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Some interesting comments from Ryan Kesler today about the Ducks search for a new head coach.

Kesler: Ducks need a coach able to strategize on the fly

Ryan Kesler seems to have a feel for the what the Anaheim Ducks need in a new bench boss.

With the club still looking for a head coach following the firing of Bruce Boudreau, and with Randy Carlyle reportedly deep in the mix, Kesler believes the Ducks need someone who can make in-game adjustments and keep the players on their toes.

"We just need a good bench coach, a coach that does things on the fly and makes changes during the game and not just between periods," Kesler told Ben Kuzma of The Province. "We need a coach that holds everybody accountable - not just certain guys. We need a coach to come in and just be a good motivator and do what a coach does.

"The biggest thing is we need a good bench coach for strategies."

Kesler played for Carlyle as a member of the AHL's Manitoba Moose, and seems to slot him favorably based on the aforementioned criteria.

"He was a very good bench coach and very detailed," Kesler said. "We worked on faceoff plays every practice and on the power play every practice - things that you really need to work on everyday."


Source: http://www.thescore.com/news/1037142
 


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Carlyle is where Puck Possession goes to die.

I hope he is not hired. Do I think they need a hard ass coach, yes, but not one with no creativity.
 
Some interesting comments from Ryan Kesler today about the Ducks search for a new head coach.

Kesler: Ducks need a coach able to strategize on the fly

Ryan Kesler seems to have a feel for the what the Anaheim Ducks need in a new bench boss.

With the club still looking for a head coach following the firing of Bruce Boudreau, and with Randy Carlyle reportedly deep in the mix, Kesler believes the Ducks need someone who can make in-game adjustments and keep the players on their toes.

"We just need a good bench coach, a coach that does things on the fly and makes changes during the game and not just between periods," Kesler told Ben Kuzma of The Province. "We need a coach that holds everybody accountable - not just certain guys. We need a coach to come in and just be a good motivator and do what a coach does.

"The biggest thing is we need a good bench coach for strategies."

Kesler played for Carlyle as a member of the AHL's Manitoba Moose, and seems to slot him favorably based on the aforementioned criteria.

"He was a very good bench coach and very detailed," Kesler said. "We worked on faceoff plays every practice and on the power play every practice - things that you really need to work on everyday."


Source: http://www.thescore.com/news/1037142

I agree with King Kesler. We need a good bench coach who can adjust on the fly to the changes being made by the other team. If BB could have done that, he'd probably still be in WSH with at least 2 cups under his belt.
 
I agree with King Kesler. We need a good bench coach who can adjust on the fly to the changes being made by the other team. If BB could have done that, he'd probably still be in WSH with at least 2 cups under his belt.
No. This year was the most complete team Caps had, still managed to choke.
 
Some interesting comments from Ryan Kesler today about the Ducks search for a new head coach.

Kesler: Ducks need a coach able to strategize on the fly

Ryan Kesler seems to have a feel for the what the Anaheim Ducks need in a new bench boss.

With the club still looking for a head coach following the firing of Bruce Boudreau, and with Randy Carlyle reportedly deep in the mix, Kesler believes the Ducks need someone who can make in-game adjustments and keep the players on their toes.

"We just need a good bench coach, a coach that does things on the fly and makes changes during the game and not just between periods," Kesler told Ben Kuzma of The Province. "We need a coach that holds everybody accountable - not just certain guys. We need a coach to come in and just be a good motivator and do what a coach does.

"The biggest thing is we need a good bench coach for strategies."

Kesler played for Carlyle as a member of the AHL's Manitoba Moose, and seems to slot him favorably based on the aforementioned criteria.

"He was a very good bench coach and very detailed," Kesler said. "We worked on faceoff plays every practice and on the power play every practice - things that you really need to work on everyday."


Source: http://www.thescore.com/news/1037142

That would seem to rule RC out then. His coaching style was "run my north and south system or else", combined with such reflexive line matching that the other coach could actually control the game by swapping lines to whoever he wanted out on the ice. Not seeing it.
 
I agree 100% with Kesler's comments. We need somebody who can adapt mid game, manage a bench effectively and not wait until it's too late to start making adjustments.

In '08 they still had the 4th best record in the league in spite of those issues.

In '11 the Anaheim top 6 was an entire magnitude of order better than their Nashville counterparts, and the bottom 6 was a wash at best. That team was simply not very good by comparison, and was a notorious St. Louis/San Jose level group of choke artists.

Just because those two teams weren't on the level of the '07 team doesn't mean that the other teams weren't worse. Those were upsets. Not massive world beating upsets, but it's disingenuous to say that BB losing to good teams is choking while RC losing to worse teams is somehow not. Especially when RC couldn't even get those series to 7 games.

Out bottom 6 was not a wash with Nashville's. Our bottom 6 was (for the most part) Beleskey, McMillan, Bonino, Marchant, Parros and Ruutu. They combined for 21 goals that year. McMillan had 11 of them. Other guys who saw time were Palmieri who was 20, Sexton who was awful and Winchester who forgot how to play hockey after the Blues trade.

And while the Ducks top 6 forwards were better the Preds had a significantly better blueline and goalie. Those two areas were not even close.

I don't even know why I'm bothering because I don't want Carlyle back. But I think he did a much better job in his time here that many are insinuating.
 
Some interesting comments from Ryan Kesler today about the Ducks search for a new head coach.

Kesler: Ducks need a coach able to strategize on the fly

Ryan Kesler seems to have a feel for the what the Anaheim Ducks need in a new bench boss.

With the club still looking for a head coach following the firing of Bruce Boudreau, and with Randy Carlyle reportedly deep in the mix, Kesler believes the Ducks need someone who can make in-game adjustments and keep the players on their toes.

"We just need a good bench coach, a coach that does things on the fly and makes changes during the game and not just between periods," Kesler told Ben Kuzma of The Province. "We need a coach that holds everybody accountable - not just certain guys. We need a coach to come in and just be a good motivator and do what a coach does.

"The biggest thing is we need a good bench coach for strategies."

Kesler played for Carlyle as a member of the AHL's Manitoba Moose, and seems to slot him favorably based on the aforementioned criteria.

"He was a very good bench coach and very detailed," Kesler said. "We worked on faceoff plays every practice and on the power play every practice - things that you really need to work on everyday."


Source: http://www.thescore.com/news/1037142

A-****ing-MEN, Kes.
 
That's funny.

As a Kings fan, I remember loving 2008 as the Selanne/S. Nieds issue and the trade of Andy Mac really hurt the first half of the season but I think you guys had the best record in the 2nd half of the season and looked prime to once again do damage.

The Dallas series was most definitely an upset but nothing really major. Dallas was pretty good that year and made it to the WCF.

2011 Ducks weren't that good and were pretty similar to Nashville. You could throw a blanket over seeds #4-8 actually and there isn't much separating them at all. It feels like a choke simply because of blowing Game 5 in Anaheim with the tying goal coming with under a minute left and then Smithson of all people scoring the GWG in OT.

The '08 team was worlds better than '11 and were defending champs so it felt like more of a shock but it really wasn't when you take a closer look at it. If anything could be labeled a choke, it would be blowing Game 5 against Nashville but you've got Ray Emery in net and Andreas Lilja on the team so you can't be too harsh.

Good post. Agree with most of it.
 
Totally agree with the Kesler comments although I find it just bizarre that he somehow thinks Carlyle fits that bill. I've rarely seen a coach so locked into doing things one single way no matter what
 
I'll take Kesler's word. He certainly knows a hell of a lot more about Randy Carlyle than I do or anyone else here
 
That would seem to rule RC out then. His coaching style was "run my north and south system or else", combined with such reflexive line matching that the other coach could actually control the game by swapping lines to whoever he wanted out on the ice. Not seeing it.


Kesler played for Carlyle as a member of the AHL's Manitoba Moose, and seems to slot him favorably based on the aforementioned criteria.

"He was a very good bench coach and very detailed," Kesler said. "We worked on faceoff plays every practice and on the power play every practice - things that you really need to work on everyday
 
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Reading between the lines I'll say Kesler just wants somebody to come in and kick Getzlaf in the ass, maybe Perry too. Everybody seems to keep overlooking this quote..."We need a coach that holds everybody accountable - not just certain guys." You don't say that because the coach is letting some fourth liners slide.
 
Kesler played for Carlyle as a member of the AHL's Manitoba Moose, and seems to slot him favorably based on the aforementioned criteria.

"He was a very good bench coach and very detailed," Kesler said. "We worked on faceoff plays every practice and on the power play every practice - things that you really need to work on everyday

That says he's a stern taskmaster. In a minor league. Over a decade ago. It says nothing about his ability to adapt in-game in the NHL, which we have seen is kinda limited. "Good at making in-game adjustments" is not something anyone ever says about him. "Rigid obedience to my system is required if you don't want to be benched" is what you can say about him.

As far as the busting everyone's ass, yeah, we knew that. It's why the players eventually quit on him - all taskmaster coaches have a shelf-life before the players tune them out and quit playing for them, and are replaced by a player's coach. Just like all player's coaches eventually get taken advantage of by the players and are replaced by a taskmaster.
 
Anyone wanting in-game adjustments should look far, far away from Carlyle. Also, if Carlyle ticked most of the checkboxes Kesler mentiones, multiple coaching vacancies wouldn't have passed him by since Jan 2015.
 
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