Value of: Chris Tanev

[Grandrift145]

I think his value is higher than Dougie Hamiltons when he was traded because he is signed to a good contract, but otherwise they had similar on ice value

If the Canucks want to start a rebuild this summer and are looking for picks and prospects instead of NHL players I could see the leafs being a good trading partner

At the draft I could see the leafs offering

1st round pick (13-17), 2 second round picks and a prospect like, Bracco and Neilson

Trading Tanev for a top 6 forward will not make the Canucks a better team, They are better off keeping him

 

[Cogburn]

I think his value is higher than Dougie Hamiltons when he was traded because he is signed to a good contract, but otherwise they had similar on ice value

If the Canucks want to start a rebuild this summer and are looking for picks and prospects instead of NHL players I could see the leafs being a good trading partner

At the draft I could see the leafs offering

1st round pick (13-17), 2 second round picks and a prospect like, Bracco and Neilson

Trading Tanev for a top 6 forward will not make the Canucks a better team, They are better off keeping him

If we were to move him, we'd have to get a top flight young forward back. We're not interested in depth, as we have depth in most categories, and those we don't have depth in, it is much easier to acquire then shipping out our MVP (based on play with and without Tanev in the line up).

If we can't get that, we'll continue to hold on to him, we're not selling him, more collecting offers if anything.

 

[Nuckles]

I think his value is higher than Dougie Hamiltons when he was traded because he is signed to a good contract, but otherwise they had similar on ice value

If the Canucks want to start a rebuild this summer and are looking for picks and prospects instead of NHL players I could see the leafs being a good trading partner

At the draft I could see the leafs offering

1st round pick (13-17), 2 second round picks and a prospect like, Bracco and Neilson

Trading Tanev for a top 6 forward will not make the Canucks a better team, They are better off keeping him

Start with Nylander and add from there. We're not going to move him for a mid 1st and a bunch of 2nds.

 

[Idlerlee]

Its a generous offer, but we're looking for a one piece return more then a package.

Zuccarello is a lot of what we'd need, but his size is a concern, and his age has us going in the wrong direction. Also a shooter would be preferred over a playmaker, but as long as the pucks go in the net that's a minor detail.

A late first doesn't give us what we need either, as it will likely be someone further down the line up, if we manage not to screw up their development (this is a real concern of mine).

Zborovskiy seems relatively impressive, but we don't need more defenders, we have our potential top end guys, we have our potential middle guys and even a lot of depth D. We also are stocked with goaltending prospects, making Halverson nice, but redundant.

Again, it is a generous offer, but it's not the kind of return we'd want.

Zuccarello shoots more than anyone on the Rangers. His size is not a detriment, that kinda has to go away after proving himself for so many years.

But fair enough on the age, he's 29 and ready to retire in a couple years

 

[Cogburn]

Zuccarello shoots more than anyone on the Rangers. His size is not a detriment, that kinda has to go away after proving himself for so many years.

But fair enough on the age, he's 29 and ready to retire in a couple years

Whenever I've seen him play he seemed far more the playmaker then the finisher. His usual point totals seemed to have support my thoughts (I'll admit I don't watch anywhere close to as many Ranger games as fans of the team will, but I do see some), but I defer to your expertise.

As for the size, it's not an insult, but we get muscled due to sheer physics as it is. Every team in our division is built keying into size, and not just through top players or goons, but everyone. Zuccarello has proven without a doubt he belongs in the league, size be damned, but I'm not convinced he should be a key focus for the already out muscled Canucks. Even the Sedins, who are normally my shining example of physicality not being a prerequisite, are being forced further and further off their games, and while they don't initiate contact, they play through it like champs. They are being affected by the shift in our division.

29 isn't old, but if we move Tanev, we're essentially saying we don't want to compete for a few years. We'd be rebuilding, not looking to "fill a hole" on our roster, so 29 is older then we'd be focusing on.

 

[Halla]

Start with Nylander and add from there. We're not going to move him for a mid 1st and a bunch of 2nds.

start with Nylander?

no, you dont get a 55-60pt 20 year old rookie + for Tanev.
15-20 pt defense only players who are made of glass arent worth that.

 

[Liferleafer]

Start with Nylander and add from there. We're not going to move him for a mid 1st and a bunch of 2nds.

Start with Nylander? Then add?

No.

 

[Doublechin]

Tanev's value is probably a bit higher than Petry 2 years ago and he landed 2 2nds if I remember right. So maybe a first and a 2nd tops.

 

[loyaltotheend]

Start with Nylander and add from there. We're not going to move him for a mid 1st and a bunch of 2nds.

While it's fine to say you don't want to move him for a few picks, there is no way he gets you Nylander, let alone anything added. Hilarious.

 

[ACC1224]

Start with Nylander and add from there. We're not going to move him for a mid 1st and a bunch of 2nds.

Add? About the only thing added to that is laughter.

 

[Hunter368]

Neutral fan here, I think both sides have fair points.

I doubt Leafs can land Tanev for just picks.

I doubt Nucks land Nylander for Tanev.

Only thing I can see is KK, 1st and C level prospect maybe. Nylander is too much, picks alone are too little.

 

[Randy Randerson]

Neutral fan here, I think both sides have fair points.

I doubt Leafs can land Tanev for just picks.

I doubt Nucks land Nylander for Tanev.

Only thing I can see is KK, 1st and C level prospect maybe. Nylander is too much, picks alone are too little.

seems like a fair assessment, I thought that he could be had with our 1st being the centre piece of the deal earlier in the year but it doesn't seem like it's going to be a top 10 pick at this point

 

[Brock Radunske]

Start with Nylander and add from there. We're not going to move him for a mid 1st and a bunch of 2nds.

I like Tanev and maybe that would be the cost if he was a more durable defenseman.
He's NEVER played a full season and the most he's ever played has been 70 games. His games played are the following; 29, 25, 38, 64, 70, 69, 21. Those are the numbers of a starting goalie, not a stalwart #2 defenseman.
Guys that can't stay healthy don't return blue-chip prospects.

 

[Mikos87]

Well you have to ask yourselves what would you want for him?

My feeling on the Canucks is that they have to embrace the rebuild instead of building Willie's credentials.

You always want to win, but Van City is headed towards that 6-14th pick limbo for a few years.

Tanev should net:
Young NHL Center, Top 4 D Prospect that can step in right away, and 2nd/prospect

That's 3 pieces for a rock of an anchor of a defense man.

Teams will pay.

 

[34]

I would not offer anything for Tanev. Not even a 2nd or 3rd round pick alone. He would be our #4 D.

 

[34]

Start with Nylander and add from there. We're not going to move him for a mid 1st and a bunch of 2nds.

Nylander? Lou laughs and hangs up the phone.

Nylander is untouchable.

 

[Brock Radunske]

I would not offer anything for Tanev. Not even a 2nd or 3rd round pick alone. He would be our #4 D.

Thread derail in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

 

[TOGuy14]

Well you have to ask yourselves what would you want for him?

My feeling on the Canucks is that they have to embrace the rebuild instead of building Willie's credentials.

You always want to win, but Van City is headed towards that 6-14th pick limbo for a few years.

Tanev should net:
Young NHL Center, Top 4 D Prospect that can step in right away, and 2nd/prospect

That's 3 pieces for a rock of an anchor of a defense man.

Teams will pay.

Don't think VAN will get that much in a trade of Tanev.

Beside his very limited offensive ability he also has a decent injury history. Not exactly someone who will reliably be an anchor of any defence...

 

[ZiGOODejad]

I would not offer anything for Tanev. Not even a 2nd or 3rd round pick alone. He would be our #4 D.

Then why are you even here.....

 

[Hunter368]

I would not offer anything for Tanev. Not even a 2nd or 3rd round pick alone. He would be our #4 D.

Not a productive comment, just say you're not interested. Comments like your just flame the thread b/c your comments are so over the top.

 

[34]

Then why are you even here.....

For the fact that none of Nylander, Marner, Matthews, Rielly, Kadri are all not available.

It is the same as saying we want Horvat and a 1st for Zaitsev. Not going to happen! Nylander or ANY of Toronto's elite young core will NOT be traded for Tanev. Take that to the bank. Guaranteed.

 

[34]

Not a productive comment, just say you're not interested. Comments like your just flame the thread b/c your comments are so over the top.

A non-productive comment is asking for Marner Nyander 1st for Tanev. That is flaming BIG TIME!

 

[4thline]

The return of a single elite level young ELC player for a player like Tanev would be pretty much unprecedented. Highly unlikely.
Off the top of my head the only trades involving Nylander/Marner level young assets in the cap age were

Pronger
Carter
Richards
Johansen
Kessel to Leafs (and only then because of bad gamble on a poorly structured deal.

Tanev at 27 signed for 3 more years after this is not in that asset class.
Realistically if he's moved it will be for either

A similar aged top-line forward with a couple years to UFA
A mid first + nhl ready/proven 21-24 year old player with top 4d/top 6F but not likely top pair/ine potential + a B+ prospect (sliding scale between the three pieces as needed)

 

[ZiGOODejad]

For the fact that none of Nylander, Marner, Matthews, Rielly, Kadri are all not available.

It is the same as saying we want Horvat and a 1st for Zaitsev. Not going to happen! Nylander or ANY of Toronto's elite young core will NOT be traded for Tanev. Take that to the bank. Guaranteed.

I don't need to take any of that to the bank it's not like they are asking for a star player for complete crap views are different opinions are different. Just like any trade offer that's laughed at here might not be laughed at by actual GMs we don't know how they come to these trade conclusions. They certainly aren't scolding each other about them because it's unprofessional. So if you don't like this board as u are a leafs fan(?) on a Tanev thread take your toys and go home.

 

[Superlative Soup]

A non-productive comment is asking for Marner Nyander 1st for Tanev. That is flaming BIG TIME!

Which never happened?