we can all agree he's had a tough year but with 20 or so games left he probably will end up with 18-20 goals which isn't bad for an obvious down year. with staal coming he could slot down to the 3rd line and will be productive in the playoffs like he's been the last two playoff seasons.
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absolutely rooting hard for CK. still holding out hope he can be that homegrown power forward that gives other teams fits.
Edge
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It's funny, I was thinking that the other day. Despite the inconsistencies and prolonged periods of nothingness, CK finishing with 20 goals and 40 points is very much within the realm of possibilities.
The thing with Kreider is exactly what it was for Miller over the past two years - assertion and consistency.
I still believe he was 30 goal potential - but it will not happen without the assertion and consistency components.
I don't know - I'm still holding out for him.
offdacrossbar
misfit fanboy
i dont think he's got 30 goal hands nor head. he just hasn't shown me enough with his shot nor the ability to be in position to use his shot.
still seems like he's fighting the game too much by over thinking or just not knowing what to do and when to do it.
most troubling, thats the same thing that was said when he was drafted.
But it still is only his 3rd full year. And in what is a very poor one for him, he is still within striking distance of 20.
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I wouldn't describe this as a particularly poor year for Kreider. Not scoring but his process has been very good. That's both a positive and negative indictment of him.
If he shows up again in the playoffs and scores big goals I won't mind ck "just" scoring 20-25 goals during regular season. I'm well aware he has to improve his consistency tho
PlamsUnlimited
Big Church Bells
I think we are frustrated with his decision making most. I dont care if he doesn't get to 25 goals, but I question shooting and passing decisions. Mainly when rushing the zone.
HockeyBasedNYC
Feeling it
should've traded Kreider. He annoys me to no end. He's got such great skills and strength but he doesnt use it. Its the extra step and half he refuses to take through the opponents. When he does that he gets or keeps control of the puck but he doesnt do it consistently enough. Its a waste.
HatTrick Swayze
Just Be Nice
Kreider looks so off to me. He looks like he is going through the "mid-20s slump" I saw so many of my friends go through around 24-26. Who knows.
I could see this being the time to sell high, and I could also see him being a 25-25 force at 27. It's a really tough call. Gut says they move him this summer.
Playoff time is coming. Kreider will wake up. It will raise his value for the next contract and for a trade.
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No doubt CK will raise his game, but don't see why using this as leverage to trade him is a good thing.
I get it that you can't wait forever, but a 2 yr contact should be the objective. Rangers have no one with his skill set in the system.
A fan base who's team is so bereft of talent in the system is awfully eager to trade him away.
These same people think they have the patience for a rebuild
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Because a good playoff run does nothing to mitigate the stretches of regular season where he's invisible (or visible for the wrong reasons). What a good playoff run does do is make him more expensive to resign, while simultaneously inflating his trade value. We don't have the cap space, but could use an influx of young talent that Kreider may be able to bring back in a trade.
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Kreider is 24. It's his second year with the team posting 17g and 21g not to mention his playoffs. ..
He needs to be vanquished after 1 subpar season?
I'll never understand this mindset .
Isn't Krieder himself considered young talent?
Has no one ever seen a young player regress in their first few years in the league? think the Flames were in a hurry to unload Iginla when it happened to him?
I also think Kreider will show his value once the post season rolls around but watching him out there this regular season is very concerning. It's probably been said ad nauseam but with his size and speed he should be bulldozing everything in sight.
The man is an Abrams tank but he plays like a goddamn razor scooter most of the time.
The man is an Abrams tank but he plays like a goddamn razor scooter most of the time.
aufheben
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You mean in his second season, when he was 20? Because when he was Kreider's age he led the league in goals and points.
Kreider's PPG stats in the playoffs are similar to his regular season PPG stats.
There are a lot of good things to like about a home grown top 6 NHL forward. He may never turn into that 30 goal first line winger but he is a valuable player
Kreider never was a big time point producer in college, the AHL and now in his early career in the NHL. The expectation were set very high due to his size and speed.
Kreider is a solid NHL player who can play on any NHL team's top 6.
There are a lot of good things to like about a home grown top 6 NHL forward. He may never turn into that 30 goal first line winger but he is a valuable player
Kreider never was a big time point producer in college, the AHL and now in his early career in the NHL. The expectation were set very high due to his size and speed.
Kreider is a solid NHL player who can play on any NHL team's top 6.
Inferno
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i think kreider has too many good aspects to just walk away from him. one good thing about this season is hes certainly depressing the contract hes going to get.
Edge
Kris King's Ghost
The great irony is that despite the frustration and maddening inconsistency - he's only slightly below his (brief) career NHL averages and 20 goals and 40 points isn't a far fetched notion.
The big things are consistency and being a force when the points aren't coming, and whether or not he is what he is or has another notch he can reach.
The big things are consistency and being a force when the points aren't coming, and whether or not he is what he is or has another notch he can reach.
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I just don't understand why this season he seems reluctant to attempt to use his speed.
Everytime the puck gets to him he seems like option A is for him to slow down, look around to make a pass or peel off and hit a trailer or dump it down low. His option A should be to skate as hard as he can and beat people to the front of the net.
Everytime the puck gets to him he seems like option A is for him to slow down, look around to make a pass or peel off and hit a trailer or dump it down low. His option A should be to skate as hard as he can and beat people to the front of the net.
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