Chris Kreider

[coolbreeze callahan]

He looks clueless guys come on. He gets behind the dfense because of his speed a few times last year so everybody goes crazy. Maybe this year opponents are watching him and paying attention to him. To me alls he has is speed. I do not see anything else. And by the way when he does get behind dfense he goes down and shoots the puck right into goaltenders chest......

 

[NikC]

Where's the patient rebuild crowd?

 

[chosen]

Canadians "gave up" on Lecalair and look how that turned out.

Kreider has many tools but his hockey IQ is lacking. He's a good player because of his natural abilities. He also takes many "big dumb puppy" penalties like the young dog who doesn't know how strong he is.

He's a playoff performer in his three go arounds. Maybe he's another Kovalev; decent during the regular season and tops out as a 20-20 guy but during the playoffs when you generally play the same 6-7 defensemen you can begin to exploit them.

He's not somebody who should even be in consideration to be traded at this point. Let him figure it out and hope that someday he takes the next step.

For every Leclair, there are 100 who don't break out.

Kovalev topped out as a 20-20 guy?

Check your statistics.

 

[Roo Returns]

Kovalev topped out as a 20-20 guy?

Check your statistics.

LOL, you know what I meant.....it's early on the East Coast. Kovalev was a 55-60 point guy when he should've been a 75-80 point guy. Kreider might only be a 20-20 guy.

 

[silverfish]

It's funny, I went to look at Kreider's stats just now expecting around 164 regular season NHL games played. Nope, not close. 113.

He's struggling. Most of the team is struggling. With Kreider though, it's easy to see why he's struggling, and it's because he's not really that engaged physically.

Before the Minnesota game, Kreider had 6 points in 8 games. After the Minnesota game? 7 points in 15 games.

That's not a coincidence.

The coaching staff needs to keep telling him to get engaged physically. Throw the weight around. Get your head in the game. Keep your legs moving.

That's Kreider's game. If he does that, the points will come.

 

[chosen]

LOL, you know what I meant.....it's early on the East Coast. Kovalev was a 55-60 point guy when he should've been a 75-80 point guy. Kreider might only be a 20-20 guy.

It's still a horrible analogy. Kovalev put up over 1000 points and had years that were much better than 60 points. The only thing similar between them was that we expected more. If Kovalev gave us more, he might have been a top 100 ever forward.

 

[NYR Viper]

It's something he's been trying to figure out since college yet you're sure consistency will come.

I won't hold my breath.

And yeah, he brings size, speed, and strength...when he wants to.

23 years old. C'mon man.

These are the growing pains everyone says they can deal with and yet when a Rangers player goes through them people want to trade them

 

[haveandare]

A guys in a bad stretch, so all the armchair coaches pile on him, start dissecting his game and coming to the conclusion that every part of it is flawled, he's clueless, can't play, has no motivation. Trade him now blah blah blah.

You'll have to excuse me if I don't put any stock at all in this knee jerk garbage.

I look forward to him getting hot again and having everyone fawn over him. This place is a waste when anything is going wrong.

 

[LeetchisGod]

I think the frustration stems from the fact that there have been games where Kreider is the most dominant player on the ice. Unfortunately it's far too infrequent.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

23 years old. C'mon man.

These are the growing pains everyone says they can deal with and yet when a Rangers player goes through them people want to trade them

Being engaged in the game is not really a growing pain - it should be standard.

 

[Inferno]

hes playing passive.

when kreider is passive, hes a mediocre player. when hes aggressive hes damn good. when he crosses the line, hes useless again.

he needs to learn to walk that line.

 

[NYR Viper]

Being engaged in the game is not really a growing pain - it should be standard.

Even the best players in the world go through stretches where they don't look good. With Kreider, he has to walk a fine line in order to play well. He hasn't been close enough to the line. It's not that he isn't trying.

 

[NY Lito]

Even the best players in the world go through stretches where they don't look good. With Kreider, he has to walk a fine line in order to play well. He hasn't been close enough to the line. It's not that he isn't trying.

I don't understand how/why Kreider is immune to criticism for many people here. If any other Ranger forward were playing like Kreids for the past few weeks they'd be getting heavily critiqued and rightfully so.

But for Kreids? It's not that he isn't trying or isn't playing up to par, it's that he's still learning/inexperienced/going through a rough patch/whatever the excuse of the week is.

He's the anti-John Moore of this board.

 

[chosen]

I don't understand how/why Kreider is immune to criticism for many people here. If any other Ranger forward were playing like Kreids for the past few weeks they'd be getting heavily critiqued and rightfully so.

But for Kreids? It's not that he isn't trying or isn't playing up to par, it's that he's still learning/inexperienced/going through a rough patch/whatever the excuse of the week is.

He's the anti-John Moore of this board.

He is near-immune because he is big, physical, and fast. Results don't matter in some cases.

 

[NY Lito]

Being engaged in the game is not really a growing pain - it should be standard.

I'm in agreement, 100%.

 

[NY Lito]

He is near-immune because he is big, physical, and fast. Results don't matter in some cases.

And how often does he make a difference with his size and speed?

 

[JohnC]

Lol Chris Kreider's immune to criticism? Am I thinking of the same player as everyone else or am I on the wrong board?

 

[Raspewtin]

He is near-immune because he is big, physical, and fast. Results don't matter in some cases.

What?

Have you read this thread? People are calling to trade him.....

 

[Captain Lindy]

I don't understand how/why Kreider is immune to criticism for many people here. If any other Ranger forward were playing like Kreids for the past few weeks they'd be getting heavily critiqued and rightfully so.

But for Kreids? It's not that he isn't trying or isn't playing up to par, it's that he's still learning/inexperienced/going through a rough patch/whatever the excuse of the week is.

He's the anti-John Moore of this board.

Lundqvist is the guy who is immune from criticism to too many.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Even the best players in the world go through stretches where they don't look good. With Kreider, he has to walk a fine line in order to play well. He hasn't been close enough to the line. It's not that he isn't trying.

Its one thing to go through a slump when it comes to point production. My issue is that Kreider is prone to long stretches of being a ghost out there.

 

[JohnC]

What?

Have you read this thread? People are calling to trade him.....

He was frequently called a bust during the one year period after the 2012 playoffs in the AHL up until his final call up last season. This place is just funny sometimes.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

He was frequently called a bust during the one year period after the 2012 playoffs in the AHL up until his final call up last season. This place is just funny sometimes.

Thats a load of crap. I never saw him called a bust.

I did see a lot of criticism regarding his actual play vs. the absurd expectations placed on him (like perennial 30/30 guy out of the gate).

 

[Raspewtin]

He was frequently called a bust during the one year period after the 2012 playoffs in the AHL up until his final call up last season. This place is just funny sometimes.

And now people want to trade him

Jesus christ. It's like no young player has ever struggled.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Lundqvist is the guy who is immune from criticism to too many.

Being a future Hall of Famer who has carried the team for a decade earns that.

 

[NY Lito]

Thats a load of crap. I never saw him called a bust.

I did see a lot of criticism regarding his actual play vs. the absurd expectations placed on him (like perennial 30/30 guy out of the gate).

Yup. People like to rewrite history to fit their narrative.