TSN: Chris Johnston: at this point It's expected Jacob Chychrun will be moved

[Roomba With a Bauer]

That’s an appealing offer for sure. Assuming you mean the 2022 1st.

Yeah, unprotected.

 

[rt]

Yeah, unprotected.

I suspect that would make Yotes brass stop and think.

 

[violaswallet]

Only that they “technically” met it. Call that Tippett (young roster player with former top prospect pedigree), Denisenko/Samoskevich (a “top” prospect with former 1st round pedigree) and a 1st (albeit super late and not until 2023).

Sure, that “technically” meets the price, but it also sucks for Arizona and they’d never do it (I hope) because it’s a huge ripoff. But all three are legitimate assets that “technically” qualify.

Was it confirmed that the offer was Florida btw? This makes the most sense: meeting the off explicitly but probably not the best

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

I suspect that would make Yotes brass stop and think.

The best the Wings can do is only like a 5% shot at the top pick, so don't get too excited.

I would contemplate making part of the trade conditional, so that if the Wings win the lottery, Soderblom and Zadina fall out of the deal. That would be interesting. It would be Chychrun for 1OA and a second.

Chychrun's injury might change the math, though.

 

[rt]

Was it confirmed that the offer was Florida btw? This makes the most sense: meeting the off explicitly but probably not the best

Nope. I just made that up.

 

[violaswallet]

Nope. I just made that up.

Like your namesake

 

[WTFMAN99]

Super injury prone.

 

[rt]

Super injury prone.

Did you catch the play? It happens.

 

[Buck Dancer]

If the Devils are in on Chychrun, it'll happen this summer because if Slafkovsky or Jiricek are still on the board, I don't see them moving their pick for a guy that plays a position we're loaded at.

L. Hughes is already a lock to be a part of our top #4 in the non too distant future and Siegenthaler is our best shutdown dman, so he'd get relegated to the 3rd pairing. We have Hamilton as our #1 on the right side and a bunch of question marks after that in Severson who's a pending UFA next summer and PK, who's not coming back next year.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Did you catch the play? It happens.

Not discounting that fluke injuries happen but the guy has never been able to complete a season;

 

[rt]

Not discounting that fluke injuries happen but the guy has never been able to complete a season;

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I know we've moved on, and all, but there was a pretty big thing that happened across the planet over the last couple of years. Displaying a raw count, year over year, to eyes accustomed to seeing numbers closer to 82 strikes me a touch disingenuous, honestly.

He's had some bad luck with injuries and illness. I don't believe he's got some genetic predisposition to weakening ligaments or bones. He's okay.

You can stop chalking it up to misfortune when you start seeing specific health issues referred to as chronic or degenerative. When a player injures and re-injures the same area over and over again, that's concerning. Think Marke Svatos' (RIP) shoulder or guys witch concussion issues. When a player like Antti Raanta can't ever seem to be in the line-up because he's constantly held out by very minor injuries, that's also concerning. Chychrun has had several major injuries related to specific hockey plays, that caused damage requiring surgical repair to different areas of his body. One-offs. And also COVID. It's not the same. Unless you believe in curses or voodoo.

 

[Boxscore]

How bad is Chychrun's injury? If a trade was imminent, why even play him? This is the risk of waiting and waiting and waiting to make a trade.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

How bad is Chychrun's injury? If a trade was imminent, why even play him? This is the risk of waiting and waiting and waiting to make a trade.

While it's not irrelevant he is not a rental and you aren't moving much in terms of roster player to acquire here. The injury won't have that much effect on trade negotiations, if it's something as serious as season ending talks will just die until the summer then pick up again

 

[rt]

How bad is Chychrun's injury? If a trade was imminent, why even play him? This is the risk of waiting and waiting and waiting to make a trade.

We’ll know tomorrow when the MRI is back.

 

[Dynamite Time]

Not discounting that fluke injuries happen but the guy has never been able to complete a season;

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The 20-21 season was only a 56 game season so technically he has. Also the Coyotes played 70 games in 19-20 and he missed only 7 of them.

 

[gstommylee]

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Likely closer to the former than the latter. In Chychrun's previous injuries, he usually ends up returning faster than expected. I'm thinking teams will still be looking to add him at the deadline.

 

[bsu]

Injury sucks... bad timing.

 

[gstommylee]

Likely closer to the former than the latter. In Chychrun's previous injuries, he usually ends up returning faster than expected. I'm thinking teams will still be looking to add him at the deadline.

Even so but the value for him dropped though.

 

[JKG33]

Even so but the value for him dropped though.

Nah. He's not a rental and this ain't a long term injury. 4 weeks means shit all when he's under contract for a few more years

 

[gstommylee]

Nah. He's not a rental and this ain't a long term injury. 4 weeks means shit all when he's under contract for a few more years

He's not getting what the yotes think they'll get out of him and this isn't helping. An injury will still somewhat hurt the value even if he ends up being traded anyways.

 

[JKG33]

He's not getting what the yotes think they'll get out of him and this isn't helping. An injury will still somewhat hurt the value even if he ends up being traded anyways.

He's a legit top pairing d, young, and signed for a few more years at a great AAV. He's the most valuable asset on the trade market in a long time.

Sure there have been better players, but those have been guys in their UFA years or Eichel who had a massive AAV which limited teams. 90% of the league should be interested in Chychrun

 

[1989]

He's a legit top pairing d, young, and signed for a few more years at a great AAV. He's the most valuable asset on the trade market in a long time.

Sure there have been better players, but those have been guys in their UFA years or Eichel who had a massive AAV which limited teams. 90% of the league should be interested in Chychrun

IDK, even if that's true I think he will return less than expected value.

 

[gstommylee]

He's a legit top pairing d, young, and signed for a few more years at a great AAV. He's the most valuable asset on the trade market in a long time.

Sure there have been better players, but those have been guys in their UFA years or Eichel who had a massive AAV which limited teams. 90% of the league should be interested in Chychrun

90% of the league? so 29 teams would suddenly give-in what arizona is asking for just for him? I don't think so...

 

[paulhiggins]

2-4 weeks could easily turn into 2-4 months.