Confirmed Trade: [CHI/VGK] Marc-Andre Fleury to Chicago for Mikael Hakkarainen

[CanadianCoyote]

Kind of feel like we're glossing over Hakkarainnen tho

A 23-year old center who has a whopping 5 points in 23 games during his stints with the Fuel and IceHogs? What's there to not gloss over here?

 

[uncleben]

Thats "over reach" guessing/contingency plan

MAF is not giving up 7m. He just doesnt want to locate to mid/east coast from the sounds of it

The reports are there were hold ups in negotiation though bc CHI knew Fleury didn't want to report east
He may not want to give up his $6M owed this year, but barring another trade, his options are report, retire, or don't report and be suspended by the team and not get paid anyway

Nothing lost for CHI if Fleury doesn't go (in fact, contract slot gained if they want to use it in free agency), but VGK definitely just got out of a huge caphit for free* (*they lost a good goalie) in a flat cap offseason where others are paying to move pieces and their back was against the wall. CHI probably could/should have played a little more hardball (according to this speculating armchair GM )

 

[HyperX]

Hockey players live on the road for most of the season. It's not like he's taking his kids to school or coaching them in Hockey during the season.

Yes he will see them less but 6MM is too much to walk away from for an 8-10 month commitment.

Maybe not when youve made 50m+ already

 

[rocketdan9]

The reports are there were hold ups in negotiation though bc CHI knew Fleury didn't want to report east
He may not want to give up his $6M owed this year, but barring another trade, his options are report, retire, or don't report and be suspended by the team and not get paid anyway

Nothing lost for CHI if Fleury doesn't go (in fact, contract slot gained if they want to use it in free agency), but VGK definitely just got out of a huge caphit for free* (*they lost a good goalie) in a flat cap offseason where others are paying to move pieces and their back was against the wall. CHI probably should/could have played a little more hardball (according to this speculating armchair GM )

I agree

The return itself is a joke. Hawks wanted a good goalie and Vegas wanted out of paying 7m. That was the main draw

I would be surprised to see MAF retire and give up 7m.

 

[CupInSIX]

A 23-year old center who has a whopping 5 points in his stints with the Fuel and IceHogs? What's there to not gloss over here?

Well

What's his favorite song? What does he like for breakfast?
I really miss Pierre McGuire

 

[Zirakzigil]

Interesting. Hawks get a great goalie fir nothing, Knights take back no salary. Guess that was more important to them than the return.

 

[beowulf]

Is Hakkarainen injury prone or are there other reasons has only played 11 and 12 games in each of the last 2 seasons in the ECHL and AHL combined?

 

[PhysicalGraffiti]

Well

What's his favorite song? What does he like for breakfast?
I really miss Pierre McGuire

More importantly, who was his grade 5 teacher?

 

[uncleben]

I agree

The return itself is a joke. Hawks wanted a good goalie and Vegas wanted out of paying 7m. That was the main draw

I would be surprised to see MAF retire and give up 7m.

$6M owed next year*, but he has ~$75M career earnings (before dues and sharing and taxes)
If he's invested and is living well, there can be some incentive to not leave or uproot his family, and instead settle down and spend time with them

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

His Agent....

Wow. Bold move from Vegas. Stupid though.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

What other "positional award" would you ever see something like this happen? The previous year winner being traded for pretty much nothing.

Adam Fox for future considerations!
Connor McDavid for a 7th round draft pick!

It's all about cap hit and cap space. Price got Montreal to finals and was passed by Seattle.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Well

What's his favorite song? What does he like for breakfast?
I really miss Pierre McGuire

Probably this

 

[SuterHaglshev]

Toews is washed and is carried by Kane

True of Toews he's a 5 million dollar player maybe 6 million if he can do 20G & 30 assists. Big question mark.

Pepsi over coke except when it's cherry coke.

 

[rocketdan9]

$6M owed next year*, but he has ~$75M career earnings (before dues and sharing and taxes)
If he's invested and is living well, there can be some incentive to not leave or uproot his family, and instead settle down and spend time with them

Agreed

But man 6m...

If I was the family... I would tell him to finish it out.

We will see your face everyday for the rest of our lives anyways

 

[Brazen331]

Everyone trashing VGK for not contacting Fleury but did they have a choice?

If they told him about Chicago beforehand, is there any doubt he and Walsh would have done everything in their power to blow everything up?

 

[Super Cake]

Plenty of players get traded without being told.

f***ing Duchene got traded in the middle of a game to the Ottawa Senators.

 

[RobBrown4PM]

That's not how you treat the backbone of your team, oooooof.

Vegas has the "Its Vegas card" (Which I don't understand. 37+ heat every day with almost no rain, under the baking hot sun in a concrete jungle. No thanks!), but they won't be able to rely on that if they treat their players like this.

 

[Unspecified]

So did you watch him in the Kings organization?

Go thing there are these things called metric that completely discount your so called "upward trajectory" statement.

 

[horner]

Fleury will love Chicago and Chicago fans will love him.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Everyone trashing VGK for not contacting Fleury but did they have a choice?

If they told him about Chicago beforehand, is there any doubt he and Walsh would have done everything in their power to blow everything up?

What could they really have done though? I can’t imagine that Chicago is making this trade blind. They’d have to have known this is a possibility, and that’s only reinforced by the return.

 

[Shark Finn]

Who?

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Chicago is great for families I hear, awesome leadership too

 

[SuterHaglshev]

Vegas, probably trades and gets Fleury back at the deadline gets the Blackhawks to retain on Fleury and sends Chicago a 2nd round pick.

This was the handshake agreement that was talked about behind closed doors. Ha-ha

 

[Brazen331]

What could they really have done though? I can’t imagine that Chicago is making this trade blind. They’d have to have known this is a possibility, and that’s only reinforced by the return.

Both Chicago and VGK knew they couldn’t tell him. Now Chicago has a good chance he plays for them.

If VGK says, ‘Hey, MAF we want to trade you to Chicago,’ doesn’t he immediately retire and Vegas is unable to unload his cap hit?

 

[untouchable21]

One would think that Hawks Management did their due diligence on this before completing the trade. They must have talked to him to feel this out first.