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Nothing to do with the center, its his consistency. Right now he is playing with a ton of confidence and finally using his speed.
He goes in spurts a few times a season, hopefully he can continue it.
HatTrick Swayze
Just Be Nice
It's all in his head. That should be blatantly obvious.
When it's crunch time, he (typically) turns up the volume. That is both great and infuriating.
When it's crunch time, he (typically) turns up the volume. That is both great and infuriating.
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That's fair. But again, he is still very young. He can still find a way to be in sync over the coarse of a regular season.
Again, this is NOT a kid you want blossoming on the other team.
Bluenote13
Believe In Henke
Bluenote13
Believe In Henke
Power forwards in the nhl, it's rare any two players worth a damn are exactly alike anyway. More often than not characteristics are being compared, that should not imply the players are exact replicas.
And I'm not comparing their style, more their roles.
Raspewtin
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Backes is a defensively deployed center while Kreider plays (in theory) a simple straight line game. Backes' game is a lot more refined than Kreider's and Kreider has known what he needs to do to generate offense since he was a rookie.
Bluenote13
Believe In Henke
Yeah I'm not comparing them right now, Backes was a winger early on, I'm comparing them at 24 years old, do not see what I'm doing?
NikC
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It's not "talk" that neutered his game but most likely GMs complaining about him. You don't think the babies in Montreal didn't complain after he took out price? They wanted a police investigation when Chara nailed Pacioretty...
Chris has been spoken to. I'm not saying this absolve him in any way, but asking a player to play differently when he is successful at one style has affected his game.
Kreider is engaged when it counts the most.
Mac n Gs
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Weren't people comparing Kreider to Knuble a couple of months back? Kreider is vastly outscoring him at the current age, since Knuble didn't really start scoring until he was 28/29. I think silverfish made a comparison scoring wise to John LeClair, and so far it looks pretty accurate.
I highly doubt he'll turn into a 80-90 point winger in his prime, but he could easily be a 65-70 point player if he can consistently play how he has been recently. This is the Kreider we all expect to see, the one who hustles, initiates contact, and torches defenders with size and speed.
I highly doubt he'll turn into a 80-90 point winger in his prime, but he could easily be a 65-70 point player if he can consistently play how he has been recently. This is the Kreider we all expect to see, the one who hustles, initiates contact, and torches defenders with size and speed.
I'd like to see Kreider come in on the right side a little more. I've noticed he's going there a little more regularly with Zucc on the other wing, since he can play both sides too. In his last 10 games, or so, he's had a 1 timer goal (maybe 2) from that RW slot and when he's driving the net, he's cutting to the center of the ice on his forehand, rather than backhand. I'm not saying that he still shouldn't go to his bread and butter on the left side, but adding more of that into his repertoire can make him that much more dangerous. I think his confidence in Zucc's hockey IQ and creativity definitely helps him to open up his game more.
surf
Wheres the Reggae?
As we all know CK is just scratching the surface I think his ceiling is 30-30 and we take that all day with that speed and hopefully more physicality . He needs to take the next step and with that hopefully the consistency will follow. In no way do we trade this guy he is a top 6'er on every team in the league and only 24
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this is where expectations get dangerous. this does not mean what it meant even a couple seasons ago. this is the dead puck era. people have been underrating the fact that in a clearly down year personally Krieder has matched his scoring rate from a season ago while the league continues to get more difficult to score in. a 45 point winger with Kreider's size and speed is a very valuable asset.
Mac n Gs
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Oh I know that it's an unrealistic expectation because Kreider has a penchant to have cold streaks that span 10-15 games. I was projecting that number based on him playing how he has played recently on a consistent basis.
In a down year, the kid still scored. Yes, he does need to take a step forward and become a 25-30 goal scorer. But that is well within the realm of possibility.
These kind of kids do not grow on trees.
Mac n Gs
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To be fair, he probably would have at least eclipsed the 25 goal plateau this season if he got some bounces at the beginning of the year. He was generating a lot of quality scoring chances, but he was getting the goals.
My only gripe is him not using his size and speed more often. I'm not expecting him to be a freight train that runs through people like they're tissue paper, but I do expect him to be more active down low in the corners and around the net. Miller upped his physicality and assertiveness around the halfway point this season and everything else started falling into place for him.
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In 1987-88, they had DeBlois (1977), Duguay (1977), Patrick (1981), Dahlen (1985) and Leetch (1986) on the team
In 1988-89, they had DeBlois, Patrick, Dahlen, Leetch, plus Jayson More (1987)
Ghost of jas
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They also currently have 5 20-goal scorers, all in their top 6, under the age of 28, three of which, Stepan Kreider and Miller are franchise-draftees, while another, Zucc, is a non-drafted free agent.
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