Value of: Chris Tanev

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It doesn’t even need to age, it’s a terrible take right now.

It was rumoured that the Canucks were offering a 2nd and Raty in order to have Tanev included in the Lindholm trade. I think that’s rightfully as high as they’d go.
If that rumoured offer is true, seems pretty fair to me. Would like to get a 1st for Tanev but realistically I think it'll be something closer to that example.
 
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If that rumoured offer is true, seems pretty fair to me. Would like to get a 1st for Tanev but realistically I think it'll be something closer to that example.
I think if there is a 1st it will come from Toronto as they don’t have any 2nds in the upcoming drafts. I also imagine that would have to come with 50% retention as well. But 2nd and a B prospect is probably what most teams would be offering I imagine.
 

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That's making a massive assumption that the Canucks would have picked Andersson though, that's why comparing who was picked is futile, as there is just a good if a chance the Canucks would have drafted a bust.
I’m not saying we would’ve picked him at all… but if you didn’t trade Sven you wouldn’t have one of your best defenders, it’s pretty clear that that deal favours Calgary

The 2nd was a 2nd. It wasn't Andrrsson, it was a lottery ticket, just like every other pick traded. There's no guarantee the Canucks would have drafted him.
Interesting you didn’t reply to my other posts you were complaining about and went for something new… you love telling me things that I already know though it’s the HF special I love it. Sven Baertschi was obviously not worth a second round pick lol.
 

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I’m not saying we would’ve picked him at all… but if you didn’t trade Sven you wouldn’t have one of your best defenders, it’s pretty clear that that deal favours Calgary


Interesting you didn’t reply to my other posts you were complaining about and went for something new… you love telling me things that I already know though it’s the HF special I love it. Sven Baertschi was obviously not worth a second round pick lol.
Yet you continue to make ridiculous statements that need to be challenged. Suggesting the Baertschi trade was a massive overpayment because Calgary ended up taking Andersson with the 2nd is just wrong. You keep saying you know these things but that's opposite of the statements you keep making.
 

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0 interest in any move of Cowan for a 34 year old UFA no matter how much HF boards pretends he's "perfect".

You're just like vancouver fans a couple years ago, literally seem word for word a Canucks fan but now Taney is even older and more beaten up.
Tanev was worth a 1st+ when Vancouver fans were asking for one. His play afterwards pretty much vindicated that
 

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It doesn’t even need to age, it’s a terrible take right now.

It was rumoured that the Canucks were offering a 2nd and Raty in order to have Tanev included in the Lindholm trade. I think that’s rightfully as high as they’d go.
Is a 2nd and Raty real? I am actually kind of surprised they didn't take that.
 

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Is a 2nd and Raty real? I am actually kind of surprised they didn't take that.

Maybe Conroy is holding out for a first. If it’s close to the TDL and nothing better is there, he probably circles back to Vanc
 

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Is a 2nd and Raty real? I am actually kind of surprised they didn't take that.
That seems like really good value for tanev. It would be a 2025 2nd, so that may have factored in. Raty is a solid prospect, I think people forget he just turned 21.
 
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That seems like really good value for tanev. It would be a 2025 2nd, so that may have factored in. Raty is a solid prospect, I think people forget he just turned 21.
Yeah, I would have been fine with that as a Flames fan. Hadn't heard it elsewhere. I assumed the Canucks were just trying to add in a 2nd by itself.
 
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Doubt the Flames had interest in Raty; his AHL numbers are very unimpressive. In comparison, Coronato, who's the exact same age as Raty (literally same birthday), has 32 in 30 and he's struggled to make an impact in the NHL thus far.
 
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Tanev was worth a 1st+ when Vancouver fans were asking for one. His play afterwards pretty much vindicated that
The most i would have ever oferered for Canucks Tanev was a conditional first rounder that dropped a round every 10 games he missed due to injury, canucks fans always scoffed and they got nothing when he left. Considering he only once played 70 games in his time there and didnt have a long playoff run until his final season in Vancouver, why in the world would we pay any more than that? (nobody else did, fyi)

Now hes 34, a UFA again, our team isnt a contender and the report is that "itll cost Toronto more than anybody else just because Treilving works there now!".

Hard pass on anything valuable going for Tanev, if he makes it to the summer and wants to be here he can sign a 2 year deal, im sure as shit not giving up our best prospect for him, even with a 2nd in a much, much worse draft attached.
 

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Yet you continue to make ridiculous statements that need to be challenged. Suggesting the Baertschi trade was a massive overpayment because Calgary ended up taking Andersson with the 2nd is just wrong. You keep saying you know these things but that's opposite of the statements you keep making.
Baertschi did nothing, Calgary got Rasmus Andersson.. how is that not a steal for them? If the Canucks had picked their own player in that stacked draft the odds are very high that player would’ve been superior to Sven who did absolutely nothing. Nothing challengeable
 

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Baertschi did nothing, Calgary got Rasmus Andersson.. how is that not a steal for them? If the Canucks had picked their own player in that stacked draft the odds are very high that player would’ve been superior to Sven who did absolutely nothing. Nothing challengeable
If the Flames had picked Graham Knott with the 2nd does that make Baertschi a steal for the Canucks? No, because they traded a 2nd not Graham Knott.
 

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If the Flames had picked Graham Knott with the 2nd does that make Baertschi a steal for the Canucks? No, because they traded a 2nd not Graham Knott.
You guys are ridiculous for this lol. It’s obvious you don’t make trades like that in the most stacked draft class we’ve ever seen. 2nd was an overpay for Baertschi and everyone knows it regardless of the player selected with the pick.
 

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You guys are ridiculous for this lol. It’s obvious you don’t make trades like that in the most stacked draft class we’ve ever seen. 2nd was an overpay for Baertschi and everyone knows it regardless of the player selected with the pick.

This wasn't the argument you were making in your earlier posts though, you were making an argument that because the Flames drafted Andersson with that pick it was a big steal for the Flames.

Now you are shifting your argument to "trading a 2nd in a stacked draft class" is an overpay. This is an argument you can make but it is different from the argument you were making earlier.
 
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This wasn't the argument you were making in your earlier posts though, you were making an argument that because the Flames drafted Andersson with that pick it was a big steal for the Flames.

Now you are shifting your argument to "trading a 2nd in a stacked draft class" is an overpay. This is an argument you can make but it is different from the argument you were making earlier.
The Rasmus mention was more so my confusion at how Flames fans think this wasn’t an overpay for a player that did nothing for us.
 
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InfinityIggy

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The Rasmus mention was more so my confusion at how Flames fans think this wasn’t an overpay for a player that did nothing for us.
Fair enough. FWIW at the time I was pissed they flipped Sven for a 2nd. I figured he just needed a little more time and was going to break out. I felt the Flames got impatient and moved on, and to some extent I still think its true they mismanaged him.

Never really came together for him in Vancouver though.
 

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I refuse to believe baertschi for a 2nd at the time was an overpay either. sven was a former blue chip prospect who struggled and was traded as a high risk reclamation project, that around what they usually trade for
 

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It doesn’t even need to age, it’s a terrible take right now.

It was rumoured that the Canucks were offering a 2nd and Raty in order to have Tanev included in the Lindholm trade. I think that’s rightfully as high as they’d go.

Flames wanted the 2025 1st for Tanev to be involved, Vancouver said no.

That's what the Flames think Tanev is worth and with a bidding war and the Flames holding the top 2 D, they'll get that from someone.
 

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I refuse to believe baertschi for a 2nd at the time was an overpay either. sven was a former blue chip prospect who struggled and was traded as a high risk reclamation project, that around what they usually trade for
Treliving said at the time of the trade no other team offered anything close to a 2nd for Baetschi. It was one of the many transactions that Benning was criticized for over his tenure as Canucks’ GM.
 

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