OMG67
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Interesting. That will make a big difference for recruiting provided the athletic programs are fine with doling out that many.
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I think that is a dramatic statement by Friedman. USports Hockey may be competitive for the players but it isn’t a spectator sport. The average attendance is low and there is not significant media presence of any kind. All that will happen is the quality will go down and weaker hockey players will play. It’s not like the attendance will suffer.
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USHL might better just become a part of the CHL here soon.
I don't think it will end well for the USHL and the BCHL for that matter after the vote happens.
I don't think it will end well for the USHL and the BCHL for that matter after the vote happens.
I would agree. The Windsor Lancers play in a 500 seat recreational arena. Obviously it isn't big business and a form of hockey but this Friedman doesn't need to be clutching pearls on this.
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The quality of the hockey will go down undoubtedly but does it matter? Decisions are made for Junior/Midget hockey and competitiveness etc. No one really cares. We are talking about fringe leagues that exist more for competitive recreation.
Interesting. I wonder if we'll see any Ontario kids who have NCAA commitments do this soon
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That is sort of what I was speculating on. Would any players leave their BCHL or USHL programs at Christmas and sign with their OHL team in the 2nd half of the seaosn.
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And another one...
Does anyone still think this will be a bad thing for the CHL?
Does anyone still think this will be a bad thing for the CHL?
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100% good for the CHL. No doubt about it. I think we will start seeing players signing during the holiday break and suiting up in January. It will be interesting to see if Malhotra reports to Brantford and Valentini reports to Kitchener in January.
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And those are just the 1st round picks.
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I think this rule change favour both leagues equally, I think for younger players there is no better place than the CHL, with exception to the USNTDP.
As players age out I think you would see more higher end players go the NCAA route rather than the ECHL or other minor pro.
I could see the CHL get a bit younger with more 18/19 year olds leaving for college who then can complete a bachelor’s prior to going pro.
I’m all for more choice and options for young players.
As players age out I think you would see more higher end players go the NCAA route rather than the ECHL or other minor pro.
I could see the CHL get a bit younger with more 18/19 year olds leaving for college who then can complete a bachelor’s prior to going pro.
I’m all for more choice and options for young players.
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The one thing I wonder about is increasing the number of underage players. In theory if the league does get a lot more high end 16 year olds coming into league maybe it would be good to increase the underage to 4 players? Not related to this topic but I would also have goalies not count towards the underage or overage rule.
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Some people just love to spook themselves into a panic about the NCAA boogeyman.
For a teenager with aspirations of playing in the NHL, the CHL is the best route to prepare them. Always has been, always will be.
Playing with a bunch of 25 year old burn-outs who aren’t even good enough to play in the ECHL is a last resort for players who either aren’t good enough to cut it in the CHL or have aged out and are just looking to keep playing at a level above beer league.
For a teenager with aspirations of playing in the NHL, the CHL is the best route to prepare them. Always has been, always will be.
Playing with a bunch of 25 year old burn-outs who aren’t even good enough to play in the ECHL is a last resort for players who either aren’t good enough to cut it in the CHL or have aged out and are just looking to keep playing at a level above beer league.
And that would weaken the quality of hockey in the CHL.
I think this is a positive thing for the players but will not be beneficial to the CHL or their fans.
Does that include the 236 NHL drafted players that played in the NCAA last year? Or the 22 NCAA players who played on the U.S World Junior team last year?
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It's hard to say but I could see around 20. But I also see some 18 and 19 year old's leaving.
How many players debate whether they are going the CHL or NCAA route before signing in the CHL. Many sign in the CHL because the option of playing Tier 2 Jr. A for two seasons doesn't appeal to them. Now those players can sign in the CHL and then bolt to the NCAA at 18 or 19. Best of both worlds for them.
The NCAA has no draft. It's essentially a free for all when it comes to recruiting. Do you not think these schools will hire additional scouts who will scout OHL players and make a pitch for them to come to their school?
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The majority of NHL drafted picks playing in the NCAA were afterthoughts taken in the 6th and 7th round. In other words, future ECHL roster filler.
Here is a video showing the dressing room for the North Dakota hockey team:
This dressing room is not even in the same category as OHL dressing rooms. NCAA schools treat their players like royalty. Do you honestly think that players in the CHL would not be tempted to leave the OHL for North Dakota? You can bet their scouts will be looking to recruit the best of the OHL.
This dressing room is not even in the same category as OHL dressing rooms. NCAA schools treat their players like royalty. Do you honestly think that players in the CHL would not be tempted to leave the OHL for North Dakota? You can bet their scouts will be looking to recruit the best of the OHL.
242 former NCAA hockey players were on 2024 NHL Opening Night rosters. I'm beginning to think you don't know much about NCAA hockey. Here is the complete list: NHL rosters loaded with college hockey talent - Lets Play Hockey
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Players just don’t join the CHL because they don’t want to play tier 2 junior for a few years. The education package has benefits.
1) you’re not committed to a particular school Not a lot of 16, 17 or 18 olds know what they want to do for the rest of their lives. If I commit to Boston University that’s great but what major am I taking? What if they have no programs that suit my interest or skills? A university degree is not a guaranteed ticket for success. Going to school for four years and getting a degree that has no value to you is not a good use of your education.
2) the CHL education can be used for anything. So let’s say besides being a hockey player the other career would be a trade such as electrician, plumber or auto mechanic. Your OHL education package can be used at trade schools or public colleges that provide that education. Not everyone wants to go to university.
3) what happens if I get injured before I start school? Does the team still get me a scholarship or do they de-commit to me
I think the great thing about the CHL system is that it does give you more time to decide what you want to do should you not be playing hockey. And it gives you more options on what to use it for
Unless you are super elite like a John Tavares, Stamkos or McDavid, I don’t think going to the CHL just to not play Tier 2 is a good reason. You just never know how your game will translate to the next level. Players that are amazing at AAA don’t always make it in the CHL of NCAA. And players that are amazing in CHL or NCAA don’t always make it to the NHL. I would think most players are making their decision based on what is best for them should they not make it in Pro hockey.
