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I like Mike Yeo and I think he's a solid coach, but I'm not sure we fit into his system. For one, Suter was getting a **** ton of minutes, and we don't have a clear-cut #1 (Lindholm is getting close). He also seemed to have a bias towards veteran players. I could never understand why Niederreiter wasn't used more.

That being said, I wouldn't be pissed if he were hired, but I would prefer Green/Walrus.
 
Eddie Shack said:
Be careful that idea doesn't backfire on you. You all could find yourselves asking permission to speak with him soon. ;)
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The Kings? Not impossible, but I can't see DL wanting Eakins, even if Sutter does decide to call it quits. If Sutter DOES decide not to re-up with the Kings, I can completely see him doing for the Ducks what he did for them in terms of finding the pieces that work together -- so I'm hoping if he doesn't sign, it's to go back to Viking, I'll be totally honest :) But if the Ducks could land him, it would be a solid solid hire, absolutely.
 
My concern with Green is that he'd come in as a rookie (NHL) coach, and he'd be asked to deal with the egos of someone like Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler.

Sometimes the coach isn't the most important person in that locker room.
 
HansH said:
The Kings? Not impossible, but I can't see DL wanting Eakins, even if Sutter does decide to call it quits. If Sutter DOES decide not to re-up with the Kings, I can completely see him doing for the Ducks what he did for them in terms of finding the pieces that work together -- so I'm hoping if he doesn't sign, it's to go back to Viking, I'll be totally honest :) But if the Ducks could land him, it would be a solid solid hire, absolutely.
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Yeah, I was just mainly pointing out that if Sutter leaves you will be sweating bullets as well, as to any replacement. ;)

I do find it odd that a coach who has had success and would appear to enjoy where he is, would consider leaving just because he may feel the team can't be as good going forward. It's not like he can just always coach a perennial contender. Or even if anybody can actually pick who future contenders will be.
 
Sojourn said:
My concern with Green is that he'd come in as a rookie (NHL) coach, and he'd be asked to deal with the egos of someone like Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler.

Sometimes the coach isn't the most important person in that locker room.
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I think this is the #1 reason why Green would be a poor fit at this point in time. Fresh blood (new to the NHL) works better when there aren't high expectations and a must win environment. Regardless of any of our opinions of how the team will do, you know management is still expecting a cup worthy effort while paying those huge salaries. It's hard to be a brand new coach given our situation with reliance on vets who have been coming up short for a while. A new (to the NHL) coach has no street cred to kick ass relative to elite players.
 
Dryish said:
The fact that he managed to completely misuse several young talents refusing to coach to their strengths (Haula, Granlund, Niederreiter & Coyle to lesser extents), got outcoached so many times that his star players lost respect for him, and has a reputation as a guy who loses faith and resorts to primitive yelling to get his desire across when that happens?

I don't see him as bad as some of these other comments make him out to be. He did manage to drag Wild to the playoffs on consecutive years when they really should not have made it that far, and the team actually fought some decent series (barring the Hawks sweep last year). But he still seems... subpar, I believe is the right expression. Undesirable.
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Fair enough, I will respond to a couple of misnomers.

The only ones that really got misused are Nino and Haula, in that they were his whipping boys. Coyle and Granlund got all the minutes and oppurtunities, probably more so then they should have. He did favor veterans on the PP, but not so much 5v5. And was most pronounced with Suter playing all the PP minutes in the world over Dumba/Spurgeon.

As far as being outcoached, I somewhat disagree. He beat the division winners in the first round of the playoffs twice, with inferior talent both times. He got a lot out of what talent the Wild had. He was generally very good at matching lines, and getting the matchup he wanted. He lost to the Hawks int he playoffs 3 times. Last time I checked, lots of teams have.

As far as "primative yelling", it's amazing how thats the rep he has because he had one outburst (that worked) in 4 years. The only reason it was news, is because it was so out of character for him. He's an extremely even keeled and calm coach.
 
Eddie Shack said:
I think this is the #1 reason why Green would be a poor fit at this point in time. Fresh blood (new to the NHL) works better when there aren't high expectations and a must win environment. Regardless of any of our opinions of how the team will do, you know management is still expecting a cup worthy effort while paying those huge salaries. It's hard to be a brand new coach given our situation with reliance on vets who have been coming up short for a while. A new (to the NHL) coach has no street cred to kick ass relative to elite players.
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Mike Sullivan hasn't had a problem
 
Sojourn said:
My concern with Green is that he'd come in as a rookie (NHL) coach, and he'd be asked to deal with the egos of someone like Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler.

Sometimes the coach isn't the most important person in that locker room.
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Perhaps there's an argument to be made in favor of hiring a rookie head coach when the core is as entrenched as our's is. Getzlaf and Perry have more or less been running the show since 07-08, the year following our SC, and in that time they've seen two head coaches get fired. Does anyone really think they are not next on the chopping block, notwithstanding their respective NMCs?

It's do or die time for Getzlaf and Perry. I have no issue with GMBM giving the Twins a little more slack on the leash in the form of a green head coach (see what I did there? :naughty:) so long as they know it's their final hoorah. Pairing an older core with a younger coach could bring out the best qualities of both parties (notably, experience and urgency with novel ideas and clean slates).

Or it could be a complete dumpster fire, which frankly could be equally as entertaining.
 
ThatGuy22 said:
Fair enough, I will respond to a couple of misnomers.

The only ones that really got misused are Nino and Haula, in that they were his whipping boys. Coyle and Granlund got all the minutes and oppurtunities, probably more so then they should have. He did favor veterans on the PP, but not so much 5v5. And was most pronounced with Suter playing all the PP minutes in the world over Dumba/Spurgeon.

As far as being outcoached, I somewhat disagree. He beat the division winners in the first round of the playoffs twice, with inferior talent both times. He got a lot out of what talent the Wild had. He was generally very good at matching lines, and getting the matchup he wanted. He lost to the Hawks int he playoffs 3 times. Last time I checked, lots of teams have.

As far as "primative yelling", it's amazing how thats the rep he has because he had one outburst (that worked) in 4 years. The only reason it was news, is because it was so out of character for him. He's an extremely even keeled and calm coach.
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I appreciate the insight.
 
Dmang714 said:
Mike Sullivan hasn't had a problem
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In fairness, he isn't a rookie, but two seasons a decade ago, he might as well be. Dan Bylsma obviously did work, though.

Don't buy that being a rookie would necessarily hurt, or that it can't work on a win-now team. As someone else said, rather have him than someone you know is mediocre.
 
If I'm Murray and I pick Green and he fails, then I'm thinking I probably get the axe for picking a rookie coach.

If I pick someone like Sutter and he fails, then I get blamed for the roster not being good enough and paying a high priced coach and not having success... then I definitely get the axe.

But if I pick someone like Yeo, who is going to be more affordable but seasoned, then maybe my job is safe.
 
caliamad said:
If I'm Murray and I pick Green and he fails, then I'm thinking I probably get the axe for picking a rookie coach.

If I pick someone like Sutter and he fails, then I get blamed for the roster not being good enough and paying a high priced coach and not having success... then I definitely get the axe.

But if I pick someone like Yeo, who is going to be more affordable but seasoned, then maybe my job is safe.
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I'm not sure there is a choice for Murray that doesn't potentially put his job on the line.

If his choice fails, regardless of who it is, Murray is at risk. He's the one who makes that decision, and he was the one who axed the most successful coach in Anaheim's history. At least in terms of record, if not Stanley Cups. Maybe the upper management and ownership would be willing to let it slide, but ultimately he's made his bed here. It's on him. It's even more on him if he decides to make some bigger roster moves in an attempt to shake things up.

The same is true if he doesn't fire Boudreau, or make any significant changes. I don't think Murray is safe right now.
 
Tecumseh said:
I'd rather take my chances with fresh blood than settle for a mediocre coach like Yeo
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New to the boards so please don't jump down my throat. But anyway, has Selanne been contacted? Scotty Nieds? Marchant? If we're going fresh blood. I would prefer a previous player who was on our cup team. Just an opinion
 
RamsNducks said:
New to the boards so please don't jump down my throat. But anyway, has Selanne been contacted? Scotty Nieds? Marchant? If we're going fresh blood. I would prefer a previous player who was on our cup team. Just an opinion
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There is no evidence they'd make good coaches. Even if they are new to NHL coaching, you'd still want someone who has experience coaching at a high level. Someone who has worked their way up.

Bylsma, for example, retired and then spent a couple of years in the AHL, and the NHL, in an assistant role, before being a head coach in the AHL. It was a good 4-5 years before he took on a head coaching job in the NHL.
 
RamsNducks said:
New to the boards so please don't jump down my throat. But anyway, has Selanne been contacted? Scotty Nieds? Marchant? If we're going fresh blood. I would prefer a previous player who was on our cup team. Just an opinion
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It seems Green getting a coaching jobis imminent whether it be this year or within a few years. He's on the path and has been offered an asisstant coaching job before, hiring a former player who hasn't taken the first step would be... it's not happening.
 
RamsNducks said:
New to the boards so please don't jump down my throat. But anyway, has Selanne been contacted? Scotty Nieds? Marchant? If we're going fresh blood. I would prefer a previous player who was on our cup team. Just an opinion
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The best players often make the worst coaches. None of those guys have any experience either.
 
Paul4587 said:
The best players often make the worst coaches. None of those guys have any experience either.
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I guess Scotty has a bit, but I don't think he's ever been on the bench as one. I bet he'd make a good coach if he wanted to be one. Marchant seems like the type who could've been, but his trajectory seems to be in management. Teemu obviously hasn't done anything since retirement, and he also would probably not even make a good coach.
 
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