander

Then you clearly haven't watched Tanev. Advanced stats put his defensive play amongst the highest in the league last season. Meanwhile, Marner or Nylander are nothing but potential. If neither are in the conversation, then there isn't one to have. At least not for Tanev.
 

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I wouldn't move Tanev for anything short of a huge overpayment. He's 26, on a very good contract, extremely reliable and poised, and makes everyone he plays with better.
 

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Kadri is overpaid, unskilled and honestly just a complete jackass from what ive seen. He is no where near the value of Tanev and he is not what Vancouver needs right now. I lol'd at the Nylander /marner trades. BIG time no for Vancouver. Fans would be in an absolute riot not to mention OP listed several points that contradict his own trade.
It's just a trade, not a game 7 finals loss
 

Red Piller

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vancouver fans certaintly know overrated with guys like horvat, tanev and virtanen .

and yes, tanev is a great player but when he is talked up like doughty, yet he has no offensive ability, its just comical

I know. Morgan Rielly and his 36 points, franchise dman already.

Dion is a top 20 defenseman. Jake gardiner, all rookie team. Percy is a top pairing dman type prospect. Leipsic top 6 forward. Kozun rookie of the year candidate. Rich Clune, mentorer of young guys extrordinaire.
 
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LEAFANFORLIFE23

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Then you clearly haven't watched Tanev. Advanced stats put his defensive play amongst the highest in the league last season. Meanwhile, Marner or Nylander are nothing but potential. If neither are in the conversation, then there isn't one to have. At least not for Tanev.

Thing is I don't give a single **** about advanced stats. they are a trend that will fail the moment a team run by an advanced stat nerd fails eg Arizona once their GM gets fired and he will, the NHL will go back to evaluating talent based on what they see and not "advanced stats."
 

Halla

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Then you clearly haven't watched Tanev. Advanced stats put his defensive play amongst the highest in the league last season. Meanwhile, Marner or Nylander are nothing but potential. If neither are in the conversation, then there isn't one to have. At least not for Tanev.

Nylander has 16pts in his last 16 games.
nothing but potential is a bit of a stretch.
lets not forget the kid turned 20 during the offseason
 

Halla

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I know. Morgan Rielly and his 36 points, franchise dman already.

Dion is a top 20 defenseman. Jake gardiner, all rookie team. Percy is a top pairing dman type prospect. Leipsic top 6 forward. Kozun rookie of the year candidate. Rich Clune, mentorer of young guys extrordinaire.

remember when Vancouver had 2 of the top 5 goalies in the league?
Edler top 20, Horvat a #1C already, Virtanen>Nylander, Boeser the best player not in the NHL, Tanev a franchise dman that has yet to top 20 pts. lawl :laugh:
 

Red Piller

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Tanev was years away from even being relevant at the same age.

That's great. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. You said we over rate guys but you think Morgan is already a number 1. Makes sense though.
 

Aintboutdatlyfe*

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That's great. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. You said we over rate guys but you think Morgan is already a number 1. Makes sense though.

Well he's better than Tanev already. As seen when he team Canada's #1 and best D at the world Championships, not Tanev. Who was #2 to Mo
 

JarvisFunk

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As an Oiler fan who doesn't like Vancouver, and sees a ton of Tanev. Marner or Nylander absolutely would have to be coming back.

He's also better than Rielly at the moment.
 

Pip

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Zaitsev is the best Russian defenceman in hockey. At least until Provorov is ready.

Tanev is really good but he's no Zaitsev.

What does Zaitsev being Russian have to do with anything. He's a got a LOT to prove that he's better than one of the best defensive defensemen in the league.
 

Red Piller

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remember when Vancouver had 2 of the top 5 goalies in the league?
Edler top 20, Horvat a #1C already, Virtanen>Nylander, Boeser the best player not in the NHL, Tanev a franchise dman that has yet to top 20 pts. lawl :laugh:

We did though.

Nobody said Virtanen was better and if they did they are wrong. Tanev is a number 2. An extremely good one. Ask any fan if they think so and they will say yes. Atleast fans in the West will. Boeser is a good prospect. I think you may take hockey a bit too seriously, and also posting on this board a bit too seriously also. There is more to life than hfboards and hockey, if I can give you some advice it would be to take a deep breath and go outside. Maybe step away from it for a bit because its affecting your life in a negative way.
 

Aintboutdatlyfe*

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As an Oiler fan who doesn't like Vancouver, and sees a ton of Tanev. Marner or Nylander absolutely would have to be coming back.

He's also better than Rielly at the moment.


When they were on the same team (IIHF) Rielly was better.

No Tanev trade would happen. As Tanev simply does not have the value of Nylander, Marner, or Rielly. And I don't expect that Vancouver would want a package.
 

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