Value of: Christopher Tanev to Toronto

[CherryToke]

Kadri? **** off.

 

[Aintboutdatlyfe*]

Yeah fair enough, Tanev is what he is now. He's a #2 D.

I guess what it comes down to, Tanev would make you better right now this season, but you're playing the long game and banking on Nylander hitting his ceiling 4-5 years from now.

In the Leafs situation, that makes sense. You've got a bunch of young talent coming up all at the same time. By the way, Nielsen is criminally underrated by your fan base. Kid is a stud, watched him a lot in the WHL. He's a surefire NHLer, likely tops out at a #3/4 who can play the PP.

Thank you for this, I've followed his game real close ever since we drafted him. Extremely high on him. Agree with you that he is a surefire NHLer. I wouldn't necessarily bet on it but I have hopes that he can be a Parayko like top pairing upside. I think he's our #1 prospect after big 3 graduates. I'm not as high as some of our other top 10 guys as some Leaf fans. But Nielsen is something else I think.

 

[Aintboutdatlyfe*]

yeah asking for Nylander or Marner is wishful thinking. The comparison would be Canucks trading Horvat+2nd+something else for Hjalmarrson, which I doubt the crowd that is asking for Nylander or Marner would do.

Leaf Fans you guys never gave your opinions on the original trade proposal. I think it's a fair deal with a defensive prospect being added in. Have any suggestions?

I'd jump all over the initial offer of Kadri Tanev in a hot minute. Canucks wouldn't though. It'd have to be a package coming from our end. Or realistically just wouldn't happen. Or a Jim Benning special

 

[kk87]

Kadri for Tanev is really bad value for Vancouver. Can't blame Nucks fans for saying conversation would start at Marner or Nylander+, given how valuable Tanev is to them, but the Leafs wouldn't touch that in a million years. I don't think there's a deal to be made here.

 

[snipes]

Thank you for this, I've followed his game real close ever since we drafted him. Extremely high on him. Agree with you that he is a surefire NHLer. I wouldn't necessarily bet on it but I have hopes that he can be a Parayko like top pairing upside. I think he's our #1 prospect after big 3 graduates. I'm not as high as some of our other top 10 guys as some Leaf fans. But Nielsen is something else I think.

He's your typical, tough big bodied WHL Dman. I have him over Dermott, he brings more to the table.

He'll have a long career, his basement and ceiling are close. He's a safe bet to be an NHLer. Love his physical side. His ceiling/basement is likely #3/5, plus he can kill penalties and he's got a huge shot from the PP.

He'll be an NHL Dman well into his 30s. Guys like him are who you want on your mid-bottom pairing, tough and versatile. You can throw him out to kill penalties or out on the PP as a trigger man. His shot is deadly.

 

[Aintboutdatlyfe*]

He's your typical, tough big bodied WHL Dman. I have him over Dermott, he brings more to the table.

He'll have a long career, his basement and ceiling are close. He's a safe bet to be an NHLer. Love his physical side. His ceiling/basement is likely #3/5, plus he can kill penalties and he's got a huge shot from the PP.

He'll be an NHL Dman well into his 30s. Guys like him are who you want on your mid-bottom pairing, tough and versatile. You can throw him out to kill penalties or out on the PP as a trigger man. His shot is deadly.

See, Dermott is one of those top 10 ones I mentioned that I'm not all that high on, reminds me of Stu Percy, with more of an edge.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Yah Kadri isnt enough as a basis imo but Marner/Nylander seems too much. This Leaf fan would take Tanev over Zaitsev in an instant and I've been plenty impressed with Zaitsev from the jump but Tanev is so solid and established/battle tested. Leafs seems high on Nielsen as are Leaf fans from what I've read/observed (board prospect ranks), not exactly a forgotten man; Many view him the top Leaf D prospect (I'm in agreement that he is more promising than Dermott, generally they get ranked closely)

 

[Scorvat]

How high are you guys on Carrick? Babbcock seems to like him, but judging from the Leaf board many of you guys are saying he's not ready to play in the NHL

 

[McMatthews]

How high are you guys on Carrick? Babbcock seems to like him, but judging from the Leaf board many of you guys are saying he's not ready to play in the NHL

Carrick is pretty good offensively but needs to learn the defensive side of the game.

He is NHL ready but he's going to make mistakes. He just needs to adjust.

 

[snipes]

See, Dermott is one of those top 10 ones I mentioned that I'm not all that high on, reminds me of Stu Percy, with more of an edge.

He's soft too, and prone to turnovers. I'm not a fan Dermott, I don't think he's an NHLer.

If I'm picking a guy that is a guaranteed bottom pairing guy at the minimum, I take Nielsen without thinking twice. Better shot, more physical, bigger and nastier. Like I said can kill penalties or run a power play. Guys like Nielsen in your mid-bottom pairing are the unnoticed guys who make up a big part of team success.

We know how to build our tough Dmen in the WHL .

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

How high are you guys on Carrick? Babbcock seems to like him, but judging from the Leaf board many of you guys are saying he's not ready to play in the NHL

Good skater, gritty, offensive talent/strong hard shot, but has defensive lapses/bad judgment (ill advised passes and knowing when to pinch). He's got a good basis of skills. I think most hope he becomes a solid 3rd pairing guy that can excel on the pp, ideally a more physical Ellis.

 

[Puckclektr]

Good luck to you guys.

I'll always cheer for McDavid. Good Toronto boy.

You spelled Newmarket wrong.

 

[McMatthews]

You spelled Newmarket wrong.

I'm from Newmarket.

We identify ourselves as being from Toronto, when we're out of province/country.

 

[SuperGM17]

Kadri is overpaid, unskilled and honestly just a complete jackass from what ive seen. He is no where near the value of Tanev and he is not what Vancouver needs right now. I lol'd at the Nylander /marner trades. BIG time no for Vancouver. Fans would be in an absolute riot not to mention OP listed several points that contradict his own trade.

 

[McMatthews]

Kadri is overpaid, unskilled and honestly just a complete jackass from what ive seen. He is no where near the value of Tanev and he is not what Vancouver needs right now. I lol'd at the Nylander /marner trades. BIG time no for Vancouver. Fans would be in an absolute riot not to mention OP listed several points that contradict his own trade.

 

[BlueBaron]

Canucks would be stupid to part with Tanev and we would be stupid to pay the huge price it would take to get him. Kadri surely would not get it done. The only way I could see something like this happening is if the Canucks truly committed to a rebuild and wanted to grab a bunch of our prospects+ a player. Even then we probably would not do that kind of trade just yet.

 

[Ace101]

You could argue both of these in favour of the Leafs as well, to be fair, only time will tell.

You can argue anything but Nylander over Draisaitl right now isn't a good one. Draisaitl is much bigger, put up 50+ points at 19 in the NHL, and has come out of the gate strongly this year. Sure Nylander might end up the better player but right now pretty much every team would take Draisaitl over Nylander given the choice.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Kadri is overpaid, unskilled and honestly just a complete jackass from what ive seen. He is no where near the value of Tanev and he is not what Vancouver needs right now. I lol'd at the Nylander /marner trades. BIG time no for Vancouver. Fans would be in an absolute riot not to mention OP listed several points that contradict his own trade.

Everything leads to a riot in Vancouver.

And what a clueless opinion of Kadri's game. Just as bad as the OP's trade offer.

 

[Scorvat]

Good skater, gritty, offensive talent/strong hard shot, but has defensive lapses/bad judgment (ill advised passes and knowing when to pinch). He's got a good basis of skills. I think most hope he becomes a solid 3rd pairing guy that can excel on the pp, ideally a more physical Ellis.

Sounds like a Bieksa. Just make sure you pair him with a solid, stable 2nd pairing guy and make sure he never on the ice with a guy like a Sbisa, unless you want to watch a complete ****show and if you do just watch the Canucks 2015 playoffs

 

[Halla]

just insta lock any tanev to toronto trades.
the last thread had a guy saying he wouldnt move tanev for auston matthews because #1D are hard to get.

Tanev would look great on the leafs, but they arent moving Marner/Nylander +.

20 year old Nylander has 16 pts in his last 16 NHL games by the way. should be a ROY candidate. those kinda guys just dont get traded by rebuilding teams for 27 year old dmen

 

[SuperGM17]

Wow an NHLer made a few dangles. Just because he sometimes has good hands does not mean he is good! There are plenty of players with good hands. Im not even a Vancouver fan and i still realize how ******** it would be to accept Kadri hahahah Show me some more clips of some overrated players from your franchise

 

[Puckclektr]

I'm from Newmarket.

We identify ourselves as being from Toronto, when we're out of province/country.

Me too. this is different though.

 

[morrielly]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if with the expansion draft coming up would we not end up having to leave one of rielly, gardiner, tanev and Zaitsev (he's been a pro player for over 3 years) unprotected if were to do this trade

 

[AvroArrow]

Canucks getting ripped of big time. I'll take this any day of the week. Given Bennings track record though wouldn't surprise me if he did make a move like this

 

[Halla]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if with the expansion draft coming up would we not end up having to leave one of rielly, gardiner, tanev and Zaitsev (he's been a pro player for over 3 years) unprotected if were to do this trade

you are wrong.

zaitsev doesnt need to be protected. Pro only counts for NHL/AHL experience otherwise 18 year old swedes/russians/fins would be at risk