Totally dude. The Habs rebuild is complete after the Eichel-like haul they are going to get for a half season of Chiarot
LeBrun: Chiarot likely to be dealt and return a 1st round pick
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Pagnotta: A lot of teams will be calling about Ben Chariot
Dave Pagnotta
"The price I'm hearing right now is a first round pick and a plus "
"a pick between 20-32 and a plus (suggests a 4th or a prospect), the plus will be based on if the habs retain"
Dave Pagnotta
"The price I'm hearing right now is a first round pick and a plus "
"a pick between 20-32 and a plus (suggests a 4th or a prospect), the plus will be based on if the habs retain"
Kimota
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He's pretty different. He's been on our number one pairing, as shutdown pair with Weber for the next few years. When Bergevin was fired, he thanked him for giving him a chance to become a more important player and it improved his game. Last year he had more issues though(but he got better in the playoffs).
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Savard got a 1st and 3rd last year and Chiarot is twice the player Savard is
Now that is still not saying much but there’s market precedence
Now that is still not saying much but there’s market precedence
HabsQC
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He just said Chiarot's value went up. No one talked about the end of the rebuild nor said this was going to be an Eichel-like haul. Go be unpleasant elsewhere.
Whatever team gets him will be very very happy, great playoff D
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If Chiarot is getting a 1st round pick, If the Ducks can't sign Lindholm I guess we getting 3 1st round picks for him... Nice!!
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Chiarot is a legit top 4D at this stage of his career. Lindholm is top pairing quality. Is that 3 times more value?
To be honest, I think you "could" get a 1st and a prospect for Lindholm if he was available. But who's the say Chiarot gets a 1st for sure. I think it's a possibility but there are no guarantees
Lindholm > Chiarot.
* Interesting to note that there is 3 pts in the difference with Chiarot having more goals this year.
* Corsi about the same with Chiarot getting a substantial amount more D zone starts.
End result: Lindholm is not worth 3 times more than Chiarot.
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All they did was beat 3 legit playoff contenders. Go ahead and pretend they weren't a good team.
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I bet you also said they’d get crushed in the first round huh
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That's cool and all but Lindholm is one of the most underrated players in the entire NHL. He is playing with a 19 year old andChiarot is a legit top 4D at this stage of his career. Lindholm is top pairing quality. Is that 3 times more value?
To be honest, I think you "could" get a 1st and a prospect for Lindholm if he was available. But who's the say Chiarot gets a 1st for sure. I think it's a possibility but there are no guarantees
Lindholm > Chiarot.
* Interesting to note that there is 3 pts in the difference with Chiarot having more goals this year.
* Corsi about the same with Chiarot getting a substantial amount more D zone starts.
End result: Lindholm is not worth 3 times more than Chiarot.
He won't get 3 firsts as a rental, no one ever has I was obviously joking but he is way way way more valuable than Chiarot.
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And very happy a different team didn't have him is a big thing too.
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Who care what Lindholm can fetch. This is not about him but about Chiarot and what NHL GMs are willing to give for him.
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Quite possible.
I could see him go for a high-end prospect and a 2nd to a team planning on signing him, I'd try and make the 2nd become a 1st if the team wins a Cup, but that's just me.
And retention has a huge bonus of making his cap hit accessible to most teams, even more if we can take an expiring contract back. This means a lot of bidders, so better odds of getting the deal we want.
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As a habs fan I agree.
The canadian division was a joke. The fact we even had 7 teams only made us advance to the playoffs because we would have been out of the playoffs with 8 teams. 11 overtime lost were brutal.
Habs werent good at all during the regular season and mostly feed on overtime lost and early season vancouver to make playoffs by losing twice in OT in the last 2 games of the season.
Playoffs are Carey Price mostly once again
as for Chariot issue. at 50% he gets easily a 1st pick with the mentality of those GMs.
Honestly, Savard returned what he did last year because it was a seller's market and the list of available D-men was limited.
You can't really base value off of previous year's deadline unless the quantity and quality of available D-men is identical, which it never is.
Chiarot's value should be based on how many sellers there are at the deadline, and the quality of other defensemen that are on the block, not on what Savard got last season.
Sounds about right.
It depends who’s available at the deadline and if there is a bidding war.
if a few teams have injuries or like to add more depth before the playoffs they will put bid. It’s supply and demands.
Tatar did get a 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
At minimum Chariot will get a first and a prospect and the maximum someone will give a 1st, 2nd and prospect.
True, but Tatar was 3 years younger and still had 3 and a half years of term left on his contract, and that trade was not generally seen as good value.
Chiarot is going to be a 31 year old UFA rental. Unless Montreal is taking back a cap dump with term, I don't think he returns a first. We will eventually see I suppose.
True, but Tatar was 3 years younger and still had 3 and a half years of term left on his contract, and that trade was not generally seen as good value.
Chiarot is going to be a 31 year old UFA rental. Unless Montreal is taking back a cap dump with term, I don't think he returns a first. We will eventually see I suppose.
from what I can tell Chariot is that typical playoff defensive defenseman a contender wants.
he’s big 6’4” 220, skates very well, can play a shut down role, kills penalties and produce I think he’s got 5-6 goals which is top 5 goals for defensemen. There’s not many players like him available at the deadline. Teams rather pay than play against him.
for the sake of value I give an example. NYR would love to add Chariot to play with Fox. Most likely a first round pick, and maybe a prospect like Zac Jones. Maybe a conditional pick of Chariot resigns. Something along that line.
Get ready to get flamed from Bern
For me, Chiarot feels like the typical 2 2nds candidate.
But like we said before, it is really going to depend on what else is available that will ultimately dictate the value of rentals this season.
The problem with expecting a first is that several teams have already moved their firsts for 2022, and the teams that are holding them are not going to be interested in moving them for rentals. I don't expect more than 4 firsts to move this deadline, and a couple of those are likely going to go for forwards. Then add the fact that there will likely be several UFA D men available, and I don't really expect values to be as high as they have been in the past.
